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1. 03:05 PM - Re: Looking for parts (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
2. 03:07 PM - Re: Noisy fuel pump (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
3. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Manifold Drain Lines (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 06:16 PM - Re: Noisy fuel pump (mikspin)
5. 07:49 PM - Re: Looking for parts (HBaker)
6. 07:50 PM - Scavange pump (HBaker)
7. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (skytrucks@aol.com)
8. 09:07 PM - Re: Looking for parts (mikspin)
9. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (skytrucks@aol.com)
10. 10:22 PM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (Peter Cattoni)
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| Subject: | Looking for parts |
Henry, what do you mean by: "and someone asked me if you anyone hooks up
a bypass so you could hand prop the engine in case the battery failed?"
If the battery fails, you will have no starting ignition system. Period.
What would you need to bypass if the battery was dead? The "shower of
sparks" system (or boost coil if you will) requires battery voltage to
operate. No way around that fact. Of course you could use an external
power source as an alternative, and the Russian aircraft have provisions for
doing exactly that using an external power connection. Is that what you are
talking about?
If the battery is dead, and you try to hand prop the engine, you are going
to be doing it on the mags alone. Which may or may not work, (and is very
dangerous) depending on who you talk to. Sometimes the engine seems to fire
instantly using hand propping on mags only. Sometimes it will not start at
all. I have spun it with compressed air and no shower of sparks with the
mags on and it never hit a lick. Other people just bump the prop and it
starts all by itself with the mags on. (I actually saw that happen once and
the prop hit the person doing it).
So what are you going to by-pass?
Mark
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[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:36 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Looking for parts
--> <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Hi guys
I am looking for a pulley on the prop governor and the power lead for the
shower of sparks, and also the metal cap for the tach drive. I am hooking up
the shower of sparks , and someone asked me if you anyone hooks up a bypass
so you could hand prop the engine in case the battery failed?
Henry
Moose 294
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I am not familier with this pump, but typically most high performance car
racing fuel pumps will overheat and melt the seals if run without fuel. The
fuel cools them. Don't know beans about your fuel pump, but you might want
to be cautious.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Kraus
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Noisy fuel pump
--> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Yes, they are noisy and they do quiet down some when fuel is in them and
they get up to pressure. But they aren't all that loud with the engine
running....
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On Apr 5, 2009, at 8:12 PM, "HBaker" <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
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> I am building a murphy moose and installed the facet fuel pump under
> the pilot seat , today we hooked it up to check the amperage and it
> was super noisy!! is this common or does it quiet down when gas hits
> it?
>
> Henry
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| Subject: | Re: Manifold Drain Lines |
The swivel fitting is a nice touch!
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Manifold Drain Lines
--> <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Thanks Mark
I used an fittings, and all stainless steel braid lines and it worked
perfectly the swivel female to female can be bought at any hydraulic shop !!
Thanks again
Henry
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| Subject: | Re: Noisy fuel pump |
It's a very common aviation fuel pump
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Mark
I guess your right , if you don't have battery power than you don't have to worry
because there is no fire on the shower of sparks, I had a aircraft mechanic
in the weekend and he mentioned about bypassing the start switch , because it
would be hard to hand prop and depress the starter button at the same time,
we are starting to wire it up and trying to find out how, I guess he wasn't thinking
about that . can you use a regular silicone wire from the shower of sparks
to the left mag??
Henry
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Do you need to use a check valve on the scavenge pump?
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Hello, this is maybe a little off subject, I will mention that I have adopted the
use of the Yak cowling ring which is a beautiful piece of work, to a cowling
system built and designed mostly by a friend of mine. The lower cowling is fiberglass
amd we incorporated a 185 airbox and bracket air filter onto the M14P.
I have an extra airbox and I could put?anyone in touch with him on the fiberglass
components.?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Larry Luckinbill
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????SR 117 Moose
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From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
Mark
I guess your right , if you don't have battery power than you don't have to
worry because there is no fire on the shower of sparks, I had a aircraft
mechanic in the weekend and he mentioned about bypassing the start switch ,
because it would be hard to hand prop and depress the starter button at the same
time, we are starting to wire it up and trying to find out how, I guess he
wasn't thinking about that . can you use a regular silicone wire from the shower
of sparks to the left mag??
Henry
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Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238090#238090
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Henry,
I was just working on a Moose this weekend out in Wyoming, and the owner has a
need for a metal cap for the tach drive. I suggested he track down a local machinist
to turn a cap with metric threads to cover the original tach drive (he
has the storage cap and of course the tach drive housing for patterns and threading
measurements). If he comes up with something, I'll let you know, and by
the same token, could you post here if you come up with one yourself?
Thanks,
Mike Hastings
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Where is the Moose being built in Wyoming? I headquarter North West of Cody part
time but am building my Moose just East of Billings MT at Columbus MT. I could
also use a metal cap for my tach drive if some one comes up with a way to make
some.
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Larry Luckinbill
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????SR 117 Moose?
-----Original Message-----
From: mikspin <acromike@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:06 pm
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
Henry,
I was just working on a Moose this weekend out in Wyoming, and the owner has a
need for a metal cap for the tach drive. I suggested he track down a local
machinist to turn a cap with metric threads to cover the original tach drive (he
has the storage cap and of course the tach drive housing for patterns and
threading measurements). If he comes up with something, I'll let you know, and
by the same token, could you post here if you come up with one yourself?
Thanks,
Mike Hastings
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Hi Larry,
I am building a Moose with a friend . I would be interested in that air
box . I live in Kelowna BC Canada . For how much would you sell it for ?
Thanks,
Peter
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
skytrucks@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
Hello, this is maybe a little off subject, I will mention that I have
adopted the use of the Yak cowling ring which is a beautiful piece of
work, to a cowling system built and designed mostly by a friend of mine.
The lower cowling is fiberglass amd we incorporated a 185 airbox and
bracket air filter onto the M14P. I have an extra airbox and I could put
anyone in touch with him on the fiberglass components.
Larry Luckinbill
SR 117 Moose
-----Original Message-----
From: HBaker <henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 8:49 pm
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
Mark
I guess your right , if you don't have battery power than you don't have
to
worry because there is no fire on the shower of sparks, I had a
aircraft
mechanic in the weekend and he mentioned about bypassing the start
switch ,
because it would be hard to hand prop and depress the starter button at
the same
time, we are starting to wire it up and trying to find out how, I guess
he
wasn't thinking about that . can you use a regular silicone wire from
the shower
of sparks to the left mag??
Henry
--------
Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=238090#238090
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