Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:15 AM - first flights (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 06:21 AM - Re: refueling from cans (Christian Bobka)
3. 08:05 AM - Vertical CG (kirk)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Fw: I'm a little bugged ( ironic follow-up) (Michael D Cuy)
5. 10:13 AM - Re: Vertical CG (Gadd, Skip)
6. 11:24 AM - checkride (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 11:42 AM - Re: Vertical CG (kirk)
8. 12:50 PM - Re: Fw: I'm a little bugged ( ironic follow-up) (walter evans)
9. 02:28 PM - New guy (LAWRENCE WILLIAMS)
10. 05:21 PM - Re: Selling some Piet stuff (Michael Conkling)
11. 05:52 PM - Re: (Michael Conkling)
12. 10:16 PM - Subject: 'Twas the Night Before Christmas..... (Gary Gower)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
You folks who are nearing completion and who are EAA members will surely
want to immortalize your Piets by getting the centennial data plate that EAA
is offering to anyone who completes their homebuilt between Dec. 17, 2002
and Dec. 31, 2003. This commemorates the 100th anniversary of powered
flight (Dec. 17, 1903). There is info on the EAA website, at
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/021212_package.html
I asked the EAA rep about the requirements since it says "any homebuilt
aircraft completed..." but then uses the registration date as the standard.
I pointed out that many builders get the registration well before completing
their aircraft (like myself), and he said that the registration isn't the
only thing they will look at. It's mostly on the honor system and based on
the builder providing sufficient documentation to the effect that the plane
was completed in that timeframe. They didn't define "completed" as finished
and flown, or finished and getting airworthiness, or just what. However,
the EAA rep did say that it wasn't tied to getting your airworthiness
because he presumed that you would have the centennial data plate affixed to
the aircraft prior to airworthiness inspection (sorry, Corky and maybe
Walt).
DJ and some of the rest of you, here's your goal for completing your Piets
in the next 12 months-!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | refueling from cans |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
If you run on the premise that you ground it (your car, etc.) as the nozzle
slips into the opening, isn't there a chance of a spark jumping the gap as
the nozzle gets close? Is that not why we ground the airplane first AWAY
from the gas tank and vent opeings so if it does want to spark it can do so
in a benign place?
The threat is real. Even with an automobile.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ted
Brousseau
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: refueling from cans
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
I believe the hose and nozzle is grounded and it grounds the car when slid
into the opening.
Ted Brousseau
I knew this humid place was good for something
Naples, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Caroll & Mara Holmstrom" <caroll@mninter.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: refueling from cans
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Caroll & Mara Holmstrom"
<caroll@mninter.net>
>
> The problem with static charges causing a fire has been dealt with by the
> Army many years ago. They have to solider filling up the truck connect a
> ground strap (conductive cable to dissipate static) from the truck to
> earth-n-ground or the can if a can is being used before contact is made.
At
> least they did when I was in the service.
> Although less likely a static charge can be generated in humid climates
> depending the type of clothing and shoes the person is wearing.
> I don't know why the oil industry has not required something like that a
> ground strap at a gas station. Probably because of the cost.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: kirk <kirkh@unique-software.com>
Does anyone know an approx vertical CG down from the top longeron?
Just trying to figure out landing gear placment and this would help.
Thanks
Kirk
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| Subject: | Re: I'm a little bugged ( ironic follow-up) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Walt !!! Way to go on getting your temporary Repairman's Certificate from
the FAA !!!!
You be a certified mechanic on your plane now......you are your own A&P and
IA !!!! Hah ! Good going.
So what are you going to charge yourself to do your condition inspections
or hourly maintenance work ?
It's a joy........I know.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
Kirk,
Don't know the vertical CG, but per Bill Rewey at his Piet forums at
Sun&Fun.
No breaks, leave landing gear as per plans.
With breaks, move axle forward 3".
Skip
>Just trying to figure out landing gear placment and this would help.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Don't know if this was already posted, but since we've been discussing FAA
inspectors and all... but do not archive
===========================
Santa Claus, like all pilots, gets regular visits from the Federal
Aviation Administration, and the FAA examiner arrived last week for the
pre-Christmas flight check. In preparation, Santa had the elves wash the
sled and bathe all the reindeer. Santa got his logbook out and made sure
all his paperwork was in order. He knew they would examine all his
equipment and truly put Santa's flying skills to the test. The examiner
walked slowly around the sled. He checked the reindeer harnesses, the
landing gear, and even Rudolph's nose. He painstakingly reviewed Santa's
weight and balance calculations for sled's enormous payload. Finally,
they
were ready for the check ride. Santa got in and fastened his seat belt
and
shoulder harness and checked the compass. Then the examiner hopped in
carrying, to Santa's surprise, a shotgun. "What's that for!?" asked
Santa
incredulously. The examiner winked and said, "I'm not supposed to tell
you
this ahead of time," as he leaned over to whisper in Santa's ear, "but
you're gonna lose an engine on takeoff."
