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1. 05:02 AM - trim ideas (Michael D Cuy)
2. 08:05 AM - Re: large lift struts (DJ Vegh)
3. 10:08 AM - Re: trim ideas (Steve Eldredge)
4. 11:13 AM - Re: Movie ()
5. 11:59 AM - Pietenpol Beats Yeager's Bell X-1.......... (Michael D Cuy)
6. 12:17 PM - Re: Pietenpol Beats Yeager's Bell X-1.......... (John_Duprey@vmed.org)
7. 01:44 PM - Air Camper Project on eBay.... (Jim Markle)
8. 01:57 PM - Re: Air Camper Project on eBay.... (Jim Markle)
9. 02:29 PM - Re: latest entry in web log - center section & ca (Ken Rickards)
10. 05:15 PM - Taylorcraft newsgroup (D. Engelkenjohn)
11. 05:54 PM - Re: Taylorcraft newsgroup (Cy Galley)
12. 06:04 PM - cabane x-bracing (DJ Vegh)
13. 06:24 PM - Re: cabane x-bracing (Craig Wilcox)
14. 06:47 PM - Re: cabane x-bracing (DJ Vegh)
15. 07:02 PM - Re: cabane x-bracing (Jim Ash)
16. 07:16 PM - Re: Oshkosh (Woodflier@aol.com)
17. 07:53 PM - Re: cabane x-bracing (Arthur Johnson)
18. 08:48 PM - update on project (Brants)
19. 09:35 PM - Re: Oshkosh (Ken Anderson)
20. 10:39 PM - Re: large lift struts (clif)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Will, group,
Somewhere along the line I was told that Bernard Pietenpol had tried
controlling elevator trim by attaching some springs to the upper and lower
arms of the elevator bellcrank ends. I welded two pieces of 4130, much
like a 1/2 sized elevator horn or aileron horn to the tube that the big
bellcrank is welded to. (on one side or the other of the
bellcrank) Under the seat I bolted a lever arm shaped like a T and
attached 3/32" cables to the top ends of the T and connected them with the
little horn on the bellcrank tube w/ the springs. I've got a friction
type nut on the pivot point of the lever arm which isn't the most effective
in keeping position, but it works ok. With 17 gallons of fuel behind the
firewall, the trim in my Piet is most effective after you burn off fuel and
the tail becomes somewhat heavier. There are many ways one could add
elevator trim---I've seen some really effective hardware store type bungee
(about 1/4" to 3/8" diam bungee/shock cord) trim deals on Piets where they
attach it to somewhere in the cockpit, then loop it around the stick and
vary the height of it on the stick to vary the force on the stick.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: large lift struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
Clif,
great post but..... the bolt I am talking about is the fork that threads
into the end of the lift strut. It has 7/16-20 threads. My concern is it
would not be wise to use aluminum that has "homemade" cut threads into it.
If those threads fail then so does the strut and from there it's all over.
I'd feel much safer with a 4130 steel bar and have a machine shop thread it.
Although 7075 aluminum would be alot stronger than 6061 or 2024 and
certainly lighter than steel bar....
I dunno .... I guess I'll worry about this when I get to it.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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----- Original Message -----
From: "clif" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: large lift struts
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
>
> I'm a little late on this one but I think the area
> of concern is that between the bolt hole edge
> and the side of the bar, both sides added.
>
> For 6061 the strength/ sq in is around 30,000 lbs
> The area we're talking about is 1"-3/8= 5/8 sq in.
> Multiplied by 30,000 gives over 18,000 lb!
> Times four struts........
> The 3/8 bolt itself is in shear at two points.
> Find the area of the bolt circle, multiply by two,
> multply by the shear strength and.....
>
> A=pi times radius times radius.
> 3/16 x 3/16 x 3.14 = 0.11 sq in
>
> Add top and bottom shear points= 0.22 sq in
>
> AN bolt at 125,000 lb shear X 0.22 in = 27500 lb
>
> Even assuming the actual useful safe strength as
> considerably less is this strong enough DJ?
>
> Those 3/16, 1/4 and 5/16 bolts called for by Bernard
> are plenty strong enough in their respective locations.
>
> I think the prime concern would be stress risers,
> cracks, etc. in the holes and edges. Certainly
> more of a concern in aluminum than steel.
>
> Clif
>
> PS, Don't assume this works for wood, it's a little
> different. Especialy in longitudinal pull.
