Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/23/03


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:21 AM - Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement (Gene Rambo)
     2. 06:31 AM - Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement (John Dilatush)
     3. 10:41 AM - Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement (rambog@erols.com)
     4. 01:25 PM - Re: Aileron Hinges (walter evans)
     5. 01:58 PM - Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement (Cy Galley)
     6. 03:13 PM - Wing tank level sight guage... (Oscar Zuniga)
     7. 03:28 PM - Re: Aileron Hinges (Hubbard, Eugene)
     8. 06:02 PM - Re: Wing tank level sight guage.... (Richard Navratril)
     9. 10:00 PM - Laser cut GN-1 parts available - please respond if you need any. (DJ Vegh)
    10. 11:01 PM - Re: Laser cut GN-1 parts available - please respond if you need any. (Gary McNeel)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:21:09 AM PST US
    From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> NO, no, ash is strong but brittle! Use spruce. Gene do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > > Thanks Mike, > > One more question on landing gear. What wood did you use for the landing > gear struts? Plans call for spruce. I am inclined to use ash. > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > >Mike, > > >Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where the > > >front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This would > be > > >most helpful for all people no matter which version they were building. > > > > Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind the > > firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage > > being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer 1966 > > version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and > > landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does > > not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft of > the > > fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of > vertical > > with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the wing > in > > a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, tail > > weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different Piets > w/ > > 3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his wing > > back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and thin > > Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so > > gotta pick the number that puts your CG right. > > > > Mike C. > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:31:38 AM PST US
    From: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement ++++++++++++++++++ Gene, I used Ash and laminated two 1/2" pieces together to make the legs of my straight axle gear. The reason for using ash was the fact that it is commonly used in axe handles and extremely resiliant to shock loads. Two off runway excursions by me (due to my "superior piloting" skills!) through rough buffalo grass intersperced with gopher holes and cow pies at 30 mph,has shown that the gear holds up very well to this kind of a stress test. I highly recomend the use of ash, it certainly saved mine! John ++++++++++++++++++++ > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > NO, no, ash is strong but brittle! Use spruce. > > Gene > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > > Thanks Mike, > > > > One more question on landing gear. What wood did you use for the landing > > gear struts? Plans call for spruce. I am inclined to use ash. > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > > > > > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > >Mike, > > > >Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where the > > > >front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This > would > > be > > > >most helpful for all people no matter which version they were building. > > > > > > Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind the > > > firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage > > > being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer > 1966 > > > version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and > > > landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does > > > not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft of > > the > > > fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of > > vertical > > > with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the wing > > in > > > a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, tail > > > weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different Piets > > w/ > > > 3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his > wing > > > back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and > thin > > > Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so > > > gotta pick the number that puts your CG right. > > > > > > Mike C. > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:41:52 AM PST US
