---------------------------------------------------------- MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/05/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? (Scott Aldrich) 2. 10:29 AM - Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? (Scott Aldrich) 3. 10:44 AM - Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? (Ted Waltman) 4. 11:13 AM - Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? (Scott Aldrich) 5. 11:30 AM - Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? (Ted Waltman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:42 AM PST US From: "Scott Aldrich" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Cable routing--quick build wings? --> MurphyMoose-List message posted by: "Scott Aldrich" Ted, Does it look like there is room to run the conduit down the very leading edge? Along the front side of the front spare, just inside the curve? Seems it couldn't move much at all in there and you wouldn't have to put in a zillion clamps, however not sure how much room to get wires around the forward attach fitting. Maybe jog it back to the other side just before getting there. Of course my FB fuselage is just like yours so if the lights stop working I'll know where to look . Scott Moose 174 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:54 AM PST US From: "Scott Aldrich" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, Did you insert the picture in the matronic's list or just the rebel list archives? I didn't see it here, not sure if you knew that you can now insert (or was it attach?) right into the Matronic's emails now. _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? See uploaded picture in SR-Moose, 106 S/M Wings. In taking apart one of my wing leading edge skins, I discovered that the plastic tube that protects wires as well as my pitot / static tubes was simply zip-tied to all of the leading edge ribs. As you can see in the uploaded picture, after about 230 hours in my plane, the "protective" tube in mine is a short time away from cutting wires / tubes. About half of the rib-attachments show cuts of this magnitude. I think someone told me that Moose quick build wings all have their wires / pitot tubes routed (zip-tied) like this. Is that true, or am I just lucky? Seems that there's a lurking problem out there... Ted Waltman ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:37 AM PST US From: "Ted Waltman" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Sorry folks...forgot to insert the picture of the conduit in my post yesterday. Thanks for reminding me Scott. I'll try inserting the picture in this email. Ted _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, Did you insert the picture in the matronic's list or just the rebel list archives? I didn't see it here, not sure if you knew that you can now insert (or was it attach?) right into the Matronic's emails now. _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? See uploaded picture in SR-Moose, 106 S/M Wings. In taking apart one of my wing leading edge skins, I discovered that the plastic tube that protects wires as well as my pitot / static tubes was simply zip-tied to all of the leading edge ribs. As you can see in the uploaded picture, after about 230 hours in my plane, the "protective" tube in mine is a short time away from cutting wires / tubes. About half of the rib-attachments show cuts of this magnitude. I think someone told me that Moose quick build wings all have their wires / pitot tubes routed (zip-tied) like this. Is that true, or am I just lucky? Seems that there's a lurking problem out there... Ted Waltman ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:49 AM PST US From: "Scott Aldrich" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, are any of the "looser" ones doing this? Just wondering if it is okay if they hadn't pulled the wrap tie so tight? Another way is to use a short piece of rubber hose as a stand off and still use the wrap tie. Wrap tie goes around whatever through the hose and then around the other whatever. I have a bunch of stand offs like that in my engine compartment and it works great. Scott _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Sorry folks...forgot to insert the picture of the conduit in my post yesterday. Thanks for reminding me Scott. I'll try inserting the picture in this email. Ted _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, Did you insert the picture in the matronic's list or just the rebel list archives? I didn't see it here, not sure if you knew that you can now insert (or was it attach?) right into the Matronic's emails now. _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? See uploaded picture in SR-Moose, 106 S/M Wings. In taking apart one of my wing leading edge skins, I discovered that the plastic tube that protects wires as well as my pitot / static tubes was simply zip-tied to all of the leading edge ribs. As you can see in the uploaded picture, after about 230 hours in my plane, the "protective" tube in mine is a short time away from cutting wires / tubes. About half of the rib-attachments show cuts of this magnitude. I think someone told me that Moose quick build wings all have their wires / pitot tubes routed (zip-tied) like this. Is that true, or am I just lucky? Seems that there's a lurking problem out there... Ted Waltman atronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:31 AM PST US From: "Ted Waltman" Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Yes, it it just the ribs with the tighter zip-ties that exhibit the problem. Of course, there's no way to know what's loose or tight if one didn't see inside their wing before it was closed up. I like your simple approach for the stand-offs. Ted _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, are any of the "looser" ones doing this? Just wondering if it is okay if they hadn't pulled the wrap tie so tight? Another way is to use a short piece of rubber hose as a stand off and still use the wrap tie. Wrap tie goes around whatever through the hose and then around the other whatever. I have a bunch of stand offs like that in my engine compartment and it works great. Scott _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Sorry folks...forgot to insert the picture of the conduit in my post yesterday. Thanks for reminding me Scott. I'll try inserting the picture in this email. Ted _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? Ted, Did you insert the picture in the matronic's list or just the rebel list archives? I didn't see it here, not sure if you knew that you can now insert (or was it attach?) right into the Matronic's emails now. _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Waltman Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Cable routing--quick build wings? See uploaded picture in SR-Moose, 106 S/M Wings. In taking apart one of my wing leading edge skins, I discovered that the plastic tube that protects wires as well as my pitot / static tubes was simply zip-tied to all of the leading edge ribs. As you can see in the uploaded picture, after about 230 hours in my plane, the "protective" tube in mine is a short time away from cutting wires / tubes. About half of the rib-attachments show cuts of this magnitude. I think someone told me that Moose quick build wings all have their wires / pitot tubes routed (zip-tied) like this. Is that true, or am I just lucky? Seems that there's a lurking problem out there... Ted Waltman atronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List