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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
3. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (Darin Bishop)
4. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Looking for parts (Yak Pilot)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
They are quite reliable. Usually the problem is the wire from the
starting coil to the magneto. A simple test is to make the spark jump
to ground. If it is working properly when you press the button with
24-25 volts applied to the unit, it should jump to ground about 10 - 12
mm. If you have to hold it close to ground to get the spark to jump,
the coil is weak or the internal points have build up on them.
Dennis
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From: HBaker
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:57 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
How much trouble do you have with the shower of sparks? Or are you
guys using the electronic one, and how much is it.
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Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
To add to that comment.... I have had some really nasty problems getting
the high tension wire to properly make contact in the mag cap itself.
The spark is so strong that when it did not make good contact with the
"screw" that is supposed to penetrate the center of the high tension
wire from the high voltage starting coil (this is a Teflon insulated
wire on stock Russian systems) the high voltage arced out of the entry
point on the cap for the wire and to the mag's metal top cover. If you
ever smell something like rotten eggs after starting your engine, that
is the smell produced from the phenolic material burning up in the mag
cap as an arc burns it. My solution was to use a metal wire crimp
shortened to about 1/4 inch that I crimped onto the end of the high
tension wire, and then shoved that into the mag cap. When the screw
went in, it made a very good electrical contact to the metal wire crimp
and I have had no further problems. Before that, I would get it
working, or so it seemed, and then on a hot start the thing would just
not work at all... As in the engine would not start. Take it apart, cut
a little off the wire, re-penetrate the starting high tension wire with
the screw... And it would work AGAIN, for a few months.. And then do it
all over again. I did this no less than 5 times. The crimp thingy
fixed it.
Not suggesting this with the actual spark plug wires. If you have not
already done so, rip the stock ignition harness off your M-14 and
install Dennis Savarese's replacement kit. Considering the cost of the
kit as compared to the improvement to the engine, it is the best "bang
for the buck" of any M-14 modification I have ever seen. Don't leave
home without it!
This may sound like an advertisement... Sorry. It just is a big mistake
to not do this on an M-14 that you expect to be reliable in extreme
conditions. Like in a Moose. :-)
Mark Bitterlich
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[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A.
Dennis Savarese
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:15
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
They are quite reliable. Usually the problem is the wire from the
starting coil to the magneto. A simple test is to make the spark jump
to ground. If it is working properly when you press the button with
24-25 volts applied to the unit, it should jump to ground about 10 - 12
mm. If you have to hold it close to ground to get the spark to jump,
the coil is weak or the internal points have build up on them.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: HBaker <mailto:henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:57 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for parts
<henry.baker@nf.sympatico.ca>
How much trouble do you have with the shower of sparks? Or are
you guys using the electronic one, and how much is it.
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appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
Mark,
Can you send any pictures of the crimp thing you're talking about?
Thanks!
Darin Bishop
www.2wings.com
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for parts |
I'll go you one better.- Send me your address and I'll send you a few.-
=0A=0AYou need a good crimp tool though... sorry, can't give you that!-
:-)- =0A=0A=0AMark=0A=0Asend your address to:- mark.bitterlich@navy.mil
- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Darin Bishop <d
b2005@2wings.com>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, Apri
l 20, 2009 6:16:17 PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Looking for part
s.com>=0A=0AMark,=0A=0ACan you send any pictures of the crimp thing you're
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