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1. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Wesley Warner)
2. 11:56 AM - Re: Pressure relief valve (mikspin)
3. 12:10 PM - Re: Eddie's Moose (DAVID STROUD)
4. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Wesley Warner)
5. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Pressure relief valve (Eddie Moran)
6. 06:43 PM - Re: Eddie's Moose (Edwin L (Ted) French)
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Mark,
It looks like I gave all the paperwork to the buyer of my old plane.
However, using my marginal memory, I located the valve...
http://hylokusa.thomasnet.com/item/rv-series-relief-valves/relief-valve/pn-5069?&plpver=10&assetid=g1001
In case the link doesn't work, it's a Hy-Lok RV2MF-4N with the Yellow
spring. (It might have been the purple spring run all the way out.
I'll try to find out for sure.)
(Disclaimer) I would verify with the distributor the correct pressure
range etc... before ordering.
I used two of them on a Yak 55M and had great success.
Let me know if I can help with anything else.
Wes
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> Wes, could you possibly give me a reference on the relief valve you used? I
> am VERY VERY interested! (BIG TIME) I really am tired of messing with the
> Russian stuff.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wesley
> Warner
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:51
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Pressure relief valve
>
> --> <warner.wesley@gmail.com>
>
> Guys,
> I replaced my entire air system quite a while ago and have since sold the
> plane. I used brand new stainless valves that were approx.
> $120ea. They came with no spring. There was a spring selection chart based
> on the pressure you want. I don't recall the details off-hand, and I'm out
> of town. However, if anyone want's this info I can look it up when I return
> home (I should have all the receipts).
>
> Wes
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
> MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>> --> Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Henry, the ones that the Yaks and CJ's use are adjustable.
>> SUPPOSEDLY they are set up from the factory to break at 50 atmos, and
>> the ones Doug Sapp sells are like that. However, even if you buy one
>> new, it is going to change over time, so you might as well get used to
>> the idea of having to adjust it. My opinion on the matter... And there is
> an alternative.
>> You can use ANY pressure relief valve that is set to release at 735
>> PSI plus or minus a tad. I saw one on Sergei Boriak's old SU-31 that
>> was really slick. I remember looking it up by the part number, and
>> tracing it down to the people who made it. I wanted one for my own
> airplane!
>> That was until I saw that the price was about $800 for that stainless
>> steel jewel! So, I stayed with the cheaper stuff... But still...
>> They're out there and they are a lot better than what comes in the
>> Yak's and CJ's now. The one I saw was adjustable from 700-900 PSI and
>> held a setting to within 5 PSI, and had a pull release ring on it to
>> bleed the system down. Pretty cool. If you have the money, I would
>> recommend looking into something like that.
>>
>> As for a gage... My input would be to just plumb everything with
>> standard AN fittings everywhere possible and stay away from, or
>> convert over from, metric. To that end, a standard pressure gage in
>> PSI would be just fine. Just look for something say from the 0-1000 psi
> range.
>>
>> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> List
> 7-Day
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Henry,
Are you using the original Russian relief valve? Kimball's setup? (which is a readily
available Parker brand valve), another setup per the Moose community?
Don't mean to pry, but the Parker stuff allows for a different way of relief than
the Russian stuff or the type of valve Wes has shown (which I think is pretty
slick in itself).
Don't mean to bury you with extraneous data, but I've found some other options
from some valve manufacturers (in stainless with your choice of standard pipe
threaded inlet sizes and cfm ratings, 12 or 24V); a couple brands are Sejn and
Noshok.
The operational mode of these valves could be for relief, unloading for the compressor,
or a combination of both.
Mike Hastings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237407#237407
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| Subject: | Re: Eddie's Moose |
Giday, Ted. The Yak has a de-bubbler on the firewall. It is a small
sphereical item which takes any air out of the fuel system
before it heads off to the filter and carb. I am building a Fairchild 51
replica using the Huosai engine from a Nanchang and
look to the Yak list for any info I can get along the way. The Moose
builders are usually ahead of me so I was wondering
if any were using one. It may not be necessary on a plane that will not
fly inverted and that's a position I will not get into
on purpose anyway. More knowledgable members could confirm it's benefits
on a non stock application like ours.
David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 replica
under construction C-FYXV
----- Original Message -----
From: Edwin L (Ted) French
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Eddie's Moose
I'm helping to build a Moose with the M14. I just have to ask.....
what is a fuel debubbler and what is it used for.
Thanks
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
Mike,
Just an FYI. The valves I used were for emergency pressure relief
only. I also had an, "Unload" valve that I would open after the
pressure built back up after a start.
Wes
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:54 PM, mikspin <acromike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Henry,
>
> Are you using the original Russian relief valve? Kimball's setup? (which is a
readily available Parker brand valve), another setup per the Moose community?
>
> Don't mean to pry, but the Parker stuff allows for a different way of relief
than the Russian stuff or the type of valve Wes has shown (which I think is pretty
slick in itself).
>
> Don't mean to bury you with extraneous data, but I've found some other options
from some valve manufacturers (in stainless with your choice of standard pipe
threaded inlet sizes and cfm ratings, 12 or 24V); a couple brands are Sejn and
Noshok.
>
> The operational mode of these valves could be for relief, unloading for the compressor,
or a combination of both.
>
> Mike Hastings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237407#237407
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure relief valve |
I think Doug Sapp of Omak, WA. has a great air system.- I am extremely-
happy with it.
Eddie
--- On Thu, 4/2/09, mikspin <acromike@gmail.com> wrote:
From: mikspin <acromike@gmail.com>
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Pressure relief valve
Henry,
Are you using the original Russian relief valve? Kimball's setup? (which is
a readily available Parker brand valve), another setup per the Moose commu
nity?
Don't mean to pry, but the Parker stuff allows for a different way of relie
f than the Russian stuff or the type of valve Wes has shown (which I think
is pretty slick in itself).
Don't mean to bury you with extraneous data, but I've found some other opti
ons from some valve manufacturers (in stainless with your choice of standar
d pipe threaded inlet sizes and cfm ratings, 12 or 24V); a couple brands ar
e- Sejn and Noshok.
The operational mode of these valves could be for relief, unloading for the
compressor, or a combination of both.
Mike Hastings
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237407#237407
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| Subject: | Re: Eddie's Moose |
Thanks guys.
Ted
On 2-Apr-09, at 12:08 PM, DAVID STROUD wrote:
> Giday, Ted. The Yak has a de-bubbler on the firewall. It is a small
> sphereical item which takes any air out of the fuel system
> before it heads off to the filter and carb. I am building a
> Fairchild 51 replica using the Huosai engine from a Nanchang and
> look to the Yak list for any info I can get along the way. The Moose
> builders are usually ahead of me so I was wondering
> if any were using one. It may not be necessary on a plane that will
> not fly inverted and that's a position I will not get into
> on purpose anyway. More knowledgable members could confirm it's
> benefits on a non stock application like ours.
>
> David Stroud Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 replica
> under construction C-FYXV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edwin L (Ted) French
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Eddie's Moose
>
> I'm helping to build a Moose with the M14. I just have to ask.....
> what is a fuel debubbler and what is it used for.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>
>
> > under construction C-FYXV
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> - Release Date: 04/01/09 06:06:00
>
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