Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:58 AM - Re: A-65 magneto questions (Cy Galley)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: A-65 magneto questions (Dick and Marge Gillespie)
3. 05:45 AM - Re: Authentic lettering style (Stefan Vorkoetter)
4. 09:17 AM - Re: A-65 magneto questions (Richard Navratril)
5. 09:21 AM - Re: introduction and -- where's the cargo go? (Jeff Cours)
6. 09:32 AM - storage/baggage (Michael D Cuy)
7. 09:37 AM - center section cutout---and wing baggage (Michael D Cuy)
8. 09:47 AM - Piet For Sale (TomTravis@aol.com)
9. 09:59 AM - Re: Piet For Sale (Jim Markle)
10. 11:04 AM - Continental Mags (Seibert Bob-r18643)
11. 02:08 PM - Re: Stevee needs A-65 help (Steve Eldredge)
12. 08:56 PM - Brodhead (Brants)
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 magneto questions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
You should have Slick 4333, 4330,4302, Bendix S4-20, S4-200, Eisemann
LA-4,AM-4 if you have a A-series engine or a C-85 without a starter. They
have to be set up for the proper rotation. If you take a mag off a C-85
that has a starter, It will not work as it is set up for the opposite
rotation. If you have an impulse, it must be wound the proper direction.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 magneto questions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
<bconoly@earthlink.net>
>
> Group:
>
> I need to decide what mags to use. I have borrowed a set of Scintillas
but they aren't firing.
> I've pulled this prop till I'm about dead - not even a pop.
> Is there a supplier of re-built mags out there or do I have to bite the
bullet and pay 1200 bucks for new ones.
>
> I'm down to just the mags to make this thing run.
>
> Thanks;
> Bert (who's wishing he'd spent the last 8 years working on his golf swing
instead)
> http://bconoly.tripod.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 magneto questions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick and Marge Gillespie" <margdick@peganet.com>
Bert,
Try Howard Libersky "Magneto Man" in Okeechobee. His number is
863/467-6464. He went over mine and they do good.
DickG. in Ft.Myers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 magneto questions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
<bconoly@earthlink.net>
>
> Group:
>
> I need to decide what mags to use. I have borrowed a set of Scintillas
but they aren't firing.
> I've pulled this prop till I'm about dead - not even a pop.
> Is there a supplier of re-built mags out there or do I have to bite the
bullet and pay 1200 bucks for new ones.
>
> I'm down to just the mags to make this thing run.
>
> Thanks;
> Bert (who's wishing he'd spent the last 8 years working on his golf swing
instead)
> http://bconoly.tripod.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Authentic lettering style |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Stefan Vorkoetter <stefan@capable.ca>
clif wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
>
> Go to www.mykitplane.com
> then Picture Gallery
> then Clif Dawson,
> then Pietenpol
> then to the very last picture.
Or go directly to
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/PeoplesPlanes/Lettering_guide.jpg
Stefan
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| Subject: | Re: A-65 magneto questions |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Hi Bert
I had the same problem when I tried starting up. Shoulders hurt for days.
When you timed the mags it should have given an indication if there was a
connection for spark. In my case there were two problems, the idler needle
valve on the carb was in way too tight, I installed a primer, and some gum I
missed in cleaning the carb in a small port. Now I am taking it apart again
because of a sticking float valve in the carb.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 magneto questions
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
<bconoly@earthlink.net>
>
> Group:
>
> I need to decide what mags to use. I have borrowed a set of Scintillas
but they aren't firing.
> I've pulled this prop till I'm about dead - not even a pop.
> Is there a supplier of re-built mags out there or do I have to bite the
bullet and pay 1200 bucks for new ones.
>
> I'm down to just the mags to make this thing run.
>
> Thanks;
> Bert (who's wishing he'd spent the last 8 years working on his golf swing
instead)
> http://bconoly.tripod.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: introduction and -- where's the cargo go? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
Christian Bobka wrote:
> Why the mode C?
Unfortunately, the two nearby airports (San Carlos and Palo Alto) are
both within San Francisco International's mode C veil. I'm not too
worried about installing mode C, though one of the things I'm pondering
as I decide whether or not to build a Piet is that I'd be flying it out
of some crowded, tower controlled airports with concrete runways and
fairly complex airspace -- not exactly a Piet's native environment. So,
it'd probably need to pick up some extra equipment, which starts to
detract from its simplicity. On the other hand, I really like the fact
that it has a nice, slow cruise speed, which would give me plenty of
time to figure out which way I need to go next so I don't fly through
the wrong airspace on my way out to the wide open places.
