---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/14/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: Wicker seats (Gadd, Skip) 2. 07:59 AM - Gap Seal (Ken Rickards) 3. 10:33 AM - Request for info (Greg Cardinal) 4. 03:50 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 01/13/03 (ANNCARLEK@aol.com) 5. 04:13 PM - brake parts for piper cub wheels (Les Schubert) 6. 04:40 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (Christian Bobka) 7. 04:46 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (Cy Galley) 8. 05:35 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les Schubert). (Graham Hansen) 9. 06:13 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les (Les Schubert) 10. 06:20 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les Schubert). (ZigoDan@aol.com) 11. 08:07 PM - Re: brake parts for piper cub wheels (Gene Rambo) 12. 08:28 PM - Re: Continental 65 (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:56 AM PST US From: "Gadd, Skip" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wicker seats --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" Don, Don't forget you have to stand on the seat to get into the plane. Skip >I'd like to consider wicker seats in my Piet, but cannot find anyone >who makes them. Does anyone know of anyone that does this sort of work? >Thanks for your help. Don Cooley ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:07 AM PST US From: Ken Rickards Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gap Seal --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards Hey DJ. I was just on your web site viewing your solution for the aileron gap seal. I must say, very cool. How do you plan on attaching the various pieces. As you are ahead of me with your project, I would like to know how this turns out. Do you have plans made up for this yet? Ken Ken Rickards Cole Vision Canada 80 Centurion Drive, Markham, Ontario. L3R 8C1 tel 905-940-8675 ext 237 krickards@CVCI.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:46 AM PST US From: "Greg Cardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Request for info --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Cardinal" Larry Williams, Please contact me off the list. I need your mailing address. Greg Cardinal in Minneapolis ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:36 PM PST US From: ANNCARLEK@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 01/13/03 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/03 11:57:34 PM, pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com writes: << message posted by: "Graham Hansen" >> My 71 pounds was for the extended fuselage, too, but unvarnished. All the wood parts were there. Douglas Fir And Basswood ply. I tried to build it light, and maybe it doesn't need to be spruce. Carl at Compton Airport ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:23 PM PST US From: Les Schubert Subject: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert Just purchased a partly built Piet project on the weekend with Piper cub (I think?) 8.00x4 wheels and tires and brakes. The brakes are the kind with the inflatable expanding bladder. I have started to look for repair parts for the brakes. It seems that aircraft spruce doesn't carry brake parts for these brakes. Does somebody know where I can get some or should I abandon that idea and work on converting them to some kind of disc brakes. I want to use the wheels as they are nice with a good pair of tires and they fit the under carriage that came with it. I don't have master cylinders but I see they are quite simple diaphragm affairs so i can probably make those if I can find any. Help please Les ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:47 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" Try Univair. chris bobka -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Les Schubert Subject: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert Just purchased a partly built Piet project on the weekend with Piper cub (I think?) 8.00x4 wheels and tires and brakes. The brakes are the kind with the inflatable expanding bladder. I have started to look for repair parts for the brakes. It seems that aircraft spruce doesn't carry brake parts for these brakes. Does somebody know where I can get some or should I abandon that idea and work on converting them to some kind of disc brakes. I want to use the wheels as they are nice with a good pair of tires and they fit the under carriage that came with it. I don't have master cylinders but I see they are quite simple diaphragm affairs so i can probably make those if I can find any. Help please Les ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:55 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Your best bet for brake parts is Jim Greene at 770446-5797 He has parts for most of the old brakes. You are going to find it difficult to find the expander tubes but he may have or know of a source. Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com We support Aeroncas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Schubert" Subject: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert > > Just purchased a partly built Piet project on the weekend with Piper cub (I > think?) 