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > I'm not sure if a 1" sq. aluminum would be strong enough.... I guess it
> > would, but my thought process was I don't want to be up in the air in a
> > turbulent day wondering if it is strong enough.
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
RE: trim
I do just as Mike C suggests. I have a 6" hardware store bungee cord
wrapped around my rear control stick. I attach the other end to my seat
belt and adjust as needed. I only use it when I'm flying more than an
hour or so, which isn't very often.
Cost: $.95 and 30 seconds.
Steve E.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: trim ideas
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Will, group,
Somewhere along the line I was told that Bernard Pietenpol had tried
controlling elevator trim by attaching some springs to the upper and
lower
arms of the elevator bellcrank ends. I welded two pieces of 4130, much
like a 1/2 sized elevator horn or aileron horn to the tube that the big
bellcrank is welded to. (on one side or the other of the
bellcrank) Under the seat I bolted a lever arm shaped like a T and
attached 3/32" cables to the top ends of the T and connected them with
the
little horn on the bellcrank tube w/ the springs. I've got a friction
type nut on the pivot point of the lever arm which isn't the most
effective
in keeping position, but it works ok. With 17 gallons of fuel behind
the
firewall, the trim in my Piet is most effective after you burn off fuel
and
the tail becomes somewhat heavier. There are many ways one could add
elevator trim---I've seen some really effective hardware store type
bungee
(about 1/4" to 3/8" diam bungee/shock cord) trim deals on Piets where
they
attach it to somewhere in the cockpit, then loop it around the stick and
vary the height of it on the stick to vary the force on the stick.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <phil@petrasoft.net>
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Beats Yeager's Bell X-1.......... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
in wingspan length by one foot and a few inches. Glamorous Glennis has a
28 ft. wingspan and the Piet has what, a 29' 3" or such ? With that and
$ 1.50 you can get a cup of coffee.
Please do not archive. The rain and heat are taking their toll on my mine
here in Cleveland.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Beats Yeager's Bell X-1.......... |
07/08/2003 03:17:18 PM
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John_Duprey@vmed.org
Ahh... but Glamorous Glennis could never be described as flying Low and
Slow.
Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>@matronics.com on 07/08/2003
02:58:45 PM
Please respond to pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
cc:
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Beats Yeager's Bell X-1..........
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
in wingspan length by one foot and a few inches. Glamorous Glennis has a
28 ft. wingspan and the Piet has what, a 29' 3" or such ? With that and
$ 1.50 you can get a cup of coffee.
Please do not archive. The rain and heat are taking their toll on my mine
here in Cleveland.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Air Camper Project on eBay.... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Title of item: Pietenpol Aircamper Project A-65 Powered
Seller: millermathew@yahoo.com
Starts: Jul-08-03 10:32:08 PDT
Ends: Jul-18-03 10:32:08 PDT
Price: Starts at $1,800.00
To bid on the item, go
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| Subject: | Re: Air Camper Project on eBay.... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
ok, try this:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2422937607
>
if that doesn't work, go to ebay and search for Pietenpol....
jm
-------Original Message-------
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Air Camper Project on eBay....
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Title of item: Pietenpol Aircamper Project A-65 Powered
Seller: millermathew@yahoo.com
Starts: Jul-08-03 10:32:08 PDT
Ends: Jul-18-03 10:32:08 PDT
Price: Starts at $1,800.00
To bid on the item, go
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2422937607>
>
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| Subject: | latest entry in web log - center section & ca |
banes
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards <krickards@cvci.com>
DJ,
Those laser cut parts look really good. I like the idea of adjustable tubes,
think I will steal that idea.
Nice to see someone working on their project, I've been on the road for the
last month and I'm getting a desperate urge to glue something together
Ken
GN1 2992
Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Vegh [mailto:aircamper@imagedv.com]
Subject: Pietenpol-List: latest entry in web log - center section &
cabanes
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I updated my construction log today. Some more photos of the center section
progress and cabanes.
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/Log/GN1-log-003.htm
I'm hoping to have the center section built and rigged within the next 2
weeks.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Taylorcraft newsgroup |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
Does anyone know about a Taylorcraft newsgroup on the web anywhere?
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| Subject: | Re: Taylorcraft newsgroup |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
taylorcraft@topica.com
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Engelkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Taylorcraft newsgroup
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D. Engelkenjohn"
<wingding@usmo.com>
>
> Does anyone know about a Taylorcraft newsgroup on the web anywhere?
