---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/06/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:17 AM - Re: M14 on e bay (N395V) 2. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: M14 on e bay (Peter Cattoni) 3. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: M14 on e bay (BPA) 4. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: M14 on e bay (BPA) 5. 10:04 AM - Re: M14 on e bay (N395V) 6. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: M14 on e bay (Cliff Coy) 7. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: M14 on e bay (Peter Cattoni) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:57 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay From: "N395V" jetjockey wrote: A word of caution on the guy selling the M-14. I bid and was the high bidder on two previous auctions that he had on this same engine. He would not respond to my emails after the auction ended either time. Now he is apparently saying that I didn't pay on the first auction (I didn't meet the reserve.) However, I did attempt to contact him to see how much more he wanted. He would not reply or return my phone calls. He also claims his second auction got hijacked. This is not true, at least from my perspective. The auction terminated normally with me as the high bidder. He may be legit but I would be very wary about dealing with him. Ray Stallings I've bought and sold cars, boats, engines, and planes on e bay without a hitch, but it seems M14s on ebay are ripe for scams. Just listed my M14 as a core after a prop strike. Sat with very few bids until the last 5 minutes then in a flurry of activity the bidding went up to a price that < to me, was unreasonably high for an engine that needed at least a teardown and inspection. Several of the interested bidders were from the Yak, M14, and Murphy Moose lists.. The high bidder was a name I did not recognize with a poor feedback record. Alan Davidson (usr_ad is his e bay name) of Chantilly Virginia. He really got innappropriate and of course did not pay. His feedback profile suggested he would behave exactly as he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he (whoever he really is) played a role in the last M14 fiasco on e bay. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167998#167998 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:11 AM PST US From: Peter Cattoni Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay Hi Milt, One really wonders what is going on ! ? This guy is blaming you ????? He says that he won this auction before ?? Unreal that is for sure. Anyway, I could finally talk to my partner Philip early this morning. He seems as happy as I am :o) There was only one thing that made me surprised. I told him that you are getting a quote for the shipping, so that we know the total amount, and he goes : that will be something between 250 and 500 bucks ! I was very surprised, but he said that it would come by truck, and that was what he paid before. ( That was before we even knew each other ) Now I am a bit confused. What we like in regard of shipping, just regular shipping, nothing expedited or express or anything like that........ The engine would be in a wooden box right ? All I ever did was shipping an engine from here to Virginia. An 0-320 in a wooden box. With brokerage fees and all it came below 500 dollars. Now of course there is a big margin between 500 and 2000 bucks :o( Anyway I am looking forward to find out, how much the quote is you will be getting. Have a nice day ! Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay --> jetjockey wrote: A word of caution on the guy selling the M-14. I bid and was the high bidder on two previous auctions that he had on this same engine. He would not respond to my emails after the auction ended either time. Now he is apparently saying that I didn't pay on the first auction (I didn't meet the reserve.) However, I did attempt to contact him to see how much more he wanted. He would not reply or return my phone calls. He also claims his second auction got hijacked. This is not true, at least from my perspective. The auction terminated normally with me as the high bidder. He may be legit but I would be very wary about dealing with him. Ray Stallings I've bought and sold cars, boats, engines, and planes on e bay without a hitch, but it seems M14s on ebay are ripe for scams. Just listed my M14 as a core after a prop strike. Sat with very few bids until the last 5 minutes then in a flurry of activity the bidding went up to a price that < to me, was unreasonably high for an engine that needed at least a teardown and inspection. Several of the interested bidders were from the Yak, M14, and Murphy Moose lists.. The high bidder was a name I did not recognize with a poor feedback record. Alan Davidson (usr_ad is his e bay name) of Chantilly Virginia. He really got innappropriate and of course did not pay. His feedback profile suggested he would behave exactly as he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he (whoever he really is) played a role in the last M14 fiasco on e bay. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167998#167998 __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:26 AM PST US Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay From: "BPA" Hank Avent will be here on the 24th of March (Easter Sunday) late arrival. He said that the medium blue metallic paint will be just fine with him. Sure hope his kit gets here in time!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cattoni Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay Hi Milt, One really wonders what is going on ! ? This guy is blaming you ????? He says that he won this auction before ?? Unreal that is for sure. Anyway, I could finally talk to my partner Philip early this morning. He seems as happy as I am :o) There was only one thing that made me surprised. I told him that you are getting a quote for the shipping, so that we know the total amount, and he goes : that will be something between 250 and 500 bucks ! I was very surprised, but he said that it would come by truck, and that was what he paid before. ( That was before we even knew each other ) Now I am a bit confused. What we like in regard of shipping, just regular shipping, nothing expedited or express or anything like that........ The engine would be in a wooden box right ? All I ever did was shipping an engine from here to Virginia. An 0-320 in a wooden box. With brokerage fees and all it came below 500 dollars. Now of course there is a big margin between 500 and 2000 bucks :o( Anyway I am looking forward to find out, how much the quote is you will be getting. Have a nice day ! Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay --> jetjockey wrote: A word of caution on the guy selling the M-14. I bid and was the high bidder on two previous auctions that he had on this same engine. He would not respond to my emails after the auction ended either time. Now he is apparently saying that I didn't pay on the first auction (I didn't meet the reserve.) However, I did attempt to contact him to see how much more he wanted. He would not reply or return my phone calls. He also claims his second auction got hijacked. This is not true, at least from my perspective. The auction terminated normally with me as the high bidder. He may be legit but I would be very wary about dealing with him. Ray Stallings I've bought and sold cars, boats, engines, and planes on e bay without a hitch, but it seems M14s on ebay are ripe for scams. Just listed my M14 as a core after a prop strike. Sat with very few bids until the last 5 minutes then in a flurry of activity the bidding went up to a price that < to me, was unreasonably high for an engine that needed at least a teardown and inspection. Several of the interested bidders were from the Yak, M14, and Murphy Moose lists.. The high bidder was a name I did not recognize with a poor feedback record. Alan Davidson (usr_ad is his e bay name) of Chantilly Virginia. He really got innappropriate and of course did not pay. His feedback profile suggested he would behave exactly as he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he (whoever he really is) played a role in the last M14 fiasco on e bay. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167998#167998 __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:47 AM PST US Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay From: "BPA" Sorry for the post -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cattoni Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay Hi Milt, One really wonders what is going on ! ? This guy is blaming you ????? He says that he won this auction before ?? Unreal that is for sure. Anyway, I could finally talk to my partner Philip early this morning. He seems as happy as I am :o) There was only one thing that made me surprised. I told him that you are getting a quote for the shipping, so that we know the total amount, and he goes : that will be something between 250 and 500 bucks ! I was very surprised, but he said that it would come by truck, and that was what he paid before. ( That was before we even knew each other ) Now I am a bit confused. What we like in regard of shipping, just regular shipping, nothing expedited or express or anything like that........ The engine would be in a wooden box right ? All I ever did was shipping an engine from here to Virginia. An 0-320 in a wooden box. With brokerage fees and all it came below 500 dollars. Now of course there is a big margin between 500 and 2000 bucks :o( Anyway I am looking forward to find out, how much the quote is you will be getting. Have a nice day ! Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay --> jetjockey wrote: A word of caution on the guy selling the M-14. I bid and was the high bidder on two previous auctions that he had on this same engine. He would not respond to my emails after the auction ended either time. Now he is apparently saying that I didn't pay on the first auction (I didn't meet the reserve.) However, I did attempt to contact him to see how much more he wanted. He would not reply or return my phone calls. He also claims his second auction got hijacked. This is not true, at least from my perspective. The auction terminated normally with me as the high bidder. He may be legit but I would be very wary about dealing with him. Ray Stallings I've bought and sold cars, boats, engines, and planes on e bay without a hitch, but it seems M14s on ebay are ripe for scams. Just listed my M14 as a core after a prop strike. Sat with very few bids until the last 5 minutes then in a flurry of activity the bidding went up to a price that < to me, was unreasonably high for an engine that needed at least a teardown and inspection. Several of the interested bidders were from the Yak, M14, and Murphy Moose lists.. The high bidder was a name I did not recognize with a poor feedback record. Alan Davidson (usr_ad is his e bay name) of Chantilly Virginia. He really got innappropriate and of course did not pay. His feedback profile suggested he would behave exactly as he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he (whoever he really is) played a role in the last M14 fiasco on e bay. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167998#167998 __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:54 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay From: "N395V" Peter, Sent you an e mail with weight and dimensions of engine and crate. Feel free to get an estimate from a Canadian hauler but I don't think $500 would get a toaster oven from here to there. I will start crating it tomorrow and will throw in the Spark plugs at no extra cost. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168061#168061 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:33 AM PST US From: Cliff Coy Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay Peter, We're shipping engines all the time. It's running about $800-$1600 to ship an engine using the proper class (150) A crated M14 is a 5'X5'x5' box at ~850#. Overland trucking costs have almost doubled in the last 8 months. If it's a core engine you can save some money by dropping the class to 85 (engine parts) Cliff Peter Cattoni wrote: > > Hi Milt, > > One really wonders what is going on ! ? This guy is blaming you ????? He > says that he won this auction before ?? Unreal that is for sure. > > Anyway, I could finally talk to my partner Philip early this morning. > He seems as happy as I am :o) > There was only one thing that made me surprised. I told him that you are > getting a quote for the shipping, so that we know the total amount, and > he goes : that will be something between 250 and 500 bucks ! I was very > surprised, but he said that it would come by truck, and that was what he > paid before. ( That was before we even knew each other ) > Now I am a bit confused. What we like in regard of shipping, just > regular shipping, nothing expedited or express or anything like > that........ > The engine would be in a wooden box right ? > All I ever did was shipping an engine from here to Virginia. An 0-320 in > a wooden box. With brokerage fees and all it came below 500 dollars. > Now of course there is a big margin between 500 and 2000 bucks :o( > Anyway I am looking forward to find out, how much the quote is you will > be getting. > > Have a nice day ! > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:16 AM > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay > > > --> > > jetjockey wrote: > A word of caution on the guy selling the M-14. I bid and was the high > bidder on two previous auctions that he had on this same engine. He > would not respond to my emails after the auction ended either time. Now > he is apparently saying that I didn't pay on the first auction (I didn't > meet the reserve.) However, I did attempt to contact him to see how much > more he wanted. He would not reply or return my phone calls. He also > claims his second auction got hijacked. This is not true, at least from > my perspective. The auction terminated normally with me as the high > bidder. > > He may be legit but I would be very wary about dealing with him. > > Ray Stallings > > > I've bought and sold cars, boats, engines, and planes on e bay without a > hitch, but it seems M14s on ebay are ripe for scams. > Just listed my M14 as a core after a prop strike. Sat with very few bids > until the last 5 minutes then in a flurry of activity the bidding went > up to a price that < to me, was unreasonably high for an engine that > needed at least a teardown and inspection. Several of the interested > bidders were from the Yak, M14, and Murphy Moose lists.. The high bidder > was a name I did not recognize with a poor feedback record. Alan > Davidson (usr_ad is his e bay name) of Chantilly Virginia. He really got > innappropriate and of course did not pay. His feedback profile suggested > he would behave exactly as he did. I wouldn't be surprised if he > (whoever he really is) played a role in the last M14 fiasco on e bay. > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167998#167998 > > > __________________________________________________ > D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" > http://www.doteasy.com > > > -- Clifford Coy Director of Maintenance Border Air Ltd 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: callto:Cliff.Coy ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:18 PM PST US From: Peter Cattoni Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay Hi Milt, Thank you for your mails. I just got back in and was going true all the mail. I do not think that you are trying something funny ! I am just surprised how expensive the shipping may be. But you where up front about it in your ebay description. I have a meeting tomorrow with my partner ! I could not arrange it earlier, but that is o.k. I will go to the company that shipped my 0-320 to the States, that I will have enough information's on the shipping, and we could arrange all tomorrow. Please stick with your plans to start crating. I also like to thank you for drawing in the spark plugs. It is really appreciated. I got some other emails in regard to the shipping cost, it is not clear who was it that send it and so on. It may be the case, that your shipping company is more expensive than others. One Gentleman suggested to ship it as aircraft engine parts, not as an engine, he gave me the shipping code for it, he stated that it may be cheaper that way. Anyhow I am confident that all will go well and as planed. I can not see any further problems. I will get back to you, tomorrow evening, and let you know, if there is any other question, and how our meeting went. Our meeting starts at 5:00Pm I like the suggestion you made in regards to the checks, the amounts and so on. I will print it all out, so my partner can see first hand, and after he digested the shipping cost, all will be o.k. We will send you the checks by courier. Yes, you sending the log by mail is also a good idea. For now that is it, I think all is clear, by tomorrow we should know if we are hiring a company from our end, for the shipping job. I hope that I did not forget something. If there is something important from your end, you got my home phone and my cell, just in case. Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14 on e bay --> Peter, Sent you an e mail with weight and dimensions of engine and crate. Feel free to get an estimate from a Canadian hauler but I don't think $500 would get a toaster oven from here to there. I will start crating it tomorrow and will throw in the Spark plugs at no extra cost. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=168061#168061 __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message m14pengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/M14PEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/m14pengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/m14pengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.