Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:05 AM - Web Site Update (Ken Rickards)
2. 07:08 AM - Wing LE & Landing gear placement (Michael D Cuy)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: Web Site Update (DJ Vegh)
4. 08:09 AM - Re: Web Site Update (Ken Rickards)
5. 11:47 AM - Wicks Catalog Online (Michael D Cuy)
6. 12:22 PM - Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement (walter evans)
7. 12:45 PM - Walt wins the AWARD for light Piet !!!!! (Michael D Cuy)
8. 01:17 PM - Re: Walt wins the AWARD for light Piet !!!!! (walter evans)
9. 01:42 PM - Model-A engine, Southern Illinois (Robert Haines)
10. 02:57 PM - Re: Fittings (Ian Holland)
11. 03:21 PM - Re: Fittings (DJ Vegh)
12. 06:01 PM - Re: Fittings (Hubbard, Eugene)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards <krickards@cvci.com>
Just updated my web site. Finished the Vertical Fin and Rudder this weekend
and glued up my first elevator. I'm still making wing ribs, mainly pre
cutting gussets. Both elevators should be finished within the next couple
of weeks, then it's on to the Horizontal Stab. If the gods are with me I
get to pick up my engine this week, that's when I will have lots of
questions for you Corvair owners.
Slowly but surely, my workshop is starting to look like I'm building a
plane.
http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Fin.htm
Ken
GN1 2992
krickards@CVCI.com
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| Subject: | Wing LE & Landing gear placement |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
>Mike,
>Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where the
>front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This would be
>most helpful for all people no matter which version they were building.
Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind the
firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage
being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer 1966
version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and
landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does
not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft of the
fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of vertical
with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the wing in
a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, tail
weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different Piets w/
3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his wing
back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and thin
Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so
gotta pick the number that puts your CG right.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Web Site Update |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I remember the fin/rudder/elevator days.... you just can't have enough
spring clamps!!
DJ Vegh
N74DV
imagedv.com/aircamper
Mesa, AZ
GN-1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Rickards" <krickards@cvci.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards <krickards@cvci.com>
>
>
> Just updated my web site. Finished the Vertical Fin and Rudder this
weekend
> and glued up my first elevator. I'm still making wing ribs, mainly pre
> cutting gussets. Both elevators should be finished within the next couple
> of weeks, then it's on to the Horizontal Stab. If the gods are with me I
> get to pick up my engine this week, that's when I will have lots of
> questions for you Corvair owners.
>
> Slowly but surely, my workshop is starting to look like I'm building a
> plane.
>
> http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Fin.htm
>
> Ken
>
> GN1 2992
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards <krickards@cvci.com>
The nice thing about building these parts is the almost instant
gratification you get, when it all goes together as planned and a day later
you have something that looks like it belongs on a plane. A definite mental
boost, when you have been building wing ribs for so long!!
Ken
GN1 2992
-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Vegh [mailto:aircamper@imagedv.com]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I remember the fin/rudder/elevator days.... you just can't have enough
spring clamps!!
DJ Vegh
N74DV
imagedv.com/aircamper
Mesa, AZ
GN-1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Rickards" <krickards@cvci.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards <krickards@cvci.com>
>
>
> Just updated my web site. Finished the Vertical Fin and Rudder this
weekend
> and glued up my first elevator. I'm still making wing ribs, mainly pre
> cutting gussets. Both elevators should be finished within the next couple
> of weeks, then it's on to the Horizontal Stab. If the gods are with me I
> get to pick up my engine this week, that's when I will have lots of
> questions for you Corvair owners.
>
> Slowly but surely, my workshop is starting to look like I'm building a
> plane.
>
> http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Fin.htm
>
> Ken
>
> GN1 2992
>
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| Subject: | Wicks Catalog Online |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Group-- I just had to order some misc. items and found the Wicks Catalog on
line. If you go to catalog index you can look up what you need
alphabetically and see pics, description, and prices. Even if you don't
want or need to order anything, this is a good place to look-up items,
price them out, and in general to do material research. Neat site. I
need to replace the bungee cords this year so got on their web site to
check it out. If you are concerned about ordering over your computer you
can just print out your order and phone it in too at the 800 number. Good
stuff.
Mike C.
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net>
Ted,
I can add that with long fuse, A-65, engine mount extended almost 2", and me
at 210#, I had to move back the wing 3".
595# empty weight ( built right to plans).
walt
11 hours down and 14 to go.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>
> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau"
<nfn00979@naples.net>
> >Mike,
> >Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where the
> >front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This would
be
> >most helpful for all people no matter which version they were building.
