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1. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
2. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Wesley Warner)
3. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Parts for sale (Eddie Moran)
5. 02:39 PM - Eddie's Moose (DAVID STROUD)
6. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Parts for sale (Peter Cattoni)
7. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: Parts for sale (DAVID STROUD)
8. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: Parts for sale (Peter Cattoni)
9. 06:48 PM - Re: Parts for sale (HBaker)
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Henry, the ones that the Yaks and CJ's use are adjustable. SUPPOSEDLY
they are set up from the factory to break at 50 atmos, and the ones Doug
Sapp sells are like that. However, even if you buy one new, it is going
to change over time, so you might as well get used to the idea of having
to adjust it. My opinion on the matter... And there is an alternative.
You can use ANY pressure relief valve that is set to release at 735 PSI
plus or minus a tad. I saw one on Sergei Boriak's old SU-31 that was
really slick. I remember looking it up by the part number, and tracing
it down to the people who made it. I wanted one for my own airplane!
That was until I saw that the price was about $800 for that stainless
steel jewel! So, I stayed with the cheaper stuff... But still...
They're out there and they are a lot better than what comes in the Yak's
and CJ's now. The one I saw was adjustable from 700-900 PSI and held a
setting to within 5 PSI, and had a pull release ring on it to bleed the
system down. Pretty cool. If you have the money, I would recommend
looking into something like that.
As for a gage... My input would be to just plumb everything with
standard AN fittings everywhere possible and stay away from, or convert
over from, metric. To that end, a standard pressure gage in PSI would
be just fine. Just look for something say from the 0-1000 psi range.
Mark Bitterlich
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 21:03
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Pressure relief valve
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Thanks guys
Does anyone know where I can buy one that is already set at 50
atmospheres? And a Gauge that will fit in the dash?
Henry
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Guys,
I replaced my entire air system quite a while ago and have since
sold the plane. I used brand new stainless valves that were approx.
$120ea. They came with no spring. There was a spring selection chart
based on the pressure you want. I don't recall the details off-hand,
and I'm out of town. However, if anyone want's this info I can look
it up when I return home (I should have all the receipts).
Wes
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>
> Henry, the ones that the Yaks and CJ's use are adjustable. SUPPOSEDLY
> they are set up from the factory to break at 50 atmos, and the ones Doug
> Sapp sells are like that. However, even if you buy one new, it is going
> to change over time, so you might as well get used to the idea of having
> to adjust it. My opinion on the matter... And there is an alternative.
> You can use ANY pressure relief valve that is set to release at 735 PSI
> plus or minus a tad. I saw one on Sergei Boriak's old SU-31 that was
> really slick. I remember looking it up by the part number, and tracing
> it down to the people who made it. I wanted one for my own airplane!
> That was until I saw that the price was about $800 for that stainless
> steel jewel! So, I stayed with the cheaper stuff... But still...
> They're out there and they are a lot better than what comes in the Yak's
> and CJ's now. The one I saw was adjustable from 700-900 PSI and held a
> setting to within 5 PSI, and had a pull release ring on it to bleed the
> system down. Pretty cool. If you have the money, I would recommend
> looking into something like that.
>
> As for a gage... My input would be to just plumb everything with
> standard AN fittings everywhere possible and stay away from, or convert
> over from, metric. To that end, a standard pressure gage in PSI would
> be just fine. Just look for something say from the 0-1000 psi range.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Wes, could you possibly give me a reference on the relief valve you
used? I
am VERY VERY interested! (BIG TIME) I really am tired of messing with
the
Russian stuff.
Mark
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wesley
Warner
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:51
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Pressure relief valve
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Guys,
I replaced my entire air system quite a while ago and have since sold
the
plane. I used brand new stainless valves that were approx.
$120ea. They came with no spring. There was a spring selection chart
based
on the pressure you want. I don't recall the details off-hand, and I'm
out
of town. However, if anyone want's this info I can look it up when I
return
home (I should have all the receipts).
Wes
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point,
MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> --> Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Henry, the ones that the Yaks and -CJ's use are adjustable. -
> SUPPOSEDLY they are set up from the factory to break at 50 atmos, and
> the ones Doug Sapp sells are like that. -However, even if you buy
one
> new, it is going to change over time, so you might as well get used to
> the idea of having to adjust it. -My opinion on the matter... And
there is
an alternative.
> You can use ANY pressure relief valve that is set to release at 735
> PSI plus or minus a tad. -I saw one on Sergei Boriak's old SU-31
that
> was really slick. -I remember looking it up by the part number, and
> tracing it down to the people who made it. -I wanted one for my own
airplane!
> That was until I saw that the price was about $800 for that stainless
> steel jewel! -So, I stayed with the cheaper stuff... But still...
> They're out there and they are a lot better than what comes in the
> Yak's and CJ's now. -The one I saw was adjustable from 700-900 PSI
and
> held a setting to within 5 PSI, and had a pull release ring on it to
> bleed the system down. -Pretty cool. -If you have the money, I
would
> recommend looking into something like that.