>
>
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| Subject: | cabane x-bracing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
I got to thinking that it may be cool to use stainless streamline wires for
the cabane x-bracing.
I called Steen Aero Lab , the only US distributor of Bruntons. Bruntons is
one of the VERY few companies who make flying wires. They are in Scotland.
For streamlined stainless cabane wires with AN clevis ends and check nuts
the total was $400.
A bit too steep for me. I was hoping they'd be about $65 a wire or less.
Lead time is 12 weeks since they come from overseas.
So..... I have decided to do stainless 1/8" cable. I called AS&S today and
had them custom make me the cables with forks swaged on one end. The other
end I will nicopress to a cable eye which screws into the turnbuckle barrel.
The nicopress and turnbuckles will be hidden inside the instument panel.
The visible end of the wires will have no "ugly" nicopress clamps... only
clean looking stainless swaged forks. Total cost for all the wires, forks,
barrels, cable eyes, clevis pins & cotter pins and swaging fees was $150.
Only bummer is there's a 4 week lead time on them. The center section
construction will have to wait til then.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
_
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| Subject: | Re: cabane x-bracing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
DJ -
Do it the way I did my tail wires - find a friendly local machine shop, and
have them thread some 3/16" stainless, one end left, one end right. The
AN662 fittings will then screw on, with check nuts, and you will be set.
You can even have them machine the little flat that helps turn them for
adjustments. My wires were about $10 each, plus the fittings (they average
$12 ea as an assembly).
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> I got to thinking that it may be cool to use stainless streamline wires
for
> the cabane x-bracing.
>
> I called Steen Aero Lab , the only US distributor of Bruntons. Bruntons
is
> one of the VERY few companies who make flying wires. They are in
Scotland.
>
> For streamlined stainless cabane wires with AN clevis ends and check nuts
> the total was $400.
>
> A bit too steep for me. I was hoping they'd be about $65 a wire or less.
> Lead time is 12 weeks since they come from overseas.
>
> So..... I have decided to do stainless 1/8" cable. I called AS&S today
and
> had them custom make me the cables with forks swaged on one end. The
other
> end I will nicopress to a cable eye which screws into the turnbuckle
barrel.
> The nicopress and turnbuckles will be hidden inside the instument panel.
> The visible end of the wires will have no "ugly" nicopress clamps... only
> clean looking stainless swaged forks. Total cost for all the wires,
forks,
> barrels, cable eyes, clevis pins & cotter pins and swaging fees was $150.
>
> Only bummer is there's a 4 week lead time on them. The center section
> construction will have to wait til then.
>
> DJ Vegh
> N74DV
> Mesa, AZ
> www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>
>
> _
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cabane x-bracing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
good idea Craig.
I already placed the order for cabane cables and it's in motion......
For my tail wires I'm going to be using some Starduster II stainless
streamline Brunton wires that I already have here in the shop. I priced
them out too... they woulda cost $1200. It'll take some modifications to
the tail to get them to fit but it'll sure look nice!
I got them for almost nothing last year. :-)
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox"
<CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
>
> DJ -
> Do it the way I did my tail wires - find a friendly local machine shop,
and
> have them thread some 3/16" stainless, one end left, one end right. The
> AN662 fittings will then screw on, with check nuts, and you will be set.
> You can even have them machine the little flat that helps turn them for
> adjustments. My wires were about $10 each, plus the fittings (they
average
> $12 ea as an assembly).
> Craig
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > I got to thinking that it may be cool to use stainless streamline wires
> for
> > the cabane x-bracing.
> >
> > I called Steen Aero Lab , the only US distributor of Bruntons. Bruntons
> is
> > one of the VERY few companies who make flying wires. They are in
> Scotland.
> >
> > For streamlined stainless cabane wires with AN clevis ends and check
nuts
> > the total was $400.
> >
> > A bit too steep for me. I was hoping they'd be about $65 a wire or
less.
> > Lead time is 12 weeks since they come from overseas.
> >
> > So..... I have decided to do stainless 1/8" cable. I called AS&S today
> and
> > had them custom make me the cables with forks swaged on one end. The
> other
> > end I will nicopress to a cable eye which screws into the turnbuckle
> barrel.
> > The nicopress and turnbuckles will be hidden inside the instument panel.
> > The visible end of the wires will have no "ugly" nicopress clamps...
only
> > clean looking stainless swaged forks. Total cost for all the wires,
> forks,
> > barrels, cable eyes, clevis pins & cotter pins and swaging fees was
$150.
> >
> > Only bummer is there's a 4 week lead time on them. The center section
> > construction will have to wait til then.
> >
> > DJ Vegh
> > N74DV
> > Mesa, AZ
> > www.imagedv.com/aircamper
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cabane x-bracing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Do you know if they roll the threads or cut them?
Jim Ash
At 7/8/2003 09:24 PM -0400, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox"
><CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
>
>DJ -
>Do it the way I did my tail wires - find a friendly local machine shop, and
>have them thread some 3/16" stainless, one end left, one end right. The
>AN662 fittings will then screw on, with check nuts, and you will be set.
>You can even have them machine the little flat that helps turn them for
>adjustments. My wires were about $10 each, plus the fittings (they average
>$12 ea as an assembly).
>Craig
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > I got to thinking that it may be cool to use stainless streamline wires
>for
> > the cabane x-bracing.
> >
> > I called Steen Aero Lab , the only US distributor of Bruntons. Bruntons
>is
> > one of the VERY few companies who make flying wires. They are in
>Scotland.
> >
> > For streamlined stainless cabane wires with AN clevis ends and check nuts
> > the total was $400.
> >
> > A bit too steep for me. I was hoping they'd be about $65 a wire or less.
> > Lead time is 12 weeks since they come from overseas.
> >
> > So..... I have decided to do stainless 1/8" cable. I called AS&S today
>and
> > had them custom make me the cables with forks swaged on one end. The
>other
> > end I will nicopress to a cable eye which screws into the turnbuckle
>barrel.
> > The nicopress and turnbuckles will be hidden inside the instument panel.
> > The visible end of the wires will have no "ugly" nicopress clamps... only
> > clean looking stainless swaged forks. Total cost for all the wires,
>forks,
> > barrels, cable eyes, clevis pins & cotter pins and swaging fees was $150.
> >
> > Only bummer is there's a 4 week lead time on them. The center section
> > construction will have to wait til then.
> >
> > DJ Vegh
> > N74DV
> > Mesa, AZ
> > www.imagedv.com/aircamper
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Woodflier@aol.com
I'll be flying to Oshkosh.. in a wood airplane.. but not the Piet.. not this
year. I hope next year. Look for the tan, orange and white Bellanca triple
tail up around Row 20 in North 40. I bet we could scare up a cold beverage or two
for your trouble. I'll bring pics of my Piet project. Oh, and I plan on
hopping over to Brodhead on Saturday too. Hope to see some of you there.
Matt Paxton
Bellanca N8866R
Piet on landing gear, getting ready for the engine mount.
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| Subject: | cabane x-bracing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Arthur Johnson" <aejohnson@email.com>
DJ,
I can organise you swaged Ronstan forks on whatever length 1/8th cable you
like at cost, (no charge for swageing, we do it in house) Ronstan
RF1508-0404 are $12USD each and 1/8th 316 7 X 19 cable is less than a buck a
metre. Air mail to States would be less than $20 and would take about a
week. If you want further info I can send you digital photos off line. I am
useing these swaged terminals for my shoulder harness in my Piet.
Cheers,
Arthur Johnson
Piet and Corvair builder in Oz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Ash
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
Do you know if they roll the threads or cut them?
Jim Ash
At 7/8/2003 09:24 PM -0400, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox"
><CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
>
>DJ -
>Do it the way I did my tail wires - find a friendly local machine shop, and
>have them thread some 3/16" stainless, one end left, one end right. The
>AN662 fittings will then screw on, with check nuts, and you will be set.
>You can even have them machine the little flat that helps turn them for
>adjustments. My wires were about $10 each, plus the fittings (they average
>$12 ea as an assembly).
>Craig
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: cabane x-bracing
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > I got to thinking that it may be cool to use stainless streamline wires
>for
> > the cabane x-bracing.
> >
> > I called Steen Aero Lab , the only US distributor of Bruntons. Bruntons
>is
> > one of the VERY few companies who make flying wires. They are in
>Scotland.
> >
> > For streamlined stainless cabane wires with AN clevis ends and check
nuts
> > the total was $400.
> >
> > A bit too steep for me. I was hoping they'd be about $65 a wire or
less.