>
> Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind the
> firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage
> being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer 1966
> version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and
> landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does
> not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft of
the
> fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of
vertical
> with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the wing
in
> a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, tail
> weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different Piets
w/
> 3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his wing
> back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and thin
> Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so
> gotta pick the number that puts your CG right.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Walt wins the AWARD for light Piet !!!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Man, Walt you are da man ! Empty Wt. of 595 pounds !!!!! Holy moly,
that is fantastic. Looks like
you'll be able to take an actual full size adult with you for rides this
summer even on warm days. Great !
I ended up at 632 lbs. See--that adds up what you said about you moved
your Cont. engine out 2" and the wing back 3". I moved
my engine out only 1" over plans so had to go 4" back on the wing. Too
look at our numbers I would now
build an engine mount at 3" over plans and not have to move my wing back as
far. Either way, they spell FUN.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Walt wins the AWARD for light Piet !!!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net>
Mike,
guess using 1.7 oz fabric and using Poly Fiber had something to do with it.
Still climbs like a rocket.
walt
writing this with aching cheeks from smiling all week
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Walt wins the AWARD for light Piet !!!!!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Man, Walt you are da man ! Empty Wt. of 595 pounds !!!!! Holy moly,
> that is fantastic. Looks like
> you'll be able to take an actual full size adult with you for rides this
> summer even on warm days. Great !
> I ended up at 632 lbs. See--that adds up what you said about you moved
> your Cont. engine out 2" and the wing back 3". I moved
> my engine out only 1" over plans so had to go 4" back on the wing. Too
> look at our numbers I would now
> build an engine mount at 3" over plans and not have to move my wing back
as
> far. Either way, they spell FUN.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Model-A engine, Southern Illinois |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
For Sale or Trade - Model A engine, disassembled...
A few years ago I bought a Model-A engine for $300 from a guy who was
getting out of his car hobby. I got an engine with everything needed for a
conversion and I was going to put it in a Corbin Super Ace. Things like
transmission bell and exhaust manifold weren't included but the carb, intake
manifold, waterpump, etc. are. I stopped construction of the Super Ace
realizing I started the wrong project and there the engine sat. Regardless,
out of boredom, I took the engine apart a few months ago.
It seems to be a decent engine, but I have to assume that it had a problem
with the number two cylinder because that cylinder is sleeved. Also, the
two water jacket holes adjacent to that cylinder has a crack stopped by
drilling at the end of the crack and inserting a plug. It's fairly small
and seems to be a quality repair. I don't know if this would be detremental
to a rebuild since a rebore would be in order anyway and the crack is small
and repaired. I would appreciate input from the group.
Anyway, it's taking up space in the garage and I'm not going to use it, so
if anyone in the neighborhood is interested, let me know. It's currently
disassembled with all parts organized or otherwise tagged.
Robert Haines
Du Quoin, Illinois (on highway 51 south of Interstate 64)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ian Holland" <iholland@telusplanet.net>
I hope that when you laid out the templates for the CNC that you
lengthened some of the parts where appropriate. If you did not, then
you are going to have a whole bunch that just will not fit. I learned
the hard way and allowed generally 1/2 inch extra on the connector
holes. Not all need it, but try with a cardboard template first to see
if you can in fact get the bolt clearance needed.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I don't quite understand what you mean... can you elaborate?
DJ Vegh
N74DV
www.raptoronline.com
Mesa, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Holland" <iholland@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ian Holland"
<iholland@telusplanet.net>
>
> I hope that when you laid out the templates for the CNC that you
> lengthened some of the parts where appropriate. If you did not, then
> you are going to have a whole bunch that just will not fit. I learned
> the hard way and allowed generally 1/2 inch extra on the connector
> holes. Not all need it, but try with a cardboard template first to see
> if you can in fact get the bolt clearance needed.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" <ehubbard@titan.com>
BHP is sort of notorious for not leaving clearance between his bolt heads
and the rest of the structure. This may not (probably doesn't) apply to the
GN-1 plans.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Vegh [mailto:aircamper@imagedv.com]
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I don't quite understand what you mean... can you elaborate?
DJ Vegh
N74DV
www.raptoronline.com
Mesa, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Holland" <iholland@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fittings
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ian Holland"
<iholland@telusplanet.net>
>
> I hope that when you laid out the templates for the CNC that you
> lengthened some of the parts where appropriate. If you did not, then
> you are going to have a whole bunch that just will not fit. I learned
> the hard way and allowed generally 1/2 inch extra on the connector
> holes. Not all need it, but try with a cardboard template first to see
> if you can in fact get the bolt clearance needed.
>
>
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