---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/12/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:29 AM - Piper shock struts (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 2. 06:36 AM - Ontario Fly-in (Scott Pundsack) 3. 07:53 AM - tye-wraps, and don't forget a loop of 1/8" safety cable (Michael D Cuy) 4. 07:58 AM - There will be a Luscombe gathering at Brodhead TOO (Michael D Cuy) 5. 10:32 AM - taxiing, and moving scenery (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 11:48 AM - Re: taxiing, and moving scenery (walter evans) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:07 AM PST US From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piper shock struts --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Chuck asked. "Did Piper copy BHP's shock struts?'' Hi Chuck, if they did they made a great improvement by turning the lower bungee cord tube perpendicular to the top one then using bungee cord rings. It never dawned on me to build my lower shock struts that way until after I had them built. ( the second time ). It would be so simple to have done it J-3 style. With a home made tool you could install shock rings in about 5 minuets. Leon S. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ontario Fly-in From: Scott Pundsack --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Scott Pundsack I'm slow at reading through the list digest, but I didn't see an answer to someone's question about the Ontario Piet fly-in. Its on June 14th and still in Brussels. Contact person is Jim Armstrong at 519-887-6753. Scott Pundsack ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:33 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: tye-wraps, and don't forget a loop of 1/8" safety cable --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Group-- The mention of the tye wraps deteriorating over time is correct. They get brittle in time but the bungees get tired about the same time so it is a recurring type of maintenance that us Pieters have to do. If you choose the tye wraps, look for GOOD quality ones. Not the cheap ones made in China. This is a must. Someone on the list mentioned the safety loop of cable around the axle and the ash gear 'U' bottom in case the bungees let loose or the ends come undone. This is a must as well. There are pics of this on the matronics photoshare of mine. It's just a loop of 1/8" cable about 12" in diameter that you swage on each side to keep your axle from going clear up into the belly should you loose a bungee. Tony B. gives a few other methods of terminating the bungee ends too like the whipping/lacing/knoting and even I think hose clamps. One thing that is REALLY obvious is that the smoke system deteriorates the bungees more than the non-smoking bungee. ( I have the smoke coming out of the right exhaust pipe only) When I replace the right side the cord is more stiff and not as flexible as the other side. The oil predictably does the rubber bands in more quickly than the non oil side. I'd say on average I replace my bungees every two seasons of flying or so. A NUTHER thing the straight axle guys need to keep in mind are those nuts and bolts that hold those metal U shaped plates in place at the V bottom by the ash blocks and gear legs. If you've got way too much bolt sticking out (more than 2 threads) washer up your nuts (ouch) so the bungees don't have that to chaffe against. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:05 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: There will be a Luscombe gathering at Brodhead TOO --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Larry-- somewhere I read (maybe the last issue of the newsletter ?) that there will be (in addition to the Piets and now Tailwinds) a gathering of Luscombes too a the Piet fly-in. Maybe I'll drive to Osh instead:) Mike ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:40 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: taxiing, and moving scenery --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Walt wrote- >get an unsliced loaf of white bread, unwrap it and hold it >in front of your face with the end touching your nose, >now tilt it up in the front about 15 deg. >Now run faster and faster till you reach about 30 mph, >and now flatten it to look over the loaf top. I tried this, but ran into the closet door before I even got to 10 MPH. Could it be that I have my bungees stretched too tight? Oscar Zuniga (do not archive) San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:33 AM PST US From: "walter evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: taxiing, and moving scenery --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walter evans" Oscar, If you hit the closet door with the side of your head, I'd say you were starting to ground loop. Next time check your feet, if you are running pigeon toed, then its a toe-in/toe-out issue. walt thanks for a good chuckle do not archive at all ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: taxiing, and moving scenery > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > > Walt wrote- > > >get an unsliced loaf of white bread, unwrap it and hold it > >in front of your face with the end touching your nose, > >now tilt it up in the front about 15 deg. > >Now run faster and faster till you reach about 30 mph, > >and now flatten it to look over the loaf top. > > I tried this, but ran into the closet door before I even got to 10 MPH. > Could it be that I have my bungees stretched too tight? > > Oscar Zuniga (do not archive) > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >