Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/30/03


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:48 AM - Re: Fuse change from plans (Doyle K. Combs)
     2. 05:52 AM - Re: Fuse change from plans (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     3. 06:34 AM - $1.50 Home Dep. drag wires (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
     4. 06:59 AM - cutting 4130 w/ woodcutting bandsaw (Jim Cooper)
     5. 07:19 AM - Re: straight axle builders  (John Dilatush)
     6. 07:35 AM - Re: cutting 4130 w/ woodcutting bandsaw (Ken)
     7. 04:45 PM - Re: Drag/Anti-Drag (John McNarry)
     8. 08:03 PM - Re: straight axle builders  (Ted Brousseau)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:48:04 AM PST US
    From: "Doyle K. Combs" <dcombs@ltex.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuse change from plans
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Doyle K. Combs" <dcombs@Ltex.net> If you don't sell it to him, I will buy it. Doyle Combs ----- Original Message ----- From: <Isablcorky@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuse change from plans > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com > > Les, > > Isabelle has put her pretty little foot down HARD and said, "No, you're not > flying over water to Beliese to drink rum with the fisherman nor are you > going to fly over those Andies". So, I have a 9.3 alum fuel tank which will > fit a Piet center section. I don't remember what I paid for it but you can > have it if you want to pay the dreyage. If you can't afford it I'll pay the > dreyage. > YKW in YKW living positively > >


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    Time: 05:52:29 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuse change from plans
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com I'm givin' it to him not selling. Check with him, if he doesn't want it or something, let me know. Corky


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    Time: 06:34:13 AM PST US
    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: $1.50 Home Dep. drag wires
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Ted: At one point Fish@%&*# decided that 1.50 was too much money to waste on something his life depended on, so insted of bale wire he was going to use ROPE! Leon S. Do not archive


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    Time: 06:59:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Cooper" <blugoos1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: cutting 4130 w/ woodcutting bandsaw
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Cooper" <blugoos1@bellsouth.net> Pieters & GN-1'ers: I missed the posting about cutting 4130 steel with a woodcutting bandsaw. I just acquired a Delta 14" woodcutting bandsaw and would like to know how to slow it down to be able to cut 4130 steel. Thanks, Jim Cooper


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    Time: 07:19:18 AM PST US
    From: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
    Subject: Re: straight axle builders
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: straight axle builders ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ted, I used 4130 alloy tubing, 1 1/2" x 1.25" wall thickness. I then welded in the ends some J-3 Cub axles so that I could use tapered bearings and a Cub axle nut. This assembly then went into hubs for spoked wheels that I made up. Because of our altitude, (7946') and the extra weight of the plane due to a heavier engine, the landings are fast, I have to come across the fence at 70 plus to get any float at all during the flair. Finding this out in the first few flights resulted in some pretty rough landings and a couple of excursions off into the toolies. I am sure that I had dropped the plane in a couple of times from at least 4'. I then sighted down the axle, and sure enough, it had taken a slight bend from the rough treatment. I then straightened it out and had no problems since. At least we now know the limits that this size axle will take! I would suggest this size and you will be prepared for most any kind of landing. John NX114D Salida, Colorado > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> > > Mike, > > I just got a private response from a member of the list (who I will not name > since he responded privately) who said he used 1.5 x .065 for his axle. He > has been flying it for some time too. > > Seems like anything will work. I wonder if anyone knows of any Piets that > had bending problems with a straight axle. If so, what size? We could then > come up with a minimum size limit. > > > Ted > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: straight axle builders and the home shopping > network > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > > > Group--copying from Frank P.'s Sky Gypsy, I made my axle out of 1.5" OD x > > 0.200 4130 tube. > >


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    Time: 07:35:34 AM PST US
    From: "Ken" <av8or@infionline.net>
    Subject: cutting 4130 w/ woodcutting bandsaw
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken" <av8or@infionline.net> "Welders Handbook" by Richard Finch has information on converting a wood cutting bandsaw for steel. Ken av8or@infionline.net kring@mountainviewdogs.com kring@irisweb.net www.irisweb.net www.mountainviewdogs.com


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    Time: 04:45:22 PM PST US
    From: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca>
    Subject: Drag/Anti-Drag
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca> The Christavia, a Canadian design, uses solid wires with threaded ends and instead of forks uses motorcycle spoke nipples. The nipples pass through the spar on the neutral axis and bear against washers on angled blocks. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DJ Vegh Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Drag/Anti-Drag --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> The GN-1 calls for solid wire for drag/anti drag. I'll be doing mine with that method. The ends of the wires are threaded and have forks. I believe the Aeronca Champ is the same way. DJ Vegh N74DV www.raptoronline.com Mesa, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Drag/Anti-Drag > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> > > Does everyone go with the turnbuckles and cables, or are there other ways to make these wires? It just about kills me to order $3000 worth of turnbuckles for all six Piets. There's got to be a better way. > > Does anyone have info on spoke nipples and solid wire? My Jr.Ace has solid wires with cut threads (I am not builder of this plane). > > One of our builders has a PA22 and it has smooth wires and compression fittings on wing and tail feather flying wires. These fittings just squeeze the smooth wires. > > Barry > > This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit <http://www.halfpricehosting.com/av.asp>.


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    Time: 08:03:00 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Re: straight axle builders
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Thanks John. This brings up a question. If motorcycle type wheels are going to be used on a straight axle what is the need for threading a nut. Wouldn't a simple flange drilled and bolted through the axle be enough? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: straight axle builders > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> > > > Ted, > > I used 4130 alloy tubing, 1 1/2" x 1.25" wall thickness. I then welded in > the ends some J-3 Cub axles so that I could use tapered bearings and a Cub > axle nut. This assembly then went into hubs for spoked wheels that I made > up. >




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