---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/20/02: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - Re: Latest edition of ToFly! (Kent Hallsten) 2. 08:03 AM - Re:2002 EAA plate (catdesigns@juno.com) 3. 08:22 AM - Re: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing (John_Duprey@vmed.org) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: Re:2002 EAA plate (Craigo) 5. 12:33 PM - Re: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing (walter evans) 6. 01:29 PM - Re: Selling some Piet stuff (Greg Yotz) 7. 01:29 PM - Re: Selling some Piet stuff (Greg Yotz) 8. 01:38 PM - Re: Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... (Alex Sloan) 9. 01:46 PM - Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... (Michael D Cuy) 10. 03:22 PM - Re: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... (walter evans) 11. 03:26 PM - Re: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing (del magsam) 12. 06:29 PM - Re: Latest edition of ToFly! (clif) 13. 07:39 PM - Re: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... (John Dilatush) 14. 09:36 PM - Re: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... (Gary Gower) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:33 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Latest edition of ToFly! From: "Kent Hallsten" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten" Is ToFly! a Piet magazine? How can I get one? Kent > -----Original Message----- > From: clif [mailto:cdawson5854@shaw.ca] > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:41 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latest edition of ToFly! > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif > > Nope. 37/38 is article on windshield > construction applicable to piets. > do not archive. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:17 AM PST US Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate From: catdesigns@juno.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: catdesigns@juno.com So Larry who do you think was first to fly? I grew up near Grass Valley California where there was this guy named Limon Gilmore who played around with airplanes before the Wright brothers. The accounts I have heard is the planes were more advanced then the Wrights and he claimed to have flown before them. Bummer thig is all was lost in a hanger fire so there is no proof. There is a school built on his old airstrip now and it is named after him. Chris Sacramento CA Do not archive ---------- "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS" writes: From: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS" Oscar assumes that everyone buys into the myth that the 1902 flight by the Wright brothers was the first. Larry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:41 AM PST US From: John_Duprey@vmed.org Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing 12/20/2002 11:22:24 AM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John_Duprey@vmed.org Walt: Sorry to say only necessary flight crew. If you were willing you could let him solo, but otherwise any second pilot would still be a passenger. John Duprey ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:33 AM PST US From: "Craigo" Subject: Re: Re:Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craigo" On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, catdesigns@juno.com wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > catdesigns@juno.com > > So Larry who do you think was first to fly? > And, if you ask any European or South American, they will tell you that it was a Frenchman several years before the Wrights - of whom most have never heard! Craig Lake Worth, FL Bakeng Duce NX96CW PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:14 PM PST US From: "walter evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" John, Thanks. I had no intentions of anybody riding with me, just happened to think of it and start to wonder. You know how one can open up a discussion on one of the regs, and it becomes a free for all. walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John_Duprey@vmed.org > > > Walt: Sorry to say only necessary flight crew. If you were willing you > could let him solo, but otherwise any second pilot would still be a > passenger. > > John Duprey > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:22 PM PST US From: "Greg Yotz" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Selling some Piet stuff --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Yotz" Mike I have a model A engine, carb and mag I need to sell. The engine has been torn down and inspected but not converted yet and all parts are included. I also have an O-145 engine and engine mount for a Piet or GN-1 that I need to sell. If your interested I live over by Burlington, Ks. Greg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:22 PM PST US From: "Greg Yotz" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Selling some Piet stuff --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Yotz" Mike I have a model A engine, carb and mag I need to sell. The engine has been torn down and inspected but not converted yet and all parts are included. I also have an O-145 engine and engine mount for a Piet or GN-1 that I need to sell. If your interested I live over by Burlington, Ks. Greg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:45 PM PST US From: "Alex Sloan" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" Matt, Sorry to have bothered you with this letter as it did not work and I had 1,113 E-mails waiting for me when I returned. Alex Sloan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Sloan" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" > > Matt, > Please unsubscribe me for a short time. I had to go out of town for 4 weeks > and my computer is holding 1,200 E-mails for me. I will resubscribe once I > get caught up. > Thanks, > Alex Sloan > alexms1@bellsouth.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Dralle" > To: > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > A couple of people have written asking what the shipping status was of > > their free List Contribution Gifts. Seemed like some status was in order > > and I thought I detail where we're at... > > > > > > Flight Bag Requests > > ------------------- > > > > On 11/20/02 I shipped out the first batch of Flight Bag-Only (FBO) gift > > requests. I shipped all FBO gift requests I had received from 11/1 to > > 11/19 except for 3 (Sorry guys!) - I ran out of my first shipment flight > > bags! Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com > > ) is supplying me with another batch flight bags which should arrive in > > about 2 weeks. > > > > By the way, these are REALLY nice Flight Bags. Extremely well built and > > very professional looking. Folds down into a very small size, but will > > hold a huge amount of stuff. If you fly, and you've got a lot of stuff, > > they you WANT one of these guys. Surf over to the List Contribution page > > for details on how to get one of your own!!! > > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > The Flight Bags have been shipped out US Mail Parcel Post in a large, and > I > > mean LARGE, padded white plastic envelope. According to the Post Office, > > worse case delivery time would be 8 days to destinations on the East > Coast, > > but indicated it would likely take a lot less time. > > > > > > Archive CDROM Requests > > ---------------------- > > > > The Archive CDROMs will be mastered and burned on or about December 1 and > > should ship out shortly there after. Shipping will be US Mail, Media Rate > > in a big padded white envelope. The Archive List data included will be up > > to November 30th. > > > > > > Flight Bag and Archive CDROM Requests > > ------------------------------------- > > > > These combination orders will ship out when the Archive CDROMs are > complete > > as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and > > the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded > envelope! > > > > > > Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing > > these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone > > way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this > > year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his > web > > site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some > > very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com > > > > And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a > > Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly > > appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a > > great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this > > year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying > > Contribution!!! > > > > List Contribution Site: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution/ > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > Matt Dralle > > Email List Administrator > > > > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > > > > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > > > Benjamin Franklin > > Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:29 PM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Walt----not one to break any FAA regulations, but one night I had this dream. I had about 15 hours on my Piet and my girlfriend at the time, who helped me quite a bit here and there with the project, said she wanted to be my first passenger. So in this dream I flew the plane to a private grass strip about 10 minutes away and she met me there by car. I felt at the time that the plane was quite safe and that I was comfortable to give a ride on a nice, calm, wind-free, sunny June day towards sunset. We went around this small airport for about a 20 minute ride and I landed so she could drive home to meet me at my home field. Just dreaming of a White Christmas now though:)))) Mike C. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:41 PM PST US From: "walter evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" Mike, I hear exactly what you are saying. Sometimes I hear my self saying (even though I've gotten my self to this point with the work of my own hands, and alot of hours as a "mole" in the workshop, comming out while doing some intricate part, only to find a beautiful July afternoon.) " I can't believe I'm flying in this thing, this is too good to be true." I think that most builders, because they enjoy the process so much,,,Don't think they deserve what they are getting in the rewards. There is nothing to compare with being up above,,,and looking down,( with the orange sky off to the side, and the air is still). I'm not a "religious" person,,,but I know there is a higher 'plateau', not sure what it is, but know it's there. Ain't life grand??? walt NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > Walt----not one to break any FAA regulations, but one night I had this > dream. I had about 15 hours on my Piet > and my girlfriend at the time, who helped me quite a bit here and there > with the project, said she wanted to be my > first passenger. So in this dream I flew the plane to a private grass strip > about 10 minutes away and she met me there > by car. I felt at the time that the plane was quite safe and that I was > comfortable to give a ride on a nice, calm, wind-free, > sunny June day towards sunset. We went around this small airport for > about a 20 minute ride and I landed so she could > drive home to meet me at my home field. Just dreaming of a White > Christmas now though:)))) > > Mike C. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:18 PM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: a question on reg's to get the winter juices flowing --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: del magsam If you need help flying it, then he would be necessary flight crew. he would be necessary for safe flight. This is not from me. its from the local FAA. Del --- John_Duprey@vmed.org wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > John_Duprey@vmed.org > > > Walt: Sorry to say only necessary flight crew. If > you were willing you > could let him solo, but otherwise any second pilot > would still be a > passenger. > > John Duprey > > > > Click on the > this > generous > _-> > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > latest messages. > List members. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm > Digests:http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > ===== Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:33 PM PST US From: clif Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latest edition of ToFly! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif A grass roots Association and mag by Paul Poberezny. Lots of Piet stuff already but not exclusively so. Idea is to get back to what the EAA once was. www.sportaviation.org Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Hallsten" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Latest edition of ToFly! > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten" > > Is ToFly! a Piet magazine? How can I get one? > > Kent > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: clif [mailto:cdawson5854@shaw.ca] > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:41 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Latest edition of ToFly! > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif > > > > Nope. 37/38 is article on windshield > > construction applicable to piets. > > do not archive. > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:40 PM PST US From: "John Dilatush" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mike, My gosh, what a coincidence, I have almost the same kind of a dream! John +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Walt----not one to break any FAA regulations, but one night I had this > dream. I had about 15 hours on my Piet > and my girlfriend at the time, who helped me quite a bit here and there > with the project, said she wanted to be my > first passenger. So in this dream I flew the plane to a private grass strip > about 10 minutes away and she met me there > by car. I felt at the time that the plane was quite safe and that I was > comfortable to give a ride on a nice, calm, wind-free, > sunny June day towards sunset. We went around this small airport for > about a 20 minute ride and I landed so she could > drive home to meet me at my home field. Just dreaming of a White > Christmas now though:)))) > > Mike C. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:40 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower Is better to dream a mile high flight... ;-) Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive :-) --- John Dilatush wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael D Cuy" > To: > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might > have > had........... > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Mike, > > My gosh, what a coincidence, I have almost the same kind of a dream! > > John > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Walt----not one to break any FAA regulations, but one night I had > this > > dream. I had about 15 hours on my Piet > > and my girlfriend at the time, who helped me quite a bit here and > there > > with the project, said she wanted to be my > > first passenger. So in this dream I flew the plane to a private > grass > strip > > about 10 minutes away and she met me there > > by car. I felt at the time that the plane was quite safe and that > I was > > comfortable to give a ride on a nice, calm, wind-free, > > sunny June day towards sunset. We went around this small airport > for > > about a 20 minute ride and I landed so she could > > drive home to meet me at my home field. Just dreaming of a White > > Christmas now though:)))) > > > > Mike C. > > > > > > > > _-> > > > > > >