---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/30/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:17 AM - Re: Tack generator (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 01:46 PM - Re: Tack generator (Eddie Moran) 3. 04:28 PM - Re: Tack generator (Yak Pilot) 4. 06:16 PM - Re: Tack generator (Peter Cattoni) 5. 06:18 PM - Re: Tack generator (Peter Cattoni) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:42 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator See attached. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator I have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also where is a good place to mount the water separator. :? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221737#221737 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:06 PM PST US From: Eddie Moran Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator To all, I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George, Doug, etc. are an invalua ble asset to us.- I could NOT have installed my M14 into my Moose without them. If you have not contributed to Matronics then you need too. Eddie --- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Savarese wrot e: From: A. Dennis Savarese Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator See attached. Dennis - ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator ca> I- have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also- where is a good place- to mount the water separator.- :? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221737#221737 http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous ;--------------------- -Matt Dralle, List nbsp;------ Features Chat, http://www.mnbsp;----- via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _============= =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:21 PM PST US From: Yak Pilot Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator Just a word of caution.- If the original thread on mount for the tach gen erator is still there, no problem.- It's easy to install.- If the outer plate had been removed, be very cautious.- If you remove the wrong plate at that tach gen attachment point, you can disturb the air start distribut or timing which is one of the worst things to get working again on the enti re aircraft.- Ask me how I learned all about THAT.- That's the big gree n thing with all those metal lines attached in the photo.- Just looking a t that monster makes me cringe.- =0A=0ASecond, the tach generator cannon plug.- Most problems with incorrect reading tach's is because of a broken wire in this plug.- They break VERY easily.- The wire is brittle and t he solder flux the Russians use corrodes much easier than does our stuff. - =0A=0ALastly, these three wires in the tach gen plug are shielded.- I f the shield wire to this plug breaks, or if the shield is not connected pr operly, the noise from the tach generator can become so extreme that it wil l actually damage a stock Russian radio.- Hard to believe, but I saw it h appen with my own eyes.- I also fixed the radio.- The first stage broad band amplifier transistor shorted base to collector.- Now THAT is seriou s noise!- =0A=0AJust thought I would pass along lessons regarding this li ttle device that I had to learn about the hard way.- =0A=0AMark Bitterlic h=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Eddie Moran =0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesd ay, December 30, 2008 4:45:06 PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack gene rator=0A=0A=0ATo all,=0A=0AI tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George , Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us.- I could NOT have installed m y M14 into my Moose without them.=0A=0AIf you have not contributed to Matro nics then you need too.=0A=0AEddie=0A=0A--- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Sav arese wrote:=0A=0AFrom: A. Dennis Savarese =0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator =0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ADate: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9 :16 AM=0A=0A=0ASee attached.=0ADennis=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A From: HBaker =0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, Decembe r 29, 2008 7:28 PM=0ASubject: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator=0A--> M14PEn gines-List message posted by: "HBaker" =0A=0AI - have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out wher e it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also - where is a good place- to mount the water separator.- :?=0A=0A----- ---=0ACurrently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v iewtopic.php?p=221737#221737=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous ;------------------ --- -Matt Dralle, List nbsp;------ Features Chat, http:// www.mnbsp;----- via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com=0A_============== =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:07 PM PST US From: "Peter Cattoni" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator Hi Mark, We are building a Moose. In Kelowna BC Canada. As soon as we get the engine mount from Murphy, we will hang the engine. I would like to ask you for your private e-mail address, so that I could contact you off list. Thank you so much ! Peter Cattoni -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Yak Pilot Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator Just a word of caution. If the original thread on mount for the tach generator is still there, no problem. It's easy to install. If the outer plate had been removed, be very cautious. If you remove the wrong plate at that tach gen attachment point, you can disturb the air start distributor timing which is one of the worst things to get working again on the entire aircraft. Ask me how I learned all about THAT. That's the big green thing with all those metal lines attached in the photo. Just looking at that monster makes me cringe. Second, the tach generator cannon plug. Most problems with incorrect reading tach's is because of a broken wire in this plug. They break VERY easily. The wire is brittle and the solder flux the Russians use corrodes much easier than does our stuff. Lastly, these three wires in the tach gen plug are shielded. If the shield wire to this plug breaks, or if the shield is not connected properly, the noise from the tach generator can become so extreme that it will actually damage a stock Russian radio. Hard to believe, but I saw it happen with my own eyes. I also fixed the radio. The first stage broad band amplifier transistor shorted base to collector. Now THAT is serious noise! Just thought I would pass along lessons regarding this little device that I had to learn about the hard way. Mark Bitterlich _____ From: Eddie Moran Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:45:06 PM Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator To all, I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George, Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us. I could NOT have installed my M14 into my Moose without them. If you have not contributed to Matronics then you need too. Eddie --- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator See attached. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator I have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also where is a good place to mount the water separator. :? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221737#221737 http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== _______________________________________________________________ Pre-Boxing Day Domain Sales: Hosting + Domain = US$4.95/year Offer Ends: Dec 31, 2008. http://www.doteasypromo.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:22 PM PST US From: "Peter Cattoni" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator Thank you Eddie. We are just getting to that stage ( engine installation M14PF ) ! Your post is very helpful to us, because we know now whom to ask. Happy New Year to all ! Regards, Peter Cattoni -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Moran Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator To all, I tell you what, guys like Dennis, Steve, George, Doug, etc. are an invaluable asset to us. I could NOT have installed my M14 into my Moose without them. If you have not contributed to Matronics then you need too. Eddie --- On Tue, 12/30/08, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator See attached. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Tack generator I have just bought a tack generator, for the M14 but cannot find out where it goes, must be another adapter or something, any one have a pic, also where is a good place to mount the water separator. :? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=221737#221737 http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous ; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.mnbsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _============= 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== 3D======================= 3D=========== _______________________________________________________________ Pre-Boxing Day Domain Sales: Hosting + Domain = US$4.95/year Offer Ends: Dec 31, 2008. http://www.doteasypromo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message m14pengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/M14PEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/m14pengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/m14pengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.