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     1. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Booster coil (Yak Pilot)
     2. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Booster coil (Yak Pilot)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:28:58 PM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Booster coil
    The booster coil has two screw in connectors.- One for the main output vo ltage which takes a rather special piece that sits down in the socket and makes contact with the high voltage winding on the coil.- This piece looks very close to the "ci garette" that is installed in the mag itself for almost the same purpose.- This piece is h eld on with a screw on threaded cap.- - The input voltage to the boost coil is fed in on the END of the unit.- It too has a threaded on piece that is used to ground the shield, with a fitting that is almost e xactly the same as that which screws on to the OUTSIDE of the mag that Dennis was talking a bout earlier.- Just to be clear ... on that former subject..... one does not t ake the mag apart to get to ANYTHING inside the mag to connect the P Lead wire.-- The mag stays closed with the top screwed down.- You never go inside of it.- Instead you have a special piece that is soldered onto the end of the shielded P lead wire.- This special piece then slides into a HOLE on the back of the mag.- Again, you do not take anything apart to get at this.- This special phenolic piece slides in and makes contact with an internal piece of spring metal.- Then the CAP SCREW is tightened down to hold this piece in place.- The shield of the P lead is soldered to the CA P SCREW PIECE and is grounded when you tighten the connector down.- Doing this ri ght is CRITICAL to avoid severe radio noise.- I mean SEVERE.- - The boost coil is the same way.- The high voltage lead must be shielded a nd the shield grounded at the special connector.- Otherwise the boost coil starting wir e will act as a very nice antenna even when not starting, and your radios will be next to u seless.- - To attach the actual power leads (as Dennis said: 24 vdc) to the coil, you need to split the case of the boost coil in half.- (remove the 4 screws on the si de after un- bending the locking tabs).- - Inside you will see a terminal-right next to a black knurled knob that is used to adjust the point gap on the buzzer that makes the thing work to begin with. - That is your GROUND connection.- As you are looking at the thing face on, with that terminal facing you, you will see the black adjustment knob on the left, th en going clockwise you will see the double-nutted terminal that is the GROUND.- Go ing further clockwise you will see a terminal that is stand alone.- It is hoo ked to nothing else electrically.- All by itself.- That is the main 28 vdc pow er input connection.- Going further around (about 5 o'clock now) you will see a nu t that connects to the buzzer leaf spring) .- Leave that alone.- - The unit does not get it's ground from the case.- - Best Regards, - Mark Bitterlich - p.s.- Be very careful if you don't have the right connection fittings and you decide to wire it up as best you can.- Especially the P lead on the mag.- I ha ve seen (personally) radio receiver front ends blown from the noise the mag can cre ate if the P lead shield is not right.-- Good luck. - --- On Fri, 1/1/10, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Booster coil Booster coil - yes, I believe you are correct.- I just don't remember wit hout looking at one. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Booster coil ca> OK, Thanks ! That makes sense now.- I'll take a closer look at this in the morning. How about the booster coil ?- Power to the 2 nut stud and the case is alr eady grounded ? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279708#279708 http://www.mnbsp;----- via the Web href="http://forums.matronic s.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p;-------- generous bsp;----------- -------- href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">htt p://www.matronics.com/c================


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    Time: 04:39:54 PM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Booster coil
    One last comment.- Since you are building a Moose, it is very likely that you have the engine in hand, (thus the questions) along with the Boost Coil, but you do not have the special Russian wiring pieces that connect to them.- Those piece s are typically part of the original Russian or Chinese wiring harness.- I sugg est that you try to get these very special piece/parts so that you can duplicate the ori ginal set-up. - Mark - --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Booster coil The booster coil has two screw in connectors.- One for the main output vo ltage which takes a rather special piece that sits down in the socket and makes contact with the high voltage winding on the coil.- This piece looks very close to the "ci garette" that is installed in the mag itself for almost the same purpose.- This piece is h eld on with a screw on threaded cap.- - The input voltage to the boost coil is fed in on the END of the unit.- It too has a threaded on piece that is used to ground the shield, with a fitting that is almost e xactly the same as that which screws on to the OUTSIDE of the mag that Dennis was talking a bout earlier.- Just to be clear ... on that former subject..... one does not t ake the mag apart to get to ANYTHING inside the mag to connect the P Lead wire.-- The mag stays closed with the top screwed down.- You never go inside of it.- Instead you have a special piece that is soldered onto the end of the shielded P lead wire.- This special piece then slides into a HOLE on the back of the mag.- Again, you do not take anything apart to get at this.- This special phenolic piece slides in and makes contact with an internal piece of spring metal.- Then the CAP SCREW is tightened down to hold this piece in place.- The shield of the P lead is soldered to the CA P SCREW PIECE and is grounded when you tighten the connector down.- Doing this ri ght is CRITICAL to avoid severe radio noise.- I mean SEVERE.- - The boost coil is the same way.- The high voltage lead must be shielded a nd the shield grounded at the special connector.- Otherwise the boost coil starting wir e will act as a very nice antenna even when not starting, and your radios will be next to u seless.- - To attach the actual power leads (as Dennis said: 24 vdc) to the coil, you need to split the case of the boost coil in half.- (remove the 4 screws on the si de after un- bending the locking tabs).- - Inside you will see a terminal-right next to a black knurled knob that is used to adjust the point gap on the buzzer that makes the thing work to begin with. - That is your GROUND connection.- As you are looking at the thing face on, with that terminal facing you, you will see the black adjustment knob on the left, th en going clockwise you will see the double-nutted terminal that is the GROUND.- Go ing further clockwise you will see a terminal that is stand alone.- It is hoo ked to nothing else electrically.- All by itself.- That is the main 28 vdc pow er input connection.- Going further around (about 5 o'clock now) you will see a nu t that connects to the buzzer leaf spring) .- Leave that alone.- - The unit does not get it's ground from the case.- - Best Regards, - Mark Bitterlich - p.s.- Be very careful if you don't have the right connection fittings and you decide to wire it up as best you can.- Especially the P lead on the mag.- I ha ve seen (personally) radio receiver front ends blown from the noise the mag can cre ate if the P lead shield is not right.-- Good luck. - --- On Fri, 1/1/10, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Booster coil Booster coil - yes, I believe you are correct.- I just don't remember wit hout looking at one. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: HBaker Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Booster coil ca> OK, Thanks ! That makes sense now.- I'll take a closer look at this in the morning. How about the booster coil ?- Power to the 2 nut stud and the case is alr eady grounded ? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279708#279708 http://www.mnbsp;----- via the Web href="http://forums.matronic s.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p;-------- generous bsp;----------- -------- href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">htt p://www.matronics.com/c================ st" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PE ngines-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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