> > Lead time is 12 weeks since they come from overseas.
> >
> > So..... I have decided to do stainless 1/8" cable. I called AS&S today
>and
> > had them custom make me the cables with forks swaged on one end. The
>other
> > end I will nicopress to a cable eye which screws into the turnbuckle
>barrel.
> > The nicopress and turnbuckles will be hidden inside the instument panel.
> > The visible end of the wires will have no "ugly" nicopress clamps...
only
> > clean looking stainless swaged forks. Total cost for all the wires,
>forks,
> > barrels, cable eyes, clevis pins & cotter pins and swaging fees was
$150.
> >
> > Only bummer is there's a 4 week lead time on them. The center section
> > construction will have to wait til then.
> >
> > DJ Vegh
> > N74DV
> > Mesa, AZ
> > www.imagedv.com/aircamper
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
I've taken another major step towards completion of the fuselage over the last
few days... I've been working on the turtledeck. I looked up all the posts on
how others have done it, tried a few different ways and finally found something
that worked for me. This was a totally frustrating experience as I did not
expect this to be that difficult. I've read posts of some people doing this
in a few hours... After I've tried different methods I came up with one (maybe
not original) that I could probably do in about 6 hours if I were to do it
again.
I used Home Depot cedar lumber for the stringers - 1/4" x 1 1/4" is what seemed
to stick in my mind after a visit to Dels project last fall.
Has anyone tried putting the "helmet box" in after the turtledeck is installed?
I kinda figured I wouldn't want it, but now am reconsidering. I would think
a router with a decent jig set up would make a nice cut-out.
Anyway, I'll have photos of the turtledeck installation on the web in a few days
in case anyone's interested. Now that this is done, I'm wondering what to tackle
next... Maybe the tail section...
Looking forward to Brodhead!
Tom Brant
Brooklyn Park, MN
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Anderson" <piet4ken@mindspring.com>
Steve
Mary and I will be arriving Fri via Winnebago
Ken
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
>
> Steve E will be there Saturday. C182. Next year in the piet for the
> 75'th.
>
> Stevee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Christian Bobka
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
> <bobka@compuserve.com>
>
> Bobka will be to brodhead for friday saturday (in a Cessna 140) and then
> OSHKOSH for tues wed but driving and camping.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >
> > Brodhead Thursday-Sunday am.....Oshkosh Sunday afternoon-Saturday
> am.......
> >
> > I'm also taking a digital still camera (and video)....but this year I
> think
> > I'll focus on a part of the plane....then move the camera a little to
> some
> > other part close to where I WAS going to take the picture.....I'm sick
> and
> > tired of looking at pictures and wishing I had gotten a shot of "that
> area
> > RIGHT NEXT to where I took the picture".....
> >
> > If you know what I mean......
> >
> > Jim in Plano
> > NX25JM
> >
> > Making great progress on my Air Camper project!!!!! I'm just 3 or 4
> hours
> > away from completing 2 knotty pine night stands for my wife....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Rickards" <krickards@cvci.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oshkosh
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken Rickards
> <krickards@cvci.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Just a quick question! Who on the list will be going to Oshkosh
> this
> > year,
> > > flying or driving. I'm going armed with my digital camera, ready to
> get
> > as
> > > many ideas as I can, from the more experienced builders and flyers.
> I
> > would
> > > love to meet with anyone that's going!
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > GN1 2992
> > >
> > > Canada
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: large lift struts |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Good idea. Sometimes we become obsessed
with achieving lightness. What we're dealing
with is "risk management". We have to balance
strength vrs. lightness with regard to safety and
peace of mind. I'm going to use a fork system
as well. The forks are sitting here. Things have
gotten sidetracked now that I have acquired
these two Corvair engines. Another project!
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: large lift struts
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> Clif,
>
> great post but..... the bolt I am talking about is the fork that threads
> into the end of the lift strut. It has 7/16-20 threads. My concern is
it
> would not be wise to use aluminum that has "homemade" cut threads into it.
> If those threads fail then so does the strut and from there it's all over.
>
> I'd feel much safer with a 4130 steel bar and have a machine shop thread
it.
>
> Although 7075 aluminum would be alot stronger than 6061 or 2024 and
> certainly lighter than steel bar....
>
> I dunno .... I guess I'll worry about this when I get to it.
>
>
> DJ Vegh
> N74DV
> Mesa, AZ
> www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>
>
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