---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/13/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:47 AM - Re: go / no-go dimensions (Cy Galley) 2. 05:51 AM - go dimensions for nicopress (Christian Bobka) 3. 05:56 AM - Re: go / no-go dimensions (Christian Bobka) 4. 06:14 AM - more on the go gauge for nicopress (Christian Bobka) 5. 11:44 AM - Re: go / no-go dimensions (Cy Galley) 6. 05:16 PM - Wing to Center Section Gap Covers (Dick and Marge Gillespie) 7. 06:38 PM - Re: Wing to Center Section Gap Covers (Isablcorky@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:02 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Yes p7-34 Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com Actively supporting Aeroncas every day Quarterly newsletters on time Reasonable document reprints 1-518-731-6800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > Are not the specs for the go no go in Ac 43? > > Chris Bobka > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DJ Vegh > To: > Subject: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > > > does anyone have a nicopress go/no-go guage they could measure with a set > of > > calipers? > > > > I need to know what the acceptable thickness is for a 1/8" copper sleeve > > after being compressed. I can't find my go/no-go guage anywhere and I > want > > to see if my nicopress tool is working properly. > > > > DJ Vegh > > N74DV > > Mesa, AZ > > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > > > > - > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:48 AM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Pietenpol-List: go dimensions for nicopress --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" DJ, Here is what my tool from ATS measures out to. The gauge is simply a "go" gauge. If a slot of the following width can slip over the major dimension of each groove of the compressed part of the nicopress, then it is good to go. 1/16" oval sleeve both are .185" 1/16" stop sleeve 3/32" oval sleeve all three are .256" 3/32" stop sleeve 1/8" stop sleeve 1/8" oval sleeve all four are .340" 5/32" stop sleeve 3/16" stop sleeve 7/32" stop sleeve It appears that the AC 43 merely has the go no go for the swaged type cable ends. Seems the book could have been better by including the above dimensions considering all the useless sneers it contains about safety. chris bobka ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:22 AM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" Cy, Not in my book. It gives length after swaging but that is not very useful. chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Cy Galley Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > Yes p7-34 > Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club > Newsletter Editor & EAA TC > www.bellanca-championclub.com > Actively supporting Aeroncas every day > Quarterly newsletters on time > Reasonable document reprints > 1-518-731-6800 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christian Bobka" > To: > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > > > > Are not the specs for the go no go in Ac 43? > > > > Chris Bobka > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: DJ Vegh > > To: > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > > > > > does anyone have a nicopress go/no-go guage they could measure with a > set > > of > > > calipers? > > > > > > I need to know what the acceptable thickness is for a 1/8" copper sleeve > > > after being compressed. I can't find my go/no-go guage anywhere and I > > want > > > to see if my nicopress tool is working properly. > > > > > > DJ Vegh > > > N74DV > > > Mesa, AZ > > > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:16 AM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Pietenpol-List: more on the go gauge for nicopress --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" DJ, I found the following dimesions in EAA Aircraft Volume One File Number 6 on Aircraft Homebuilding Tips, page 34. It is an article from some early 60's issue of Sport Aviation by Kalman E. Saufnauer, EAA 1201. The drawing of the gauge is by Stan Dzik, EAA 15. It appears that the article addresses oval sleeves only. Why the minor disparities with my gauge, I don't know. 1/16" sleeve .190-.195" go dimension 3/32" sleeve .255-.265" go dimension 1/8" sleeve .343-.353" go dimension 5/32" sleeve .380-.390" go dimension Chris Bobka ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:21 AM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Sorry I did not look closely enough. Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com Actively supporting Aeroncas every day Quarterly newsletters on time Reasonable document reprints 1-518-731-6800 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > Cy, > > Not in my book. It gives length after swaging but that is not very useful. > > chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cy Galley > To: > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" > > > > Yes p7-34 > > Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club > > Newsletter Editor & EAA TC > > www.bellanca-championclub.com > > Actively supporting Aeroncas every day > > Quarterly newsletters on time > > Reasonable document reprints > > 1-518-731-6800 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christian Bobka" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > > > > > > > Are not the specs for the go no go in Ac 43? > > > > > > Chris Bobka > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: DJ Vegh > > > To: > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: go / no-go dimensions > > > > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > > > > > > > > does anyone have a nicopress go/no-go guage they could measure with a > > set > > > of > > > > calipers? > > > > > > > > I need to know what the acceptable thickness is for a 1/8" copper > sleeve > > > > after being compressed. I can't find my go/no-go guage anywhere and I > > > want > > > > to see if my nicopress tool is working properly. > > > > > > > > DJ Vegh > > > > N74DV > > > > Mesa, AZ > > > > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:52 PM PST US From: "Dick and Marge Gillespie" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing to Center Section Gap Covers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick and Marge Gillespie" What style aluminum is generally used for these gap covers? I thought I'd use some leftover .010 but is seems way too light. Also, thanks for the response to the W & B question and one other question I asked before that that I can't remember. DickG. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:13 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing to Center Section Gap Covers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Dick, Stretch it tight,screw it down and don't worry. It's not going anywhere. Corky with heavier alum which I don't need.