---------------------------------------------------------- MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/15/06: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Re: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? (George Coy) 2. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? (bob tripp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:57 AM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? Send me your Snail Mail address (off list) and we will send it out. George Coy President Gesoco Industries Inc. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 TEL 802-868-5633 FAX 802-868-4465 Web Site www.gesoco.com e-mail George@gesoco.com Franklin County Airport (KFSO) -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bob tripp Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:09 AM To: murphymoose-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? George-- We need one too, if that is possible. We have #255 under construction. BobTripp At 12:47 PM 08/14/2006, you wrote: --> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "George Coy" Send me an E-mail off list and I will send you (free) a CD with all English manuals and instillation notes. George Coy President Gesoco Industries Inc. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 TEL 802-868-5633 FAX 802-868-4465 Web Site www.gesoco.com e-mail George@gesoco.com Franklin County Airport (KFSO) -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris In Madison Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 2:31 PM To: murphymoose-list@matronics.com Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? --> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" Many thanks Scott, George, for your thoughts. The article you asked about, Scott, is the article from your site authored by Fred Abramson. I guess when the article's first paragraph mentioned says, "...the M14P may have some surprises in store for you. Expensive surprises. Maybe even scary surprises", a guy like me could develop a negative image from the get-go. The look of the rotary engine on the Moose is just too amazing to ignore, and the fuel-flow numbers you estimated are a lot lower than I expected them to be. That's quite welcome! I was worried that they were going to far exceed their flat-bodied counterparts. I can accept that if one want to use this kind of engine that one has to accept the side effects (if you will). Interestingly, a couple of hours after I first posted this message, I thought I'd peruse the M14 forums to see what kind of information is available, and I ran across references to some of the specialized kits made available from vendors to minimize some of those side effects. It appears that this engine is rather well supported in the U.S. Seeing that some of these engines make their way to ag aircraft, and living here in the middle of corn and cow country, it seems reasonable that one might find service for an M14 within a reasonable distance. Regarding the Russian maintenance manual of which you spoke, I presume there is a translation available, or are there lots of circles and arrows? :-) Of the limited things I've read, in addition to your comments, the engine's service manuals are said to be very well laid out and cover the material thoroughly. That would be a great benefit, to be sure. I would appreciate any direction to other references to this engine if you're aware of any. Thanks again for taking the time to write. I'm looking forward to continued reading of your Moose adventures, along with any trials and tribulations related to the airframe. I'm trying to stay on top of the tailwheel bulkead and elevator cracking incidents and see if Murphy addresses them before I'm ready to build anything. Best regards, Chris -------- Chris Owens Waunakee, WI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54743#54743 MurphyMoose-List Email Forum - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - http://forums.matronics.com - NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - http://wiki.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:10 AM PST US From: bob tripp Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? Thanks George-- P.O. BOX 1896, FRIDAY HARBOR,WA 98250 Bob At 05:02 AM 08/15/2006, you wrote: >Send me your Snail Mail address (off list) and we will send it out. > > >George Coy >President >Gesoco Industries Inc. >629 Airport Rd. >Swanton, VT 05488 >TEL 802-868-5633 >FAX 802-868-4465 >Web Site www.gesoco.com >e-mail George@gesoco.com >Franklin County Airport (KFSO) >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bob tripp >Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:09 AM >To: murphymoose-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? > >George-- We need one too, if that is possible. We have #255 under >construction. >BobTripp > >At 12:47 PM 08/14/2006, you wrote: >>--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "George Coy" >> >>Send me an E-mail off list and I will send you (free) a CD with all English >>manuals and instillation notes. >> >>George Coy >>President >>Gesoco Industries Inc. >>629 Airport Rd. >>Swanton, VT 05488 >>TEL 802-868-5633 >>FAX 802-868-4465 >>Web Site www.gesoco.com >>e-mail George@gesoco.com >>Franklin County Airport (KFSO) >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com >>[ mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris >>In Madison >>Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 2:31 PM >>To: murphymoose-list@matronics.com >>Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Radial engine: more pro than con? >> >> >>--> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" >> >>Many thanks Scott, George, for your thoughts. >> >>The article you asked about, Scott, is the article from your site authored >>by Fred Abramson. I guess when the article's first paragraph mentioned >>says, "...the M14P may have some surprises in store for you. Expensive >>surprises. Maybe even scary surprises", a guy like me could develop a >>negative image from the get-go. >> >>The look of the rotary engine on the Moose is just too amazing to ignore, >>and the fuel-flow numbers you estimated are a lot lower than I expected them >>to be. That's quite welcome! I was worried that they were going to far >>exceed their flat-bodied counterparts. >> >>I can accept that if one want to use this kind of engine that one has to >>accept the side effects (if you will). Interestingly, a couple of hours >>after I first posted this message, I thought I'd peruse the M14 forums to >>see what kind of information is available, and I ran across references to >>some of the specialized kits made available from vendors to minimize some of >>those side effects. It appears that this engine is rather well supported in >>the U.S. Seeing that some of these engines make their way to ag aircraft, >>and living here in the middle of corn and cow country, it seems reasonable >>that one might find service for an M14 within a reasonable distance. >> >>Regarding the Russian maintenance manual of which you spoke, I presume there >>is a translation available, or are there lots of circles and arrows? :-) Of >>the limited things I've read, in addition to your comments, the engine's >>service manuals are said to be very well laid out and cover the material >>thoroughly. That would be a great benefit, to be sure. I would appreciate >>any direction to other references to this engine if you're aware of any. >> >>Thanks again for taking the time to write. I'm looking forward to continued >>reading of your Moose adventures, along with any trials and tribulations >>related to the airframe. I'm trying to stay on top of the tailwheel bulkead >>and elevator cracking incidents and see if Murphy addresses them before I'm >>ready to build anything. >> >>Best regards, >>Chris >> >>-------- >>Chris Owens >>Waunakee, WI >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54743#54743 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>MurphyMoose-List Email Forum - >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List >>- NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>http://forums.matronics.com >>- NEW MATRONICS LIST WIKI - >>http://wiki.matronics.com >>- List Contribution Web Site - >>-Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > >=================================== > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List > >=================================== > >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > >=================================== > >href="http://wiki.matronics.com">http://wiki.matronics.com > >=================================== > >href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >=================================== > >