---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/21/02: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:22 AM - Interesting item on eBay web site item#1874964126: cougar 1 kit (bobka@charter.net) 2. 03:44 PM - Re: Re:2002 EAA plate (clif) 3. 06:38 PM - T-88 Glue (Ron Butcher) 4. 07:39 PM - Re: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... (Richard Navratril) 5. 09:10 PM - Re: 2002 EAA plate (Richard L. Dery) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:41 AM PST US From: bobka@charter.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1874964126: cougar 1 kit --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: bobka@charter.net Look guys, this even has a complete C-85 with it and it going pretty cheap right now. chris bobka Title of item: cougar 1 kit Seller: unlimitedcache Starts: Dec-15-02 10:34:09 PST Ends: Dec-25-02 10:34:09 PST Price: Currently $805.01 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874964126 Item Description: cougar 1 kit Vehicle Description HOMEBUILT COPY!! Cougar 1 copy of a wittman tailwind approximately 25 years old. Ran well when disassembled approximately 10 years ago. It has a continental C 85-12 engine. Needs some welding on frame. May need some parts. sold AS IS. Buyer pays for shipping ( Ashland, Oregon 97520) Call John (541) 915-1616 to get an idea of what you are buying go to http://www.homebuilt.org/ On Dec-16-02 at 00:06:49 PST, seller added the following information: After purchasing, pay instantly with your credit card through PayPal! function dw(nu){document.write(s1+"ppslv"+nu+".gif"+s2);} f1="document.links"; s1="\"; c1=c2=c3=c4=0; for(i=0;i=0){c1++;}else if(((document.links[i].search)).indexOf("BetterSeller")=0){c2++;}else if((((document.links[i].search)).indexOf("ListItemForSaleShow")=0)||(((document.links[i].search)).indexOf("ListItemForSaleAutosShow")=0)){c3++;}else if((((document.links[i].hash)).indexOf("ListItemForSaleShow")=0)||(((document.links[i].hash)).indexOf("ListItemForSaleAutosShow")=0)){c4++;}}} if((c1=2)||(c20)||(c30)||(c40)){dw(3);}else{dw(2);} f11="xclick-auction";f13="iid=";f14=""; for(i=0;i0){s11=document.links[i].search;j=s11.indexOf(f13);if(j0){s11=s11.slice((j+(f13.length)));for(k=0;k=0){var p=new Array();p[0]=document.links[i].protocol;p[1]=document.links[i].hostname;p[2]=document.links[i].pathname;for(j=0;j ") On Dec-17-02 at 19:12:49 PST, seller added the following information: airplane cowel is fiberglass, doors are aluminum, wings are plywood and fabric, body skin is fabric, frame 4130 steel tubing, engine has 470 hours. Log book and plans available. i will have a picture in a few. please email me for it. Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:51 PM PST US From: clif Subject: Re: Re:Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif Like all such breakthroughs in history, there were many people and organizations working parallel towards the same goal. Many of them were just as smart and worked just as hard as the Wrights. The Wrights came up with the right control system, the right engine, the right airfoil etc. at the right time. They also had the newspaper and photographic documentation, albeit very slim. What if that AC had crashed on that day? This is an extremely likely outcome of such a flight. That would have set them back an entire year if it was serious enough. One of the others would have filled the void in that time. They were close, very close. the Wrights were intelligent, hardworking, insightfull men who deserve their place in history. Just don't discount the others as loser also rans. They don't deserve it. I must admit though, it's nice to see a couple of shadetree homebuilders beat out the likes of Bell et al, with all their money, education and backing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craigo" Subject: Re: Re:Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craigo" > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, catdesigns@juno.com wrote: > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > > catdesigns@juno.com > > > > So Larry who do you think was first to fly? > > > And, if you ask any European or South American, they > will tell you that it was a Frenchman several years > before the Wrights - of whom most have never heard! > > Craig > Lake Worth, FL > Bakeng Duce NX96CW > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:08 PM PST US From: "Ron Butcher" Subject: Pietenpol-List: T-88 Glue --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ron Butcher" Hello all! For the record, T-88 glue is simply outstanding for making wooden Christmas presents!! Hally Holidays! Ron Butcher ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:54 PM PST US From: "Richard Navratril" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratril" Mike Isn't there a small referance to this dream in your video? Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D Cuy" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying your time off....and a dream I might have had........... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > Walt----not one to break any FAA regulations, but one night I had this > dream. I had about 15 hours on my Piet > and my girlfriend at the time, who helped me quite a bit here and there > with the project, said she wanted to be my > first passenger. So in this dream I flew the plane to a private grass strip > about 10 minutes away and she met me there > by car. I felt at the time that the plane was quite safe and that I was > comfortable to give a ride on a nice, calm, wind-free, > sunny June day towards sunset. We went around this small airport for > about a 20 minute ride and I landed so she could > drive home to meet me at my home field. Just dreaming of a White > Christmas now though:)))) > > Mike C. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:34 PM PST US From: "Richard L. Dery" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 2002 EAA plate --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard L. Dery" clif wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif > > What if that AC had crashed on that day? > This is an extremely likely outcome of > such a flight. > I visited Kill Devil Hill about 25 years ago. There were historical markers that indicated that the Wright Brothers made four flights that day, and the plane did crash at the conclusion of the fourth flight.