---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/13/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:00 AM - Removing the link rod out of a M14P (Francois Davel) 2. 06:07 AM - Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 06:48 AM - Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P (George Coy) 4. 12:06 PM - Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P (Francois Davel) 5. 12:09 PM - Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P (Francois Davel) 6. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P (William Halverson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:04 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Removing the link rod out of a M14P From: "Francois Davel" Hi there friends I have suffered from the dreaded Hydraulic Lock.... Now I would like to remove the #4 link rod out of the Master Rod. See the attached diagram. The engine is still in place. >From the diagram, it would seem that the two rings need to come off both sides and then the question is will the pins come out? are they a pressed fit? if they are is there some diagram of a puller that one could make that could pull the pin out? Any advice and help would be really appreciated! Cheers from a warm and humid Howick in South Africa Francois -------- Round Engines RULE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286248#286248 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/master_rodd_assm_204.pdf ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:46 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Removing the link rod out of a M14P Cylinder #4 does not have a link rod. It is the master rod (#1 in the diagram). The link rods (#5 in the diagram) are connected to the other 8 cylinders and to the lower end of the master rod. Note the 8 holes in the round, lower section of the master rod (#1 in the diagram). Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Davel To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:59 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Removing the link rod out of a M14P Hi there friends I have suffered from the dreaded Hydraulic Lock.... Now I would like to remove the #4 link rod out of the Master Rod. See the attached diagram. The engine is still in place. >From the diagram, it would seem that the two rings need to come off both sides and then the question is will the pins come out? are they a pressed fit? if they are is there some diagram of a puller that one could make that could pull the pin out? Any advice and help would be really appreciated! Cheers from a warm and humid Howick in South Africa Francois -------- Round Engines RULE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286248#286248 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/master_rodd_assm_204.pdf ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:49 AM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Removing the link rod out of a M14P As Dennis pointed out No. 4 is the master rod. If it is bent then you have a very serious problem and it will not be fixed in the field. You are correct that both retaining rings need to be removed. The pins are a press fit and they only go in one way as well as in one clock position. You will have to pull several cylinders around the offending one to get at things. It is not a job for the faint of heart. I know of several people who have changed a bent rod in the field and have done it myself on an AI-14. You will have to make a tool to press the pin out and to press it back in the replacement rod. I loaned the one I made to someone several years ago. Now I cannot remember who it was and obviously they did not bother to return it. If the engine was run with the bent rod you may have more serious problems as it puts metal fines throughout the engine George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francois Davel Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:00 AM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Removing the link rod out of a M14P Hi there friends I have suffered from the dreaded Hydraulic Lock.... Now I would like to remove the #4 link rod out of the Master Rod. See the attached diagram. The engine is still in place. >From the diagram, it would seem that the two rings need to come off both sides and then the question is will the pins come out? are they a pressed fit? if they are is there some diagram of a puller that one could make that could pull the pin out? Any advice and help would be really appreciated! Cheers from a warm and humid Howick in South Africa Francois -------- Round Engines RULE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286248#286248 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/master_rodd_assm_204.pdf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:54 PM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P From: "Francois Davel" My apologies th's was a typo....I need to remove link rod #5 I hope this make more sense..... Cheers Francois -------- Round Engines RULE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286301#286301 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:52 PM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P From: "Francois Davel" george(at)gesoco.com wrote: > As Dennis pointed out No. 4 is the master rod. If it is bent then > you have a very serious problem and it will not be fixed in the field. > You are correct that both retaining rings need to be removed. The > pins are a press fit and they only go in one way as well as in one clock > position. You will have to pull several cylinders around the offending one > to get at things. It is not a job for the faint of heart. I know of several > people who have changed a bent rod in the field and have done it myself on > an AI-14. You will have to make a tool to press the pin out and to press it > back in the replacement rod. I loaned the one I made to someone several > years ago. Now I cannot remember who it was and obviously they did not > bother to return it. > If the engine was run with the bent rod you may have more serious > problems as it puts metal fines throughout the engine > > George Coy > CAS Ltd. > 714 Airport Rd. > Swanton VT 05488 > 802-868-5633 off > 802-363-5782 cell > george.coy@gmail.com > http://coyafct.com/ > SKYPE george.coy > > > Please could you let me know what the tool looks like that you need to remove the pin? can you e mail me a drawing or post something here? > > Thanks cheers > > Francois > -- -------- Round Engines RULE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286302#286302 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:42 PM PST US From: "William Halverson" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P Here is a linkn to a tool kit George sells: http://coyafct.com/2010/01/m14-engine-tool-kit/ +-----Original Message----- +From: Francois Davel [mailto:fdavel@senninger.com] +Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:09 PM +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com +Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: Removing the link rod out of a M14P + + + +george(at)gesoco.com wrote: +> As Dennis pointed out No. 4 is the master rod. If it is bent then +> you have a very serious problem and it will not be fixed in the field. +> You are correct that both retaining rings need to be removed. The +> pins are a press fit and they only go in one way as well as in one clock +> position. You will have to pull several cylinders around the offending one +> to get at things. It is not a job for the faint of heart. I know of several +> people who have changed a bent rod in the field and have done it myself on +> an AI-14. You will have to make a tool to press the pin out and to press it +> back in the replacement rod. I loaned the one I made to someone several +> years ago. Now I cannot remember who it was and obviously they did not +> bother to return it. +> If the engine was run with the bent rod you may have more serious +> problems as it puts metal fines throughout the engine +> +> George Coy +> CAS Ltd. +> 714 Airport Rd. +> Swanton VT 05488 +> 802-868-5633 off +> 802-363-5782 cell +> george.coy@gmail.com +> http://coyafct.com/ +> SKYPE george.coy +> +> +> Please could you let me know what the tool looks like that you need to remove the pin? can you e mail me a drawing or post something here? +> +> Thanks cheers +> +> Francois +> -- + + +-------- +Round Engines RULE! + + + + +Read this topic online here: + +http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286302#286302 + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message m14pengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/M14PEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/m14pengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/m14pengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.