---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/06/03: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:21 AM - Re: bad news (Al Latham) 2. 06:03 AM - Hughes Racer (Michael D Cuy) 3. 06:47 AM - Re: Piet winner at Oshkosh (Michael D Cuy) 4. 08:35 AM - Re: tail brace wire hardware (Gary Gower) 5. 10:43 AM - Hughes Racer (Sayre, William G) 6. 12:43 PM - Re: tail brace wire hardware (Carbarvo@aol.com) 7. 03:11 PM - Brodhead/Oshkosh Pictures (Jim Markle) 8. 07:21 PM - Re: Piet winner at Oshkosh (Alex Sloan) 9. 10:12 PM - Big Adventure (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:08 AM PST US From: "Al Latham" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: bad news --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" Yes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: bad news > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > Was it Jim Wright that was lost? > > chris bobka > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Latham" > To: > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: bad news > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > > > > Hi Christian, > > > > Sad news indeed, I found out at lunch time today about it. My partner and > I > > were supplying > > Jim with some drawings for what was to be his next project, a Lockheed > > Sirius. We lost a > > fantastic man and flying machine yesterday. > > > > Al Latham, > > Lathrop, MO. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christian Bobka" > > To: "pietenpol" ; "taylorcraft" > > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: bad news > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > > > > > > > Replica of Howard Hughes plane crashes in Yellowstone > > > > > > > > > rwbhopvs > > > > > > YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, Wyo. (AP) - Federal investigators on Tuesday > > were called to the site of a fatal airplane crash. > > > > > > One person was killed Monday evening when an experimental plane crashed > > north of Old Faithful in Yellowstone National Park, the Federal Aviation > > Administration said. > > > > > > The Hughes 1B - the only replica of a record-breaking racer designed and > > flown by Howard Hughes in 1935 - was en route from Oshkosh, Wis., to > Oregon > > when the crash occurred, spokeswoman Karen Byrd said. > > > > > > The pilot was the only person on board but was not identified pending > > notification of relatives. > > > > > > The plane's registered owners were James and Betty Wright of Cottage > > Grove, Ore., according to the FAA's Web site. > > > > > > The crash started a small fire near Midway Geyser Basin, but it was > > immediately contained by park fire crews, park spokeswoman Marsha Karle > > said. > > > > > > Several park visitors witnessed the crash and phoned 911. The crash was > > near the Firehole River next to the main park road, which was closed for a > > period Monday evening. > > > > > > Hughes designed the original H-1B, which is at the Smithsonian > Institution > > in Washington, D.C. In 1935, he flew that aircraft to a new speed record > and > > for a brief period of time was the fastest person ever to pilot an > airplane. > > > > > > The replica was built in 2002 from scratch by a five-man team after > > hundreds of hours studying photographs, drawings, test results and > > measurements of the original plane. > > > > > > --- > > > > > > On the Net: > > > > > > Federal Aviation Administration: http://www.faa.gov > > > > > > Yellowstone National Park: http://www.nps.gov/yell/ > > > > > > Information on the Hughes H1-B: http://www.wrightools.com/hughes > > > > > > > > > AP-WS-08-05-03 1136EDT > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:01 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hughes Racer --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Probably many of you on the list saw this gorgeous plane glistening in the sun on the ramp at Oshkosh last week. More cameras were clicking there than anywhere else on the field. The owner and his wife were relaxing under the left wing in some folding chairs talking with some friends. Last Friday I stood 4 feet away from this man and his plane, not wanting to bother him I just stood and admired the fantastic replica he brought to life. How swift sometimes aviation can change lives. Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:04 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet winner at Oshkosh --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Larry--- Well deserved award for you ! And to think that several of us had to coerce you into putting the "judge me" sticker on your EAA info card that you slip over the propeller. You DO have a pretty Pietenpol !!!! Mike C. Please DO archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:14 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail brace wire hardware --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower The ones I bought, (from bicycle, big motorcycle and from an old Jaguar car wheel) have rolled threads, my only concern was the type of steel used in them... Is there a way to know? some place to have them checked out about the quality of the material used. If they are made from cold rolled, they are useless for us, remember that they are several spokes in each wheel, so they work in "team", I dont know how much pull they can resist as each (I think the threaded area is