Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 04/27/03


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:08 PM - Cutting 4130 (Ted Brousseau)
     2. 04:31 PM - Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion (D. Engelkenjohn)
     3. 06:24 PM - Re: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion (John McNarry)
     4. 07:16 PM - Re: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
     5. 07:42 PM - Re: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion (John McNarry)
     6. 09:45 PM - Model A (Rcaprd@aol.com)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 04:08:39 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Cutting 4130
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Boy is this list dead. Is everyone out flying or making sawdust? I just cut out the firewall end of the motor mounts that are made of 1/8" 4130. I use a standard wood cutting band saw with a standard 1/2" wood cutting blade. I timed the cuts. They were basically 30 seconds per inch of straight cut. It is called friction cutting. You get it going just fast enough to create a red glow where the blade meets the sheet. I have been using this blade for 6 months of off and on cutting. I report this for those that might already own a band saw and be thinking about investing in a metal cutting band saw. Unless you need the metal one for other things, the wood saw does just fine. You need to change blades to cut wood. After cutting metal it isn't worth a darn for wood cutting. Of course, you want to open the saw and get all the saw dust out before cutting metal or have a fire extinguisher handy. Hope this helps someone save a little $ and shop space. And see if we can get a little life in this list again. Ted


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    Time: 04:31:43 PM PST US
    From: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
    Subject: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com> Is anyone building or flying a Pietenpol conversion? Where do the oil lines go on the engine to the manifold? I mean where do you drill and tap on the engiine to get oil ? Dennis Engelkenjohn


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    Time: 06:24:46 PM PST US
    From: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca>
    Subject: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca> Dennis Are you asking about the pressure feeds to the main bearings or to connect an oil pressure gauge? The conversion process is well described in the F&G manuals and in the 1933 plan set. If you are looking to install a pressure gauge on an A, don't! It will just scare you. The system was designed to work on flow to the dipper tray to oil the rods and gravity feed to the cam and mains. As the oil heats up it flows more easily and the pressure will drop of drastically. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of D. Engelkenjohn Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com> Is anyone building or flying a Pietenpol conversion? Where do the oil lines go on the engine to the manifold? I mean where do you drill and tap on the engiine to get oil ? Dennis Engelkenjohn


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    Time: 07:16:40 PM PST US
    From: Waytogopiet@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com In a message dated 4/27/2003 8:25:39 PM Central Standard Time, jmcnarry@escape.ca writes: > As the oil heats up it flows more > easily and the pressure will drop of drastically. > Yeah John, but at least, with a guage you know that it's pumping. Mine starts out at 10-15# then drops down to 3# and holds there. One of the problems in the car was starving the front main on long sustained uphill pulls using gravity feed only. Not unlike a climbout in the plane. Comforting to know it's still getting oil to the mains even though it's just 3# . Don


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    Time: 07:42:55 PM PST US
    From: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca>
    Subject: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca> Don Some of the older cars and other equipment had sight tube that gave a visual reference to the flow. More reassuring than a gauge, and wouldn't be hard to build. One line to the sight tube, a small orifice in the top of a glass tube in a brass cutaway tube, and a return line to the sump. A flow meter of sorts. The gauge in my AA truck has been removed. I found little comfort in it. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oil lines to manifold on Pietenpol conversion --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com In a message dated 4/27/2003 8:25:39 PM Central Standard Time, jmcnarry@escape.ca writes: > As the oil heats up it flows more > easily and the pressure will drop of drastically. > Yeah John, but at least, with a guage you know that it's pumping. Mine starts out at 10-15# then drops down to 3# and holds there. One of the problems in the car was starving the front main on long sustained uphill pulls using gravity feed only. Not unlike a climbout in the plane. Comforting to know it's still getting oil to the mains even though it's just 3# . Don


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    Time: 09:45:46 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Model A
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 4/25/03 9:42:20 AM Central Daylight Time, hpvs@southwind.net writes: << as far as I'm concerned, you still have "visitation rights" if you want to revert back to "A" power for the next 14 hours >> Mike, This is a generous offer, and I thank you for it. However, I am too close to hearing the ol' Continental A65 come to life. I've been working on the cowling, and eyebrows today. As soon as I finish the prop, and exhaust, I'll be doing the first engine run on my new engine. Chuck Gantzer




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