8.00x4 wheels and tires and brakes. > The brakes are the kind with the inflatable expanding bladder. > I have started to look for repair parts for the brakes. It seems that > aircraft spruce doesn't carry brake parts for these brakes. Does somebody > know where I can get some or should I abandon that idea and work on > converting them to some kind of disc brakes. I want to use the wheels as > they are nice with a good pair of tires and they fit the under carriage > that came with it. I don't have master cylinders but I see they are quite > simple diaphragm affairs so i can probably make those if I can find any. > Help please > Les > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:40 PM PST US From: "Graham Hansen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les Schubert). --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" Les, Parts for these brakes are terribly expensive, and some are scarce. A suggestion: Check the go-cart stuff and you may find something. I "inherited" a pair of mechanical shoe-type brakes that had been put together for the 8.00 x 4 brake drums you have, but gave them to someone (can't remember who) when we were moving 5 1/2 years ago. The steel back plate bolted directly onto the Cub brake flange and a lever turned a cam to spread the shoes apart. The shoes were of cast metal (Monel?) with neat linings riveted to them. I was told they were go-cart parts. All the pieces were home-made except for the shoes. They were installed on a Jodel D11 built by a friend who used them for several years before changing to 6 inch wheels and aircraft brakes. They would work fine on a Pietenpol and you could make a similar set of mechanical brakes, I'm sure. So there is a precedent for getting around the Cub-type brake pro- blem---and you wouldn't need master cylinders, either. Graham ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:54 PM PST US From: Les Schubert Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les Schubert). --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert Graham I was beginning to think that might be the solution. I was also looking at some mechanical disc brake calipers that I saw at Princess Auto. They are for gocart and made by Airheart. les At 06:31 PM 14/01/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" > >Les, > >Parts for these brakes are terribly expensive, and some are scarce. > >A suggestion: Check the go-cart stuff and you may find something. >I "inherited" a pair of mechanical shoe-type brakes that had been >put together for the 8.00 x 4 brake drums you have, but gave them >to someone (can't remember who) when we were moving 5 1/2 >years ago. > >The steel back plate bolted directly onto the Cub brake flange and >a lever turned a cam to spread the shoes apart. The shoes were of >cast metal (Monel?) with neat linings riveted to them. I was told they >were go-cart parts. All the pieces were home-made except for the >shoes. They were installed on a Jodel D11 built by a friend who used >them for several years before changing to 6 inch wheels and aircraft >brakes. They would work fine on a Pietenpol and you could make a >similar set of mechanical brakes, I'm sure. > >So there is a precedent for getting around the Cub-type brake pro- >blem---and you wouldn't need master cylinders, either. > >Graham > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:15 PM PST US From: ZigoDan@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels (from Les Schubert). --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ZigoDan@aol.com Les, Try this web site they have a lot of brake parts. http://www.cometkartsales.com The kind that were mentioned to you sound a lot like Asuza wheel & brake parts, check out your AS book for them. I believe they make four inch brake. They probable would not hold for a run up, but work for taxing. Good luck! Dan ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:56 PM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" There are sources for the cub style brakes, and they are terrific brakes, don't give up on them just yet . . . Gene Rambo do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Schubert Subject: Pietenpol-List: brake parts for piper cub wheels > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Les Schubert > > Just purchased a partly built Piet project on the weekend with Piper cub (I > think?) 8.00x4 wheels and tires and brakes. > The brakes are the kind with the inflatable expanding bladder. > I have started to look for repair parts for the brakes. It seems that > aircraft spruce doesn't carry brake parts for these brakes. Does somebody > know where I can get some or should I abandon that idea and work on > converting them to some kind of disc brakes. I want to use the wheels as > they are nice with a good pair of tires and they fit the under carriage > that came with it. I don't have master cylinders but I see they are quite > simple diaphragm affairs so i can probably make those if I can find any. > Help please > Les > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:09 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Continental 65 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/03 7:25:49 PM Central Standard Time, leskarin@telus.net writes: << I am not trying to scare any one just don't think that hard chrome is like bumper chrome. It is not. >> Les, I talked with them today, and the process on the cylinders is called 'Channel Chrome'. They are the ones that told me it will not corrode. My cylinders are done, and they are sending 'em off for the head work. Chuck