MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/07/06


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 07:04 AM - Re: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load (Scott Aldrich)
     2. 05:02 PM - Re: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load (Loray)
     3. 09:09 PM - V-530 props available (Dan Young)
     4. 11:47 PM - Moose vs 185 (Rhodes)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:04:02 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Aldrich" <s-aldrich@comcast.net>
    Subject: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load
    --> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Scott Aldrich" <s-aldrich@comcast.net> Steve pointed out that the prop on the Otter hangs down to the floats and erosion isn't a major problem, probably due to geared engine and lower prop RPM. Seems the M14 would benefit from the lower prop RPM also. He doesn't recall a lot of spray with Ron's Moose with the long two blade either but this is on straight floats. It is probably sitting a little higher in the water than amphibs would. FWIW Scott


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    Time: 05:02:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wing Extensions & other stuff to boost useful load
    From: "Loray" <loray@pbgroup.com.ph>
    --> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Loray" <loray@pbgroup.com.ph> Hi Scott: Any light you can shed on prop clearance issues on floats would be greatly appreciated. Some of the guys must have some time on rough water now. Every water takeoff in the Philippines is rough water, with open ocean and constant trade winds. Downwind taxi turns with the big-tail 185 are challenging. Hi Mark: I'm in Singapore now, Bangkok tonight, and Manila on Friday. But I don't know if I'll make it up for the balloon fiesta. The amphib hasn't been flown for a while and the engine is still perserved. Not sure if I'll get it un-pickled and thoroughly looked over before the weekend. Regards, Loray Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=10720#10720


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    Time: 09:09:50 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Young" <n35dy@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: V-530 props available
    I am building a Model 12 and wound up with 2 new V-530TA-D35 props that I would like to sell. If interested, please contact me off list or see Barnstormers add listed under "Aerobatic". http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php 901-337-4821 Thanks. Dan Young


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    Time: 11:47:29 PM PST US
    From: "Rhodes" <rhodes5@alaska.net>
    Subject: Moose vs 185
    Loray You are correct that the Moose needs more wing area with the M14 and also that an M14 Moose is going to weigh at least 2000 lbs. My own is bare bones with lots of beef ups and it weighs 2222 on big tires. A late model 185 with a fancy panel can also top 2000 lbs on big tires. A Beaver will come in around 3200 on wheels with just a shade more HP than the M14. I used the stock tips as Scott mentioned and added a bay to each wing (13") Scott and I also added trailing edge to the flaps and ailerons for more area. Prop spray is not a concern as those big blades are only turning 1941 rpm on takeoff and even at heavy weights it is on the step and off in short order. After 100 hours I see no sign or erosion on Ron's blades (Russian 2 blade). I never had much for prop erosion on my 185 either but I have seen poor habits on the water take its course. If you really want to build something YOURSELF and think the Moose is the plane then you should investigate further. If you plan to have someone else build one I personally think you are asking for a headache and a huge BILL. The 185 holds up to severe abuse very well and it sounds like yours is already flying. Steve Rhodes




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