- Jeff C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Like Frank Pavliga and his father did, I opted to put in a fuel tank behind
the firewall (all aluminum, 17 gallons) and left the entire center section
open for baggage. I outlined the center section top in plywood and hinged
a long rectangle of .024" 2024T3 alum. sheet to the front edge w/ two
latches toward the rear. I made the normal behind the seat box a flat
plate of plywood that is glued too the bottom edges of the top longerons
back to the first bay. I can stick my hand back there all the way up to
almost my shoulder. (note you don't want to put anything too heavy back
there tho for CG considerations.) I put things like rags, cleaning spray,
charts, etcs. there.) I made the front stick removeable and had a local
upholstery shop sew me up a black canvas sack that I snap into the front
cockpit along both upper longerons, the front seat, and under the front
instrument panel. The sack has a "U" shape to it so it doesn't interfere
with my feet on the rudder bar. Nor does the sack go very far forward of
the instrument panel so it does not interfere with the front rudder
pedals. Finally, I had the same upholstery shop make up some
cloth-backed brown vinyl cockpit covers that snap around each cockpit
perimeter on top that I keep in place when not flying or parked outside
overnight. When using the front baggage sack on x-country trips, after
everything is loaded (sleeping bag, tent, clothes, camera, pillows and
teddy bear) I snap that front cockpit cover back on over the whole mess and
go flying. The plane really carrys alot of schtuff in this configuration
and when packing up after a weekend somewhere I'm amazed at how much we can
carry.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | center section cutout---and wing baggage |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
One thing I forgot to mention is that I opted to put in a wing cutout in
the aft portion of the center section with a hand hold. (you know, the
dreaded cutout that the Jenny and Stearm had that caused them so many
crashes and drag and turbulence over the tail ?? :))) Too funny. Who
cares about drag in a Piet or turbulence ??? Your head causes more
turbulence than any wing cutout will ever cause. Anyway--I had to get that
off my chest before we got into a long discourse on the dreaded wing center
section cutout and the great loss of lift and all. The point being is
that the wing cutout helps those of us with big bellies to stand up in our
rear seat and poke around in the wing center section baggage area. Frank
P. has the same setup and I do but needs a ladder to access his baggage
area since he has neither the wing cutout or the flop. Think about it.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
There's an ad in today's Dallas Morning News:
"Pieten Pol- Corvair nice- serious -$8K. 817-249-2636 or cell 817-692-6742"
Message 9
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| Subject: | Re: Piet For Sale |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Looks like the one from the October 2002 BPA Newsletter:
1981Corvair Pietenpol, NX16PK, spare engine and propellor, was 12K. The ad
also said no tire kickers please.....(understandable but darn it, I wanna go
see it!!!)
The ad said something about Benbrook, like maybe that's a Fort Worth area
airport?
Anyway, might be a bargain at 8K.....
On to Brodhead!!!!!!!!!!
Jim in Plano.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <TomTravis@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet For Sale
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
>
> There's an ad in today's Dallas Morning News:
>
> "Pieten Pol- Corvair nice- serious -$8K. 817-249-2636 or cell
817-692-6742"
>
>
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| Subject: | Continental Mags |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Seibert Bob-r18643 <Bob.Seibert@motorola.com>
I forget who had some mag problems but I stumbled across this ebay item
Mags and harness.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26439&item=2424031200> &category=26439&item=2424031200
They were going pretty cheap when I saw them.
Regards,
Bob Seibert
NX23TX - Its inspected but the Airspeed is DOA
Flys next week?
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| Subject: | Stevee needs A-65 help |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
My inserts are steel and I was guessing the rod was brass. That is what
it looked like. Thanks a ton for the info folks!
Seeking some old hand A&P to do the work,
Steve E.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Galley
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stevee needs A-65 help
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Manual doesn't say. The insert is brass. From what others have said,
they
are probably brass as well. The insert for the A-65, C-75 or C-85 is
#2002
and are available in oversize of 0.003, 0.006, 0.009 in case your
cylinder
threads are loose.
The pin # is 22256 but one could make one out of 1/8" brazing rod. Their
only function is to prevent the insert from rotating and to shear if the
insert is stuck to the plug. It is a good idea to always use
anti-seize.
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
Reasonable document reprints
1-518-731-6800
----- Original Message -----
From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stevee needs A-65 help
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans"
<wbeevans@verizon.net>
>
> Cy,
> Are they in fact brass with a brass pin?
> walt evans
> NX140DL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stevee needs A-65 help
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> > The part manual lists them as 1/8" by 3/8"
> >
> > Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
> > Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
> > www.bellanca-championclub.com
> > Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
> > Quarterly newsletters on time
> > Reasonable document reprints
> > 1-518-731-6800
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stevee needs A-65 help
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans"
<wbeevans@verizon.net>
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > My AP had replaced a couple for me. They look like brass with a
brass
> > pin.
> > > walt evans
> > > NX140DL
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
> > > To: "Pietenpol List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stevee needs A-65 help
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge"
<steve@byu.edu>
> > > >
> > > > Changing spark plugs and ignition harness to Shielded.
> > > >
> > > > All the plugs were tight, but two of the bottom plugs were very,
very
> > > > tight. I finally removed them, but when they came out they
looked
too
> > > > big. Then I realized that I had torqued out a steel insert from
the
> > > > jug, shearing a locking pin in the process. I separated the
insert
> and
> > > > plug at home using a vise and an impact wrench. My question is
NOW
> > > > WHAT!? I hope I'm not in the unenviable position of having to
> rebuild
> > > > two cylinders.... Does anyone know what material the lock pin
is
for
> > > > the insert? Any suggestions appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Steve E.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
I will be among the people who can't make it this year.... Made it last year for
the first time and there were only a few airplanes there. I hear that is not
the norm... I'm bummed I'll be missing out but hopefully people will take
photos and share some good tales.
Have fun!
Tom Brant, Brooklyn Park, MN
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