their weak link). I left the idea, a few yers ago for the AN bolt and strap method. Saludos Gary Gower. --- BARNSTMR@aol.com wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Not the same Terry Bowden that coached Auburn. My only claim to fame > will be > this Piet one day I hope. > Anyway....I found that the type of hardware I have and need is quite > similar > to that used for outboard bay wing brace wire on luscombes and > similar to > Piper pawnee tail brace wires. The Piper parts cost big $ from the > parts house. > The ferrules are very similar, maybe identical to the type used on > spoke > wheels. I am going to check with some motorcycle shops tomorrow. > Perhaps they can > fix me up with ferrules. Does anyone on the list know if spokes for > wheels > use rolled threads or cut threads? > Terry Bowden > ph (254) 715-4773 > fax (254) 853-3805 > > > > > > > > __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hughes Racer From: "Sayre, William G" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" While camping out at the Cottage Grove airport last year I was able to see the Hughes H-1B as they were getting ready for Reno. Even though they were busy, Jim Wright took the time to give us a look and gave each of us a nice handout with the original H1 and it's stats on one side and the replica on the other. He answered our silly questions and let us get up close and touch to our hearts desire. The plane was beautiful in design, their replica was beautiful workmanship and Jim Wright was beautiful in his sharing. We lost a lot with this one! do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:03 PM PST US From: Carbarvo@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail brace wire hardware --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com Those who have built wire wheels with wide hubs say "rolled" threads are stronger. (They usually quote Buchanan's Bike Shop in California.) At least one version of the plans calls for solid wire of (I think) 18 ga. for the tailfeathers. That turns out to be about .080" diameter. If you're interested, McMaster Carr in Atlanta is a source of soft temper, satin finished stainless steel wire.....Carl Vought ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:23 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead/Oshkosh Pictures --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" What a great time. Brodhead is wonderful. The people, the planes, the field.....just incredible. The thingy up at Whitman Field the following week is pretty good too, but BRODHEAD!!!! WOW!!! It was a treat putting some faces with names this year. A lot of very nice people, these Pietenpol fanatics! Last year I ran around looking for a ride (and got 2!) and trying to take it all in......this year I slowed down and just hung out with the crowd.....it just can't get any better.... I had to leave before everyone took to the air Saturday evening (to pick up my 3 oldest sons in Milwaukee, not a bad trade off....) but I was told that a lot of rides were given. That's great! I've had my ride and won't soon forget what a thrill the first one is. What a hoot to know how much someone is enjoying their first ride! My highlights? Got to meet Gene R, Skip G, Michael C. and break bread with Chuck G, Larry W and Bill R. Well, it just goes on and on..... Here are a few pictures..... Jim in Plano > To view Jim Markle's pictures at Shutterfly, > simply go to: > > > > (If you can't click on this link, try copying and pasting it > into your web browser.) > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:45 PM PST US From: "Alex Sloan" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet winner at Oshkosh --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" Congratulations Larry. Michael Cuy sent me some pictures of your beautiful plane. I hated missing Brodhead. Alex Sloan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cinda Gadd" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet winner at Oshkosh > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cinda Gadd" > > > Congratulations to Larry Williams his beautiful > A-Model Piet won the Outstanding Workmanship Plaque in the Homebuilt Plans Built > category. > > Great job Larry! > > > --- Skip Cinda Gadd > > --- csfog@earthlink.net > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:23 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Adventure --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com After a fly-by and a YEEE HAAWWW (to an audience of 5), I landed at Benton at 5:30pm, last Sunday evening, to bring the biggest adventure of my life to a safe end...till the next one. Had a great time, grueling at times, a couple of thwarted disasters, but I'm already looking forward to next year. The highlight of the trip was Brodhead...the people and the Pietenpols. Saturday evening at Brodhead was the best !! After a two porkchop dinner, everybody launched to the sky !! Best white knuckles flying I've ever done !! What a hoot !! It seemed like there were airplanes all over the sky. Mike C. kept puffing smoke, and there were formations comming together in several places, then they would break up, and others would form up. Planes landing and taking off, fly-bys, people going up for the first time in a Pietenpol. A big Congratulations to Larry Williams...well deserved credit for such fine workmanship. Chuck Gantzer