>
> As for a gage... My input would be to just plumb everything with
> standard AN fittings everywhere possible and stay away from, or
> convert over from, metric. -To that end, a standard pressure gage in
> PSI would be just fine. -Just look for something say from the 0-1000
psi
range.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
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| Subject: | Re: Parts for sale |
Henry, Hi.....- Exciting to hear of another Moose being built.
I have a set of smoked bubble windows.
Eddie Moran.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
ca>
Hi Doug
Small world , I had bought a aluminum cowl from Dan Horton, he is great to
deal with. That will be fine, send the part and I'll send you the check wha
t ever is best for you. I could even wire you the money if you want.
Thanks again
Henry
Moose 294
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Giday, Eddie. Did you install a fuel debubbler device on your Moose ? If
so,
could you please say what type and the source of it ? Thanks....
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
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| Subject: | Re: Parts for sale |
Hi Eddie,
I am an other Moose builder. A friend of mine and I are working together
. We are in Kelowna BC , Day after tomorrow, we start with the engine
installation .
It is nice to know, that other builders are around for help . Murphy is
not the best source for information's anymore .
Would you mind, giving me your mail address , so that I could contact
you of the web ? That would be awesome . Where are you living ?
Are you already flying ? If yes, what engine - propeller combination did
you go with ?
We are right at the state to choose the propeller . We got a westernized
M14PF , that is the one which is supposed to put 400 HP out.
I would love to hear from you,
Have a great day,
With Regards,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eddie
Moran
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Henry, Hi..... Exciting to hear of another Moose being built.
I have a set of smoked bubble windows.
Eddie Moran.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Hi Doug
Small world , I had bought a aluminum cowl from Dan Horton, he is great
to deal with. That will be fine, send the part and I'll send you the
check what ever is best for you. I could even wire you the money if you
want.
Thanks again
Henry
Moose 294
--------
Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236964#236964
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| Subject: | Re: Parts for sale |
MessagePeter....can you offer advice on the fuel debubbler ? Is it just
a stock thing on a certified
Yak or Nanchang and not used on the homebuilt end of things ? Thanks...
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Cattoni
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Hi Eddie,
I am an other Moose builder. A friend of mine and I are working
together . We are in Kelowna BC , Day after tomorrow, we start with the
engine installation .
It is nice to know, that other builders are around for help . Murphy
is not the best source for information's anymore .
Would you mind, giving me your mail address , so that I could contact
you of the web ? That would be awesome . Where are you living ?
Are you already flying ? If yes, what engine - propeller combination
did you go with ?
We are right at the state to choose the propeller . We got a
westernized M14PF , that is the one which is supposed to put 400 HP out.
I would love to hear from you,
Have a great day,
With Regards,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eddie
Moran
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Henry, Hi..... Exciting to hear of another Moose being built.
I have a set of smoked bubble windows.
Eddie Moran.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
wrote:
From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 9:15 PM
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Hi Doug
Small world , I had bought a aluminum cowl from Dan Horton,
he is great to deal with. That will be fine, send the part and I'll send
you the check what ever is best for you. I could even wire you the money
if you want.
Thanks again
Henry
Moose 294
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appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Parts for sale |
Hi David,
I am sorry, can not help you there .
Regards, Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID
STROUD
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Peter....can you offer advice on the fuel debubbler ? Is it just a stock
thing on a certified
Yak or Nanchang and not used on the homebuilt end of things ? Thanks...
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter <mailto:cattoni@glastar.ca> Cattoni
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Hi Eddie,
I am an other Moose builder. A friend of mine and I are working together
. We are in Kelowna BC , Day after tomorrow, we start with the engine
installation .
It is nice to know, that other builders are around for help . Murphy is
not the best source for information's anymore .
Would you mind, giving me your mail address , so that I could contact
you of the web ? That would be awesome . Where are you living ?
Are you already flying ? If yes, what engine - propeller combination did
you go with ?
We are right at the state to choose the propeller . We got a westernized
M14PF , that is the one which is supposed to put 400 HP out.
I would love to hear from you,
Have a great day,
With Regards,
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eddie
Moran
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
Henry, Hi..... Exciting to hear of another Moose being built.
I have a set of smoked bubble windows.
Eddie Moran.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Parts for sale
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Hi Doug
Small world , I had bought a aluminum cowl from Dan Horton, he is great
to deal with. That will be fine, send the part and I'll send you the
check what ever is best for you. I could even wire you the money if you
want.
Thanks again
Henry
Moose 294
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| Subject: | Re: Parts for sale |
Hi Guys
If It wasn't for the guys who put the pics on the website, Go fly a Moose I
would have been lost , as I am from Newfoundland Canada and there isn't any other
moose projects I can go look at, and we all know that a picture is worth
a thousand words!! I Have started 3 years ago and feel like I Know you all
personally, Well at least Your Moose projects! Maybe we can get some updates
or more moose projects.
Ed I have already installed the windows, but I will keep you in mind.
Thanks ever so much!
Henry
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