---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/27/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:35 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Carbarvo@aol.com) 2. 01:04 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Isablcorky@aol.com) 3. 02:11 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Isablcorky@aol.com) 4. 02:14 PM - Brodhead (John Ford) 5. 03:09 PM - Decision (Isablcorky@aol.com) 6. 03:48 PM - Re: Decision (w b evans) 7. 04:11 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 8. 04:26 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Isablcorky@aol.com) 9. 04:42 PM - Re: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer (Waytogopiet@aol.com) 10. 06:47 PM - Re: thumbs up or down?? (Gene Rambo) 11. 07:17 PM - Re: thumbs up or down?? (w b evans) 12. 07:24 PM - Re: Decision (John Ford) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:20 PM PST US From: Carbarvo@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com Do you think you could get close enough by calibrating it yourself? If it's for use on your Piet, you could suspend a known weight from a piece of 3/32 cable, to produce a known tension in the cable. My problem is I don't know anything about the required tensions in the various cables in the Piet. I have just finished my wing panels and I guessed at the tension......Any suggestions?....Carl V. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:36 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Carl, No intention to barge in a discussion: On the subject of cable tensions I asked for and received next to nil when I started to complete my wings soooooooo I turned buckles, measured, turned buckles, measured some more until I thought they were tight enough to hold the thing in shape then I proceded to tune the cables as you would the strings on a bull fiddle or a Fender. I used the same procedure for the cabanne cables as well as the wing strut cables. It equalizes the tension more accurately than could ever be done with a tool. Couldn't use the same technic on the tail feather cables as they are 1/16 and the pitch would be too high for my hearing range as my highs went with WWII. Try it, it might work for you. Corky ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:37 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Sorry, I forgot to add that the sounds should be the same only on the cables of similiar lengths. Corky, beginning to not remember everything. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:52 PM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" Wow. I'd never been before. Next year I'm bringing my wife and kids. Got to ride in the Orange Ford Piet - very cool... John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:01 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Decision --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Pieters, Am at the point of decision as to whether I go with a single nose tank, not as yet fabricated, or a nose and c/s tank. The wing tank has a capacity of 9.3 gals and/ or the nose tank could be 10 gals w/ c/s tank or 16 gal without the c/s tank. There are positives and negatives either way. If both tanks are available, use the wing tank with a passenger. When solo use only the nose tank. There are many other factors I'm sure but I would appreciate some noise on this subject as decision time is now. If both tanks are available I could almost fly from La to see the fisherman. Corky ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:53 PM PST US From: "w b evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Decision --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" Corky, Since I used to fly U/L's with always keeping an eye on the 5 gallons, with this Piet I put a 10 gal center section tank, and a 14 gallon nose tank. Went to the 100LL gas guy the other day and it cost $45.00 to top up. Whew!! Oh well, I know they are there, even though I don't have to fill them. I may be able to reach the fisherman from Northern NJ!!!!! walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Decision > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com > > > Pieters, > > Am at the point of decision as to whether I go with a single nose tank, not > as yet fabricated, or a nose and c/s tank. The wing tank has a capacity of 9.3 > gals and/ or the nose tank could be 10 gals w/ c/s tank or 16 gal without the > c/s tank. > There are positives and negatives either way. > If both tanks are available, use the wing tank with a passenger. When solo > use only the nose tank. There are many other factors I'm sure but I would > appreciate some noise on this subject as decision time is now. > If both tanks are available I could almost fly from La to see the fisherman. > > Corky > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:18 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com Corky...Your finger twanging tensiometer system sounds great, but does it still work when the wires are touching at the mid-point (or the 'button' spacers). and gee, Walt and Corky...Do you REALLY want to see the Fisherman? Don Hicks ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:43 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Just pull the other cable out of the way so the cable will vibrate it's full amplitude. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:25 PM PST US From: Waytogopiet@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pacific Scientific T5 cable tensiometer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com In a message dated 7/27/2003 6:27:20 PM Central Standard Time, Isablcorky@aol.com writes: > Just pull the other cable out of the way so the cable will vibrate it's > full > amplitude. > Of course Corky. Boy, I didn't think THAT one out !! Guess I'll pull the "buttons" off and try your method. Thanks Don ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:42 PM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: thumbs up or down?? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" We've got a spider who has been building a web on the front door of our house for about a week and a half now. It's not just tied to the front door, it is built around the front door handle as if he is trying to make it unusable. I don't know that I have the guts to kill him, ya know, anybody with that level of optimism and tenacity . . . like he is really going to entrap two adult humans. Kind of reminds you of a Piet builder, don't it? What do you guys think, thumbs up or down????? Gene (really tired and relaxed after Brodhead) Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:17:27 PM PST US From: "w b evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: thumbs up or down?? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" I say use the back door for awhile. walt evans NX140DL we all have a reason on this earth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: thumbs up or down?? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" > > We've got a spider who has been building a web on the front door of our > house for about a week and a half now. It's not just tied to the front > door, it is built around the front door handle as if he is trying to make it > unusable. > > I don't know that I have the guts to kill him, ya know, anybody with that > level of optimism and tenacity . . . like he is really going to entrap two > adult humans. Kind of reminds you of a Piet builder, don't it? > > What do you guys think, thumbs up or down????? > > > Gene > (really tired and relaxed after Brodhead) > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:20 PM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Decision --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" Corky, I got to check out Michael Cuy's beautiful machine with the nose tank and storage in the center section at Brodhead. That center section holds a lot of stuff, and he doesn't seem to have endurance issues with the nose tank (though I did not talk to him about that). I like the thought of being able to hold charts/laptop/toothpaste, etc., up there out of the way, and the nose tank probably helps out with CG issues. Speaking of M. Cuy, he has got a killer smoke system. Absolutely killer. And ingeniously simple. I want one for my car... John (still jazzed about Brodhead) John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> Isablcorky@aol.com Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:08:20 PM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Pieters, Am at the point of decision as to whether I go with a single nose tank, not as yet fabricated, or a nose and c/s tank. The wing tank has a capacity of 9.3 gals and/ or the nose tank could be 10 gals w/ c/s tank or 16 gal without the c/s tank. There are positives and negatives either way. If both tanks are available, use the wing tank with a passenger. When solo use only the nose tank. There are many other factors I'm sure but I would appreciate some noise on this subject as decision time is now. If both tanks are available I could almost fly from La to see the fisherman. Corky