---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/02/09: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:21 AM - M14P engine for sale. (verod) 2. 04:53 AM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 05:47 AM - Re: SPARK PLUGS (n395v) 4. 06:11 AM - Re: Changing type of oil (n395v) 5. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (George Coy) 6. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Eddie Moran) 7. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Jan Mevis) 8. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (George Coy) 9. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Jan Mevis) 10. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil () 11. 01:29 PM - Re: Changing type of oil (Deutsche-Werke) 12. 01:40 PM - Re: Changing type of oil (tigeryak18t) 13. 01:52 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (George Coy) 14. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (A. Dennis Savarese) 15. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Eddie Moran) 16. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Javier Carrasco) 17. 11:24 PM - Re: Re: Changing type of oil (Jan Mevis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:13 AM PST US From: verod Subject: M14PEngines-List: M14P engine for sale. Hi all, M-14P engine for sale.(located in Belgium) Contact me off-list if interested : janie@yak52.fr ______________________________________________ ============================================= ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:46 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil He said he would never use the automotive conversion kit on an airplane. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Micheal To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Here's a link to the German car with the M14 radial. http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-09/06-29-09page-Radial-engine-powered-c ompact-car.htm I wonder if he has the Spark Plug Conversion Kit on it. Cheers Guys, Jeff On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Deutsche-Werke wrote: Hi Monty. The gasoline I use, has no lead content at all. It does harm the environment, as you know. Yours, Uwe Wulf Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275652#275652 ========== ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. ========== List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:55 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS From: "n395v" I agree with Dennis, Sell the Russian plugs on e bay and do the conversion now. Plenty of planes out there running on Dennis's kit. Deutsche-Werke wrote: > Sorry, Dennis. > He asked a question and you link to a site > of selling a strange wiring system. > I would never use it on a plane, maybe on a car [Laughing] . > KG, I also don`t know what 91/92 means. > But you can measure the resistance of the > spark plugs. These plugs have integrated > resistors. Maybe there are 2 kinds of plugs... > Yours, Uwe Wulf -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275716#275716 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:36 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil From: "n395v" I can't imagine getting in the back seat of that car to change plugs or harness. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275721#275721 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:36 AM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:49 AM PST US From: Eddie Moran Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil And this.... --- On Wed, 12/2/09, George Coy wrote: From: George Coy Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:26 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil And it's an eight cylinder? Or am I mistaking ? Might need other glasses ... -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 7:27 Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:07 PM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Ah Ha you are correct and it has an even number of cylinder because ..... It is a 2 cycle engine! George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil --> And it's an eight cylinder? Or am I mistaking ? Might need other glasses ... -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 7:27 Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:27 PM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Thanks, George! Jan -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 9:02 Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Ah Ha you are correct and it has an even number of cylinder because ..... It is a 2 cycle engine! George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan Mevis Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil --> And it's an eight cylinder? Or am I mistaking ? Might need other glasses ... -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 7:27 Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:46 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil but if it's a 2-cycle engine why does it still have a pool of oil under it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Coy" Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil > > Ah Ha you are correct and it has an even number of cylinder because ..... > It > is a 2 cycle engine! > > > George Coy > CAS Ltd. > 714 Airport Rd. > Swanton VT 05488 > 802-868-5633 off > 802-363-5782 cell > george.coy@gmail.com > http://coyafct.com/ > SKYPE george.coy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jan > Mevis > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:55 PM > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil > > --> > > And it's an eight cylinder? Or am I mistaking ? Might need other glasses > ... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George > Coy > Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 7:27 > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil > > The attached is a beautiful radial engine car... > > > George Coy > CAS Ltd. > 714 Airport Rd. > Swanton VT 05488 > 802-868-5633 off > 802-363-5782 cell > george.coy@gmail.com > http://coyafct.com/ > SKYPE george.coy > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:20 PM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil From: "Deutsche-Werke" Hi. There was also another radial engine powered car design: The Volkswagen Beetle`s early prototypes had a 5 cyl. 1200cc radial engine in the rear. This VW- and the Monaco-Trossi racer`s engines were not aero engines. If anyone could find another car with radial aero engine, please let me know... Yours, Uwe Wulf Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275835#275835 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:04 PM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil From: "tigeryak18t" OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to 100W without danger (obstruction of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? Kind regards -------- Didier Tiger YAK18T Member of Commemorative Air Force French Wing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275837#275837 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:52:01 PM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil We recommend that if an engine has over 100 hrs with the Russian oil then it is better to stick to straight mineral oils. The Russian oils were particularly prevalent to coking at higher temperatures. In fact several eastern block aircraft engines had longer TBO if operated on Western detergent oils. (LOM engines). You will often see an Aeroshell or ELF sticker on older Zlins to note that they were operating on western oils and thus had longer service lives. George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tigeryak18t Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil --> OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to 100W without danger (obstruction of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? Kind regards -------- Didier Tiger YAK18T Member of Commemorative Air Force French Wing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275837#275837 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:01 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil I have been advised not to use the 15W50 oil in these engines. But I would confirm that with the engine experts like Monte Barrett and Carl Hays. If you want to use a multi-viscosity oil, go to the Philips 25W-60 which is designed for radial engines. For the sake of discussion, lets assume there was no Philips 25W-60 (mineral based) oil on the market and your only choice after break-in is to drain the break in mineral oil and replace it with a W100 or 120 oil. What would you do? I see no reason whatsoever that you can not switch to w100 or 120. Again, if your that concerned about it, please ask Monte Barrett and/or Carl Hays. Remember, this information is only worth what you've paid for it. :-) Dennis Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to 100W without danger (obstruction of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? Kind regards -------- Didier Tiger YAK18T Member of Commemorative Air Force French Wing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275837#275837 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:07 PM PST US From: Eddie Moran Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Hey Tiger, Two things.- First, why did you let your wife beat you with the 9 iron? Second, quit asking so many annoying questions about oil.- Do you think t he experts are going to tell you what to do?- Be a man, put whatever you want in the damn thing.- Just quit whining. Put 100w or 120w or 5/95, who cares the engines run fine and leak with anyt hing you put in them.- Hey, try KY or pure seasoning Olive Oil....... Eddie --- On Wed, 12/2/09, tigeryak18t wrote: From: tigeryak18t Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil l.com> OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to- 100W without danger (obstructio n of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? Kind regards -------- Didier Tiger YAK18T Member of Commemorative Air Force French Wing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275837#275837 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:11 PM PST US From: Javier Carrasco Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Hey Dider, I'm right there with you man, I'm switching from 100w to 25w60 for Radial engines and was scared of the w hole thing. Better ask while you are on the ground. JC --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Eddie Moran wrote: From: Eddie Moran Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil Hey Tiger, Two things.- First, why did you let your wife beat you with the 9 iron? Second, quit asking so many annoying questions about oil.- Do you think t he experts are going to tell you what to do?- Be a man, put whatever you want in the damn thing.- Just quit whining. Put 100w or 120w or 5/95, who cares the engines run fine and leak with anyt hing you put in them.- Hey, try KY or pure seasoning Olive Oil....... Eddie --- On Wed, 12/2/09, tigeryak18t wrote: From: tigeryak18t Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil l.com> OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to- 100W without danger (obstructio n of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? Kind regards -------- Didier Tiger YAK18T Member of Commemorative Air Force French Wing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275837#275====== ================= http://ww- - - - - - - - - - -======= ================= http://www.matroni--- > http======================= =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:12 PM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil The aeroshell W100 IS a mineral oil, 100%. Aeroshell 100 is monograde, without anything at all, for brake in, the Aeroshell W100 is the same monograde 100% mineral oil with an ashless dispersant lubricant. You can change to Aeroshell W100 at any moment. Once you changed, there's no need to go back to the straight 100. The Aeroshell W15W50 is a SEMI-SYNTHETIC oil, and should be very good, but the Design Bureau in Moskou did not accept it YET. Tests are going on. Although the W15W50 is accepted for all radial P&W's. You could also use the aeroshell W100Plus, that has some extra additives against corrosion. (Good solution for engines that don't run very often). All these oils are within the SAE 50 specifications. Jan YK50 RA2005K -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tigeryak18t Sent: woensdag 2 december 2009 10:38 Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Changing type of oil OK so as far as I read I can see nice pics and nice cars but no answer... is it possible to change from mineral to 100W without danger (obstruction of oil system due to mud going into the system..). If I understnd well Deniss it could be possible to use a mineral based oil better than the aeroshell. But changing to a W100 (for example??) Is it possible to use a 15W50 for example?? 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