    From: "rambog@erols.com" <rambog@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com" <rambog@erols.com> One visit to a major league ball game should give you an idea of the shock load capacity of ash, I saw four or five broken bats in one Yankees game a couple of weeks ago. While your gear is undoubtedly strong, spruce is still more resiliant and, I'll bet, would take a bending side load without breaking. Gene do not archive Original Message: ----------------- From: John Dilatush dilatush@amigo.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement ++++++++++++++++++ Gene, I used Ash and laminated two 1/2" pieces together to make the legs of my straight axle gear. The reason for using ash was the fact that it is commonly used in axe handles and extremely resiliant to shock loads. Two off runway excursions by me (due to my "superior piloting" skills!) through rough buffalo grass intersperced with gopher holes and cow pies at 30 mph,has shown that the gear holds up very well to this kind of a stress test. I highly recomend the use of ash, it certainly saved mine! John ++++++++++++++++++++ > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > NO, no, ash is strong but brittle! Use spruce. > > Gene > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > > Thanks Mike, > > > > One more question on landing gear. What wood did you use for the landing > > gear struts? Plans call for spruce. I am inclined to use ash. > > > > Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > > > > > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > >Mike, > > > >Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where the > > > >front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This > would > > be > > > >most helpful for all people no matter which version they were building. > > > > > > Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind the > > > firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage > > > being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer > 1966 > > > version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and > > > landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does > > > not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft of > > the > > > fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of > > vertical > > > with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the wing > > in > > > a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, tail > > > weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different Piets > > w/ > > > 3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his > wing > > > back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and > thin > > > Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so > > > gotta pick the number that puts your CG right. > > > > > > Mike C. > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:25:42 PM PST US
    From: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: Aileron Hinges
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net> Alex, Mine are aluminum from AS&S. Not the super duper forged ones just the cheaper aircraft type. If hinges from an outhouse is OK, I figure these are fine. Used similar on a Fisher, and they gave good service. walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net> > > Walt, > Are your hinges aluminum or steel? > Alex Sloan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "walter evans" <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" > <wbeevans@worldnet.att.net> > > > > Barry, > > I second this. Just have 11 hours on my Piet, and very happy with the > piano > > hinges. I too bought the strap "barn door" hinges, but just couldn't > bring > > myself to use them. Here is one of the very few changes I made from the > > original plans. > > I did have a big concern to a fact that was brought up during an earlier > > discussion on this. that the long hinge would bind during normal wing > > deflection. Where the wing is not flat but curved up at the tip during a > > steep turn. But up till now haven't run into that condition. I'm very > > satisfied with the Pianos. > > walt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" <bike.mike@verizon.net> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mike <bike.mike@verizon.net> > > > > > > Barry, > > > > > > For non-flimsy piano hinges (extruded and very robust), go to > > > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/mepages/pianohinge.php > > > > > > Besides being stronger and easier to align than three or four strap > > hinges, > > > piano hinges offer the extra benefit of effectively sealing the aileron > > gap > > > which provides better aileron response, especially at low speed. > > > There are other online sources besides AS&S. > > > > > > on 4/22/03 12:40, Barry Davis at bed@mindspring.com wrote: > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" > <bed@mindspring.com> > > > > > > > > We are trying to decide between strap hinges as shown on the plans or > > piano > > > > hinges. We went to a fameous Home stuff superstore and loked at the > > piano > > > > hinges, flimsly. The strap hinges looked ok, but were hot dip > > gavalinazed, > > > > can't weld. What is a Piet builder to do? Are there any sources for 3" > > strap > > > > hinges that are not plated? > > > > Barry Davis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:58:08 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Wing LE & Landing gear placement
