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1. 06:17 AM - Re: 65HP climb rate (Gadd, Skip)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Airfoil (Kent Hallsten)
3. 10:42 AM - Walt's pictures (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 10:54 AM - trim system (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 05:13 PM - Re: Airfoil (Kevin Holcomb)
6. 09:26 PM - Re: trim system (ZigoDan@aol.com)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
Sometimes all the numbers and formulas really confuse my tired old brain,
but I can add this.
I had the pleasure to ride in Williams Corvair Piet at Brodhead, Gus was the
pilot and as mentioned he is a big guy. The main thing I remember is the way
I was pushed back in the seat at the beginning of the T/O roll.
I have had rides in about a dozen Piets and GN1s and Williams had by far the
most seat compression.
I don't remember anything about climb, guess I was too excited.
I do remember that Williams Corvair was also the quietest Piet I have heard,
you could hear the prop, and almost nothing else, when it flew overhead at
something less than pattern altitude.
Skip, still working on L/G and turning my hubs.
....even at cruise I KNOW the 'vair gives more than 60hp.
DJ
> against these claims of high HP from a Corvair.
> walt
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten" <KHallsten@Governair.com>
Kevin,
My server at work won't let us access "angelfire" websites. Would you
be able to send this airfoil to the Matronics Photoshare, if it's not too much
trouble? By the way, I don't know if everybody knows this but we can list files
in this area, it's not just for photos.
Thanks
Kent Hallsten
Currently retaking control of "my airplane factory" from the wife and kids
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Holcomb [mailto:ksholcomb@mindspring.com]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kevin Holcomb" <ksholcomb@mindspring.com>
.... detailed in that region. The data and coordinates are on the Air Camper
page within my personal web page which can be found at:
http://www.angelfire.com/va2/aerodrome/
It is a high lift/high drag airfoil as one would expect from a low and slow
flier.
Kevin Holcomb
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Walt was kind enough to point us to a site where pictures of his plane (and
of him) are located, but here's a straight shot to his picture so you won't
have to snoop to find it: http://gtalexander.home.att.net/piet.html
She's a beauty, Walt. I guess you and Corky got yours in the air within
just weeks of each other, eh? Maybe the last two to take wing in 2002 (that
we know of).
Oscar Ziga (do not archive)
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
If I might add my two cents' worth to the trim setup discussion, I've seen
pictures of the Taylorcraft-style setup with mini-tabs on each side of the
tailcone near the horizontal stab and it looked interesting and easy to do.
However, remember that most Piets tend to be tail-heavy, so adding anything
back there is going to cause weight/balance problems. Better to go with the
spring or bungee setup like Mike Cuy is using, providing biasing force to
the elevator controls.
And as for Corky's idea about making the HS adjustable for doing final
rigging, it's certainly worth thinking about when building the HS
attachment. The alternative is having to 'torque' the HS by differentially
tightening the brace wires. Or finding that the plane needs to be trimmed
with the elevator out of trail with the HS to fly straight & level, which
can only mean more drag. And we certainly don't want more drag on a sports
car like the sleek and sassy Pietenpol, do we? ;o)
Oscar Ziga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kevin Holcomb" <ksholcomb@mindspring.com>
I sent the files to you via email. Hopefully that will work for you.
Otherwise you might try a computer somewhere else, some libraries have a
setup. There is nothing on my site that should be offensive in a
professional environment.
Kevin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Hallsten" <KHallsten@governair.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten"
<KHallsten@Governair.com>
>
> Kevin,
> My server at work won't let us access "angelfire" websites. Would
you be able to send this airfoil to the Matronics Photoshare, if it's not
too much trouble? By the way, I don't know if everybody knows this but we
can list files in this area, it's not just for photos.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kent Hallsten
> Currently retaking control of "my airplane factory" from the wife and kids
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Holcomb [mailto:ksholcomb@mindspring.com]
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kevin Holcomb"
<ksholcomb@mindspring.com>
>
> .... detailed in that region. The data and coordinates are on the Air
Camper
> page within my personal web page which can be found at:
> http://www.angelfire.com/va2/aerodrome/
>
> It is a high lift/high drag airfoil as one would expect from a low and
slow
> flier.
>
> Kevin Holcomb
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ZigoDan@aol.com
The only draw back about Mike Cuys trim system is that if for some strange
reason a cable breaks, or there is loss of stick control to the elevator
there is no back up. That is why on Cessna 150, Champs, Cubs, the trim is a
total different system. You can land a 150, champ, or Cub in an emergency
with trim only.
I have thought about building one elevator with a cockpit controllable tab.
Dan
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