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1. 02:48 AM - Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load (Loray)
2. 04:07 AM - Re: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load (Mark Cupitt)
3. 07:00 AM - Re: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load (Scott Aldrich)
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| Subject: | Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load |
--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Loray" <loray@pbgroup.com.ph>
Dear All,
I see that the Murphy website has pictures of Gerry Halsall's completed, nice-looking
Moose. In the description, it mentions that it has the "Murphy extended
wing tips."
Can anyone tell me if these extended wing tips increase the gross weight, like
the ART Wing-X extensions do for the Cessnas?
I'm not yet a Moose owner. I'm seriously interested, but there are 2 things holding
me back.
One is the useful load. I have a Cessna 185 now. On wheels, its useful load is
1,573 lbs. On amphib floats, its useful load is 926 lbs. I could increases
those weights (legally) with the ART wing extensions by another 175 lbs.
But realistically, my 300 hp engine is going to struggle to get off the water at
a 3,525 lb gross. Hence my very keen interest in the Moose.
But from what I'm hearing ... most Moose builders are getting empty weights on
wheels in excess of 2,000 lbs. Although my understanding is that the builder
can set the gross weight higher than what Murphy recommends. The M14 certainly
has enough power to handle heavier weights, but I'm worried that the wing area
isn't big enough. Hence the interest in the wing extensions.
The other big concern that's holding me back is the prop clearance on floats.
My 185 has a seaplane prop that appears to have much more clearance than either
of the MT props on the Moose. If I'm already picking up a lot of spray in the
prop on my 185, I worry that it would be real issue with the Moose. (I fly
off of open ocean in the Philippines).
If anyone could address these concerns, I sure would be appreciative.
Thanks,
Loray Greiner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10314#10314
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| Subject: | Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load |
--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Mark Cupitt" <mark@metalcrafters.ph>
Hi Loray
Nice to see you are looking at a moose. Drop by and see me when you are back
up our way, perhaps at the balloon festival
Regards
Mark C
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[mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Loray
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful
load
--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Loray" <loray@pbgroup.com.ph>
Dear All,
I see that the Murphy website has pictures of Gerry Halsall's completed,
nice-looking Moose. In the description, it mentions that it has the "Murphy
extended wing tips."
Can anyone tell me if these extended wing tips increase the gross weight,
like the ART Wing-X extensions do for the Cessnas?
I'm not yet a Moose owner. I'm seriously interested, but there are 2 things
holding me back.
One is the useful load. I have a Cessna 185 now. On wheels, its useful
load is 1,573 lbs. On amphib floats, its useful load is 926 lbs. I could
increases those weights (legally) with the ART wing extensions by another
175 lbs.
But realistically, my 300 hp engine is going to struggle to get off the
water at a 3,525 lb gross. Hence my very keen interest in the Moose.
But from what I'm hearing ... most Moose builders are getting empty weights
on wheels in excess of 2,000 lbs. Although my understanding is that the
builder can set the gross weight higher than what Murphy recommends. The
M14 certainly has enough power to handle heavier weights, but I'm worried
that the wing area isn't big enough. Hence the interest in the wing
extensions.
The other big concern that's holding me back is the prop clearance on
floats. My 185 has a seaplane prop that appears to have much more clearance
than either of the MT props on the Moose. If I'm already picking up a lot
of spray in the prop on my 185, I worry that it would be real issue with the
Moose. (I fly off of open ocean in the Philippines).
If anyone could address these concerns, I sure would be appreciative.
Thanks,
Loray Greiner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10314#10314
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| Subject: | Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load |
--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Scott Aldrich" <s-aldrich@comcast.net>
Hi Loray,
There is no "advertised" gross weight increase by Murphy with the extended
wing tip but it would theoretically. I suspect the "extended" wing tips he
refers to are the new, optional, slightly droop tips that are approximately
9 inches more span than the original tip.
Another builder has extended the actual wing out one bay (12 inches) and
used the standard tip so gained about another 4 inches.
I don't recall a lot of water spray at all when flying Ron K's plane and it
has longer blades than the standard V530. I'll see if Steve is around, he
has a lot of time in Ron's and has longer blades for his too.
I know a few with the three blade MT props on floats, I'll see if they are
around also.
Scott
Moose 174
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