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> If spruce was that great at resisting loads, hammer handles would be made of Spruce. Ash is much stronger but it is heavier. Many wing tip bows are made of ash as it can be bend and still retain it strength. The harness trees of wagons are made of ash for the same reason. Cy Galley - MVR-AACA www.aaca.org/mvr ----- Original Message ----- From: <rambog@erols.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com" <rambog@erols.com> > > One visit to a major league ball game should give you an idea of the shock > load capacity of ash, I saw four or five broken bats in one Yankees game a > couple of weeks ago. While your gear is undoubtedly strong, spruce is > still more resiliant and, I'll bet, would take a bending side load without > breaking. > > Gene > do not archive > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: John Dilatush dilatush@amigo.net > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:25:45 -0600 > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > ++++++++++++++++++ > Gene, > > I used Ash and laminated two 1/2" pieces together to make the legs of my > straight axle gear. The reason for using ash was the fact that it is > commonly used in axe handles and extremely resiliant to shock loads. > > Two off runway excursions by me (due to my "superior piloting" skills!) > through rough buffalo grass intersperced with gopher holes and cow pies at > 30 mph,has shown that the gear holds up very well to this kind of a stress > test. > > I highly recomend the use of ash, it certainly saved mine! > > John > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > > > NO, no, ash is strong but brittle! Use spruce. > > > > Gene > > do not archive > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > > > > Thanks Mike, > > > > > > One more question on landing gear. What wood did you use for the > landing > > > gear struts? Plans call for spruce. I am inclined to use ash. > > > > > > Ted > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing LE & Landing gear placement > > > > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > > > > > > > > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" > > > <nfn00979@naples.net> > > > > >Mike, > > > > >Thanks for that info on placement of the gear. Could you add where > the > > > > >front of the wing, or CG falls in relation to the fire wall? This > > would > > > be > > > > >most helpful for all people no matter which version they were > building. > > > > > > > > Ted- I confirmed over the weekend that my axle is exactly 20" behind > the > > > > firewall (just like Sky Gypsy) but with my fuselage > > > > being the shorter 1933 version and Frank's Sky Gypsy being the longer > > 1966 > > > > version. Both handle just fine on the ground and during takeoff and > > > > landing with this gear placement. I use brakes, Frank does > > > > not. (tailskid) I'd have to go back out and measure my wing LE aft > of > > > the > > > > fuselage but I can tell you that my wing is slanted back 4" aft of > > > vertical > > > > with regard to the cabane upright struts. We all have to place the > wing > > > in > > > > a position that suites our needs best--engine choice, pilot weight, > tail > > > > weight, etc. Even among the 65 Cont. crowd I can cite 3 different > Piets > > > w/ > > > > 3 different wing slant-back measurements. Steve E. in Utah has his > > wing > > > > back SIX inches. He's bigger than me by a bit. Mine is 4" aft, and > > thin > > > > Frank w/ no tailwheel has his wing back something like 2.5 or 3"....so > > > > gotta pick the number that puts your CG right. > > > > > > > > Mike C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:13:07 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Wing tank level sight guage...
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Jim writes- >The one he showed me is made of brass and looks like a perfect >solution! I'm going to make mine, but if anyone is interested, >here's what he recommended: Top Vented Guages, Model 387 or Model 328. >Many lengths and NPT sizes are available and illustrated at: <http://www.johnernst.com/liquid_level_gauges_p32.html> The only problem with the one illustrated is that it has neoprene gaskets, which do NOT mix with gasoline! Be sure to use a fuel-resistant material for the gasketing and other components. And as far as the gauge mentioned sometime back on this list and on the BPA website, I downloaded and printed out the directions for fabricating the "Stearman type" gauge using tubing and a ping-pong ball (if I remember correctly). It's nifty! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 03:28:47 PM PST US
    From: "Hubbard, Eugene" <ehubbard@titan.com>
    Subject: Aileron Hinges
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" <ehubbard@titan.com> Barry, I chose the strap hinges over piano hinges because I felt they gave a much more solid attachment to the wooden spars. I just couldn't see putting an off-center load on a 1/2 inch spar only 1/2 inch from the edge. I used fairly heavy (6 inch or so) strap hinges, probably from the same supply emproium you looked at. I ground off the pins, welded the loops shut, bent, and cut to length. My hinges were zinc-flashed, not hot-dipped. The advice I got was that with adequate ventilation, the zinc wasn't a problem. I trusted my source, but not being up on the physiology, I'm offering this as narrative, not advice. In any case the zinc burned off easily and left white powder on the nearby surfaces. Gene Hubbard San Diego -----Original Message----- From: Barry Davis [mailto:bed@mindspring.com] Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aileron Hinges --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> We are trying to decide between strap hinges as shown on the plans or piano hinges. We went to a fameous Home stuff superstore and loked at the piano hinges, flimsly. The strap hinges looked ok, but were hot dip gavalinazed, can't weld. What is a Piet builder to do? Are there any sources for 3" strap hinges that are not plated? Barry Davis


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    Time: 06:02:57 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Wing tank level sight guage....
