---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/06/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:43 AM - Re: SPARK PLUGS (Deutsche-Werke) 2. 07:17 AM - Grand Rapids M14P settings (Brent Blue) 3. 07:34 AM - Re: Grand Rapids M14P settings (kevin kimball) 4. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: SPARK PLUGS (Yak Pilot) 5. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: SPARK PLUGS (Yak Pilot) 6. 03:19 PM - Grand Rapids M14P settings (correction) (Brent Blue) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:46 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS From: "Deutsche-Werke" That was probably just a semi-joke of me... Under my impression, it appears to me like homemade wiring, which can not withstand any short fire. In case the engine catch a fire, the cables would burn up and ignition will fail completely until you are able to find a place for emergency landing. Uwe Wulf Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276431#276431 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:36 AM PST US From: Brent Blue Subject: M14PEngines-List: Grand Rapids M14P settings Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not seem to work with their EFIS display. Thanks. Brent ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:57 AM PST US From: kevin kimball Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Grand Rapids M14P settings 19 Sincerely, Kevin Kimball, Vice President Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc. PO Box 849 5354 Cemetery Road Zellwood, FL 32798-0849 407.889.3451 phone 407.889.7168 fax www.pittsmodel12.com www.jimkimballenterprises.com Email: Kevin@jimkimballenterprises.com On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Brent Blue wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for > the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not > seem to work with their EFIS display. > > Thanks. > > Brent > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:13 PM PST US From: Yak Pilot Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS - And my response was as polite and accurate as I could make it.- Glad you saw his reply as a joke.- Many people took it seriously.- Me included. - - So since it was a joke, I can then assume that Uwe would convert to that ig nition harness in a heartbeat in his car .... or his airplane... if he ever gets one.- - Glad to know it.- - Best Regards, - Mark Bitterlich - - - - --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Michael Kraus wrote: From: Michael Kraus Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS Re-read the note and keep in mind Uwe does not own an airplane, he has a ca r powered with a M14P engine..... -He would never use it on a plane becau se he doesn't have one, maybe he would on a car because he has one..... - It was a joke.....- Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Yak Pilot wrote: - Deutsche-Werke wrote: -Sorry, Dennis. -He asked a question and you link to a site -of selling a strange wiring system. -I would never use it on a plane, maybe on a car [Laughing]- . -(text on spark plugs removed) -Yours, Uwe Wulf - Dear Uwe Wulf, - Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and of course I understand that you honestly felt your statements to be accurate and a good recommendation to others.------ - That said, it is my polite opinion that you really have no idea what you ar e talking about when it comes to ignition wiring systems on M-14 engines. - - While it is true that in some countries modifications such as what is offer ed in the United States are not-possible-due to-restrictions placed o n the owners, it is also a known fact that engines equipped with this syste m run better, develop more power, idle better, are cheaper to maintain, and are installed by most every unlimited aerobatic pilot flying behind these radials in this country.- Most people NOT using this system are just wait ing for their Russian systems to fail (which they all- do) and then will immediately convert over to the modern system discussed.--- - To someone like yourself who might not fully understand what is being offer ed, it is understandable that a person might-condemn or make fun of it. --But I suggest that before you jump to that kind of conclusion again, you fully investigate the issue before making light of it.- - The-bottom line is that the system suggested is better than the one origi nally designed, uses higher-quality-components, and works extremely wel l, as has been proved by the dozens and dozens of people already using it. - This is simply a known fact...... maybe not by yourself, but very clear ly to most everyone in the United States.- - Best Regards, - Mark Bitterlich N50YK - - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:56 PM PST US From: Yak Pilot Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS - - Uwe,- it is pretty much standard practice that when an airplane catches f ire, you look for a place to land.- Very quickly.- - The ignition wires themselves are made from silicone, which does not burn v ery well, but besides that fact, the- P lead insulation to the mags would also melt in a fire and ground- out, shutting off the mags as well. - None of that matters.--- - If you ever become a pilot and fly an airplane-you will- learn that the very first thing you do when the engine catches fire is to shut off the fu el.- When you shut off the fuel, the engine does not run anymore, but hop efully the fire goes out.- With no fuel going to the engine, it really do es not matter what the ignition harness is made out of.- - The last thing you would ever do is to ignore the fire, leave the fuel turn ed on, and try to fly it to an airport.- In fact, most folks would bail o ut of an airplane that was on fire, but if they did not have a chute, they would shut off the fuel and start praying the fire went out before the whol e aircraft went up in a bright ball of flame.- - The real reason that the original ignition harness was put into metal tube( s) was not because of fire, but because of EMI.- Electromagnetic Interfer ence.- In other words, the noise from the mags and the wires caused inter ference to every radio aboard the aircraft.- Modern ignition systems have gone a long way towards solving that problem.- - Good luck with your car.- - Mark Bitterlich - - - - - --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Deutsche-Werke wrote: From: Deutsche-Werke Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: SPARK PLUGS ke.de> That was probably just a semi-joke of me... Under my impression, it appears to me like homemade wiring, which can not withstand any short fire. In case the engine catch a fire, the cables would burn up and ignition will fail completely until you are able to find a place for emergency landing. Uwe Wulf ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:33 PM PST US From: Brent Blue Subject: M14PEngines-List: Grand Rapids M14P settings (correction) That 16 should have said 19! Thanks Ben! Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not seem to work with their EFIS display. Thanks. 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