==================================
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: kirk <kirkh@unique-software.com>
I wish it were that easy. I am dealing with a number of things that
make figuring landing gear a bit more complex.
1) My plane is a rebuild so a number of things are "preset".
2) The plane came with cub style gear and I am switching to straight axle.
3) It is an extended fuselage
4) I am shifting the LE back 4"
So, I'm trying to fit the landing gear within the 15-20 degree angle
of the CG mentioned in Bingelis (the yellow book).
I working off the LG drawings from the Flying and Glider manual as a side note.
Truthfully, I'm enjoying all the figuring and designing.
Kirk
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
>
>Kirk,
>Don't know the vertical CG, but per Bill Rewey at his Piet forums at
>Sun&Fun.
>No breaks, leave landing gear as per plans.
>With breaks, move axle forward 3".
>Skip
>
> >Just trying to figure out landing gear placment and this would help.
>
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| Subject: | Re: I'm a little bugged ( ironic follow-up) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Fw: Pietenpol-List: I'm a little bugged ( ironic follow-up)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> <snip>
>> So what are you going to charge yourself to do your condition inspections
> or hourly maintenance work ?
<snip>
>>
Figured I'd do it for a couple of free rides in the Piet.
walt
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS" <lnawms@msn.com>
A couple of days ago a new Pieter (?) wrote that he was getting started and was
located in the Orlando area. I'd like to get in touch with you if you could answer
this request directly, I'd appreciate it.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Selling some Piet stuff |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
Doug,
Did you find good homes for all your model "B" carbs & manifolds? and for
your Scout project??
Been clearing out of some of my older e-mails & thought I'd check with you
about this stuff! ;-)
Keep 'em Flying!
Mike C.
Pretty Prairie, KS
----- Original Message -----
From: <Doug413@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Selling some Piet stuff
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Doug413@aol.com
>
> Only one model B carb, three after market B's, one or two extra manifolds,
and a complete A engine ready for installation. Doug Bryant
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tenpol-List: |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
Sorry for sending my last message to everyone -- just a case of "fumble
fingers" ;-)
Mike C.
Pretty Prairie, KS
do not archive
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| Subject: | Subject: 'Twas the Night Before Christmas..... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
This is also a good one...
Subject: 'Twas the Night Before Christmas.....
'Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the ramp,
Not an airplane was stirring, not even a Champ.
The aircraft were fastened to tiedowns with care,
In hopes that come morning, they all would be there.
The fuel trucks were nestled, all snug in their spots,
With gusts from two-forty at 39 knots.
I slumped at the fuel desk, now finally caught up,
And settled down comfortably, resting my butt.
When the radio lit up with noise and with chatter,
I turned up the scanner to see what was the matter.
A voice clearly heard over static and snow,
Called for clearance to land at the airport below.
He barked his transmission so lively and quick,
I'd have sworn that the call sign he used was "St. Nick".
I ran to the panel to turn up the lights,
The better to welcome this magical flight.
He called his position, no room for denial,
"St. Nicholas One, turnin' left onto final."
And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a Rutan-built sleigh, with eight Rotax Reindeer!
With vectors to final, down the glideslope he came,
As he passed all fixes, he called them by name:
"Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now Trini and Bacun!
On Comet! On Cupid!" What pills was he takin'?
While controllers were sittin', and scratchin' their head,
They phoned to my office, and I heard it with dread,
The message they left was both urgent and dour:
"When Santa pulls in, have him please call the tower."
He landed like silk, with the sled runners sparking,
Then I heard "Left at Charlie," and "Taxi to parking."
He slowed to a taxi, turned off of three-oh
And stopped on the ramp with a "Ho, ho-ho-ho..."
He stepped out of the sleigh, but before he could talk,
I ran out to meet him with my best set of chocks.
His red helmet and goggles were covered with frost
And his beard was all blackened from Reindeer exhaust.
His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly stale,
And he puffed on a pipe, but he didn't inhale.
His cheeks were all rosy and jiggled like jelly,
His boots were as black as a cropduster's belly.
He was chubby and plump, in his suit of bright red,
And he asked me to "fill it, with hundred low-lead."
He came dashing in from the snow-covered pump,
I knew he was anxious for drainin' the sump.
I spoke not a word, but went straight to my work,
And I filled up the sleigh, but I spilled like a jerk.
He came out of the restroom, and sighed in relief,
Then he picked up a phone for a Flight Service brief.
And I thought as he silently scribed in his log,
These reindeer could land in an eighth-mile fog.
He completed his pre-flight, from the front to the rear,
Then he put on his headset, and I heard him yell, "Clear!"
And laying a finger on his push-to-talk,
He called up the tower for clearance and squawk.
"Take taxiway Charlie, the southbound direction,
Turn right three-two-zero at pilot's discretion"
He sped down the runway, the best of the best,
"Your traffic's a Commander, inbound from the west."
Then I heard him proclaim, as he climbed thru the night,
"Merry Christmas to all! I have traffic in sight."
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