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Hi Ted I mounted the guage as close to the rear right cabane strut as possible. I am hoping it will be safe as for passangers. Next time I go to the hangar I'll take a picture and send it along. As soon as I find a petcock with NF thread it will do double duty as a sump drain. Aloso I used Doug fir for my gear struts. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing tank level sight guage.... > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > > Dick, > > Where did you put the gauge? Does it interfere with the passenger getting > in and out? I would love to have a stearman type gauge. > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool@goldengate.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing tank level sight guage.... > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratril" > <horzpool@goldengate.net> > > > > I bought a Stearman guage from ACS and cut it down to fit my tank. I had > to > > re-tap the plug and shorten the wire to the cork but it works fine. > > Dick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing tank level sight guage.... > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle > > <jim_markle@mindspring.com> > > > > > > Building a wing tank? I just got off the phone with a local pressure > > vessel distributor. My hope was that he might supply my fuel level guage > > sight glass. I'm using a level guage like the one Larry Williams and > others > > have used and was detailed in a previous Brodhead Pietenpol Association > > newsletter. > > > > > > Anyway, all the clear plastic tubing I've found turns yellow when > immersed > > in gasoline. So after FINALLY getting him to understand what I'm trying > to > > do, he asked why I'm building it and not buying it already made? After > all > > my usual "nothing like this is made" explanations, he said that yes, > > something like that IS made and costs around $40. > > > > > > The one he showed me is made of brass and looks like a perfect solution! > > I'm going to make mine, but if anyone is interested, here's what he > > recommended: > > > Top Vented Guages, Model 387 or Model 328. Many lengths and NPT sizes > are > > available and illustrated at: > > > > > > <http://www.johnernst.com/liquid_level_gauges_p32.html> > > > > > > Pretty neat option actually, if you want something built out of brass > and > > ready for harsh environments, this might fit the bill.... They even list > one > > that's 12" long that could be turned over and used for a fuse tank..... > > > > > > Jim in Plano > > > NX25JM > > > Doing a LOT of varnishing these days, the center section is almost done > > and I'm having EXTREME fun building this thing!!!! What a joy...... > > > Build Log: > > <http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReport.cfm?PlaneID=52> > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:00:41 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Laser cut GN-1 parts available - please respond if you
    need any. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> I will be placing my order for some lasercut parts for my GN-1 Friday. Because of the way the cut list is working on my order, I will be getting some extra parts that I will not need. These parts are laser cut from .080" 4140 and also bent where applicable. I will have them available for a cheap price to those interested. Parts will be: 3 extra sets - tail wheel steering horn left and right (bolts to both sides of rudder) $20 per set. 1 extra set - elevator horns left and right $20 1 extra set - walking beam support brackets left and right $15 If there are any parts any of you GN-1 builders need let me know. I will be able to add it to my cut list. The more parts I have cut the lower the cost per part is..... so... rudder horns, aileron horns, brace lugs, etc... let me know and I'll draw them up and put them in with my order.... you can pretty much plan on about $15 per part... so let me know ASAP! DJ Vegh N74DV www.raptoronline.com Mesa, AZ This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit <http://www.halfpricehosting.com/av.asp>.


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    Time: 11:01:48 PM PST US
    From: "Gary McNeel" <gmcneel@mykitplane.com>
    Subject: Laser cut GN-1 parts available - please respond if
    you need any. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gary McNeel" <gmcneel@mykitplane.com> DJ, did you ask them if they would do 4130. I noticed that somewhere in the program you could make a special request with your order for different materials. It would sure be worth a note to them. -Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DJ Vegh Subject: Pietenpol-List: Laser cut GN-1 parts available - please respond if you need any. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> I will be placing my order for some lasercut parts for my GN-1 Friday. Because of the way the cut list is working on my order, I will be getting some extra parts that I will not need. These parts are laser cut from .080" 4140 and also bent where applicable. I will have them available for a cheap price to those interested. Parts will be: 3 extra sets - tail wheel steering horn left and right (bolts to both sides of rudder) $20 per set. 1 extra set - elevator horns left and right $20 1 extra set - walking beam support brackets left and right $15 If there are any parts any of you GN-1 builders need let me know. I will be able to add it to my cut list. The more parts I have cut the lower the cost per part is..... so... rudder horns, aileron horns, brace lugs, etc... let me know and I'll draw them up and put them in with my order.... you can pretty much plan on about $15 per part... so let me know ASAP! DJ Vegh N74DV www.raptoronline.com Mesa, AZ This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit <http://www.halfpricehosting.com/av.asp>.




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