---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/27/03: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - Web site update (Ken Rickards) 2. 08:22 AM - Rudder Bar and Pedal (cat_designs@juno.com) 3. 11:19 AM - step (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 12:18 PM - Re: Rudder Bar and Pedal (rambog@erols.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:32 AM PST US From: Ken Rickards Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web site update --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards For any interested parties, I have just updated my web site. Added a few more elevator construction and engine pics. Progress has been a bit slow the past few weeks. Work around the house has kept me busy! http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Epietbuilder/index.htm Ken GN1 2992 Canada ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:46 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Bar and Pedal From: cat_designs@juno.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: cat_designs@juno.com I have a few questions after this long weekend. #1: What size bolts should I use to hold the rudder bar support bracket to the 1/4" floor? I was thinking AN-4 (1/4")or should I step up to an AN-5 (5/16"). #2: I was trying to smash the ends of the rudder bar tubing like the plans show. I heated up the tubing and squished them in my vice using two metal plates with a curve bent into them so I can transition from flat to round. Here is my problem, I can't seem to make the flat section perfectly flat. If I look at it on end its more of a figure 8. The center of the flat section is pinched in more then the edges. Is this how it is supposed to be or am I doing something wrong here? Am I squishing them to much? #3: What is the best way to hold or jig the 1/2" tubing for the front rudder pedals so I can weld them. If I attach them to a board does the smoke and flame contaminate the weld? #4: What size bolt should I use to hold the front rudder pedal fittings to the floor? There are two of them on such a small fitting so I am thinking two AN-3 bolts will be fine. Chris Sacramento, CA The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:07 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: step --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Peter (from Down Under) wrote- >Check out http://www.pjshenton.go-plus.net/default.htm. Yes, the 3/4" x 3" reinforcement is addressed there... and so much more. For example, I know I've seen several Piets with nice steps, but here's a great photo that says it all: http://www.pjshenton.go-plus.net/pictures/Dscf0020.jpg Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:05 PM PST US From: "rambog@erols.com" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Bar and Pedal --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com" Original Message: ----------------- From: cat_designs@juno.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Bar and Pedal --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: cat_designs@juno.com 1. 1/4" bolt is fine for the support. 2. I've never used curved pieces, it isn't necessary. Just heat up and flatten with the vise. Reheat as necessary and flatten some more. The edges are slightly bulged where the metal is rounded down onto itself, I don't think I would try to get them perfectly flat, you're just asking to crack it. 3. Smoke from a wood jig does not contaminate. I have built rudder pedals that way before. For my Piet, though, I now have a magnetic square for holding just such things perfectly aligned. Most tool catalogs have them. 4. I would think one 3/16 bolt on each side is enough. I am still trying to figure out how I am going to attach mine. Just another opinion, Gene