Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:13 AM - Re: Split Axle Springs (Gadd, Skip)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: Split Axle Springs (Kent Hallsten)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: Split Axle Springs (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
4. 06:50 AM - Re: Split Axle Springs (D. Engelkenjohn)
5. 08:26 AM - Re: pilot seat and other ramblings... (cat_designs@juno.com)
6. 09:54 PM - Model A Engine Restoration (Mel Martinez)
7. 10:11 PM - Re: Cross Country in a Piet (Shawn Wolk)
8. 11:16 PM - Re: Movie ()
Message 1
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Split Axle Springs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
Dennis,
What is the rating of the XH56 springs, I believe die springs are rated at
the force in pounds needed to compress the spring 1 inch, mine are rated at
2400 lbs, but my gear is lower and wider than plans so I need a stronger
spring.
Also can anyone advise me about removing or painting over power coating? I
think my springs are power coated and they may not match the color scheme
planned.
Skip in Atlanta, just got my spokes back from Buchanan's and they look
great!
>I called Precision Punch & Plastic Co. this afternoon and ordered a pair
>of XH56 Lamina die springs for the Piet. The price was $28.77 ea plus
>$3.00 S&H and whatever UPS charges to ship them to me. The XH56 are the
>heavy duty ones. They should be here mid next week or so. They will ship
>them tommorrow.
>Dennis Engelkenjohn
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Split Axle Springs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten" <KHallsten@Governair.com>
Sandblasting was the way we did it in one shop I worked in.
Kent Hallsten
>
> Also can anyone advise me about removing or painting over
> power coating? I
> think my springs are power coated and they may not match the
> color scheme
> planned.
>
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Split Axle Springs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Hi Dennis: This post is probably too late since you have already spent
28 bucks for the die springs, but Wag Aero sells a die spring sock kit
for around $165. It has the springs, tubing, washers etc for a turnkey
weld it your self shock kit. Leon S. Hutch, Ks.
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Split Axle Springs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
Gadd, Skip wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
>
>Dennis,
>What is the rating of the XH56 springs, I believe die springs are rated at
>the force in pounds needed to compress the spring 1 inch, mine are rated at
>2400 lbs, but my gear is lower and wider than plans so I need a stronger
>spring.
>
>
John, at Precision Punch and Plastics said they were rated at 1650
lbs to compress 1". I am going to use the plans except for mating
Taylorcraft axles to the landing gear because they were a gift and I
can't afford to turn them down.
In one of the older BPA Newsletters were the plans for a split axle
gear using the die springs. The tubing sizes were given and I went over
to Shapiro and bought all the tubing for the die spring shock set up for
$15 last saturday. Hope to have less than $135 total in gear when done.
Not that I am trying to skimp, but if you go to Shapiro in person on
saturday morning, the guys in the cutting rooms know you and make you a
great deal.
Dennis Engelkenjohn
>
>
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: pilot seat and other ramblings... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: cat_designs@juno.com
Tom,
I have sat in my seat numerous times, honestly I am test fitting not just pretending
I am flying and you have to make the airplane to get the fit just right,
and I have had no problems with it braking but I am a light weight (160 pounds),
I think you could split it apart and glue it back together if it fits together
well. If not take it out and put in a new piece. I found the best way to
remove things like this is to use a SHARP chisel, a 1" chisel is my preferred
weapon of choice. Use a small saw to to make a cut almost all the way through
the piece near both ends. You don't have to be to close say 1/4" away. Using
the chisel take the bulk of it off in large chunks but as you get closer the
the glue line slow down and take smaller slivers of wood. Now as you get close
to the ply sharpen your chisel again. Lay the back of the chisel flat on
the wood you are removing, at about a 20 degree angle. Now push it by hand don't
use a hammer. You should be taking little chunks of wood off, if not raise
the angle slightly. When you get down to nothing but glue you can usually scrape
it off with a single edge razor blade, I like the heavy duty ones for the
razor blade knifes used for cutting drywall. Also round the tips off using you
grinder so you don't gouge the plywood. This works great for cured T-88 and
I would guess it would work on other types of glue.
As for reinforcing the seat you might be able to put a support running left to
right under the 4 seat frame pieces at about mid span. support this on the ends
from the lower longerons. This may be a problem with hitting the control cables
though. Perhaps this one support was higher then the rest and took the full
load. If this true the new one should be ok because with the seat bottom installed
it will line up better.
Just my opinion, for what ever that's worth
Chris
Sacramento, CA
--- "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Wondering if anyone has ever had the experience of their pilot seat frame members
cracking. I'm not THAT fat (200 lbs)... I just installed the pilot seat last
week and I was sitting in it trying to get a feel for how the front seatback
would be layed out. Each time I sat, I heard a small creak. I thought maybe
it was the workbench but I figured I'd look around. Found out it was one of
the inner structural members of the seat. Didn't crack at the glue line (proof
that the glue is stronger than the wood) it split about 1/8" from the glue
line, right down the grain. What I think may be the cause is that there is so
little support for the wood at that point, other than the glue on the ply and
end grain.
So, If I remove the member, what's a good way to do it without ruining the seat.
I thought I might just pry the split section appart, apply some epoxy in the
crack and clamp together. Then add a plywood gusset beneath the back frame
member and the 4 other members, tying them all together. Any opions here?
Also, wondering if others are using T88 as filler on occassion where small gaps
in joints appear or where plywood gussets are held down. I've come accross a
few situations where the plywood, although I staple it down, leaves a small gap
(1/16" or so). Wondering if filling this void is acceptable.
And lastly, any people here fly around the West Virginia mountainous areas? I'm
planning a trip later in the summer and could use some feedback on my plans.
If so, contact me directly at tmbrant@usfamily.net
Thanks!
Tom Brant
Brooklyn Park, MN
The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Model A Engine Restoration |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mel Martinez <melitonm@prodigy.net.mx>
Hi:
I've just received a Ford Model A engine ready to be rebuild.
I'd like to receive information about the rebuilding expec's, or a Web
link to see such information to install the engine in a Pietenpol.
Thanks
Mel Martinez
San Carlos, Sonora, Mxico.
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Cross Country in a Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Shawn Wolk" <shawnwolk@sprint.ca>
The Piet I fly sounds just like what hjasd been written. A-65 powered 31' oversize
wingspan with steel tube fuselage and monocoupe tail.
cruise and flat out are basically the same. It climbs at 2125 rpm, flat out
is 2250 rpm at 71-73 mph, and throttling back to 2200 seems to make no difference
to the speed. Climb is 300-350 fpm and I've found best climb around 58-64
mph. It's wonderful to fly in the morning or evening, and during the thermals
of the day a handful. I recently went flying about one hour after a strong system
passed over with more cumulus forming. And found it to be a white knuckle,
attention getter. 200 ft altitude bounces both wats were the norm. But the flying
in smooth calm air makes it all worth it.
I also find that landing the Piet well is a challenge. If I come in without
power, the flair must be perfect. Otherwise it will slow down instantaneously
and drop. I usually fly final at 55-60 mph with 1500 rpm right to the flair. Once
I am level in the flair power is removed fast or slow depending on how high
the flair was and the stick pulled back. I have inadvertently done some nice
wheel landings by not pulling back on the stick fast enough and it just rolled
out on the mains.
Shawn Wolk
C-FRAZ
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <HUBBLUGG@AOL.COM>
Please see the attached file.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|