Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/19/03


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 12:11 AM - Re: cutting aircraft cable (clif)
     2. 07:12 AM - Re: Wood Prop & Rain (Alex Sloan)
     3. 07:29 AM - Re: Wood Prop & Rain (Gadd, Skip)
     4. 08:03 AM - To build or not to build (Jack Textor)
     5. 09:01 AM - Re: Wood Prop & Rain (Carbarvo@aol.com)
     6. 03:55 PM - Re: To build or not to build (Dave and Connie)
     7. 04:46 PM - Re: To build or not to build (Christian Bobka)
     8. 06:06 PM - Re: To build or not to build (Dave and Connie)
     9. 08:44 PM - piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Brants)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:11:40 AM PST US
    From: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: cutting aircraft cable
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> Dremels are great! go to your local hobbyshop and get the FIBRE discs. They cost more than the standard cheapo ones but last a lot longer and are considerably less frustrating to use as they don't fly to pieces at the merest whim. As far as the shrink tube, why not leave them loose until the inspector has come and gone? I've got a Foredom hanging in my shop. It's stronger than the Dremel and QUIET! Unfortunately it's also expensive. I liberated mine from the wife's jewelry making phase. Have to make do with what's available you know. Happy Landings, Clif Subject: Pietenpol-List: cutting aircraft cable > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > Howdy, folks; > > You know how all the tips and how-to's for cutting aircraft cable say to use > a cold chisel and hammer (including Bingelis' books)? The problem is, once > you've gotten your cable fitted and nicopressed in position, at least on one > end of the cable there is no way to get a chisel, hammer, or anything else > in there to do the cutting. So here's a nifty tip from one of the old > Pietenpol newsletters for when you've got the cable all nicopressed in place > and are ready to cut off the tag end. Take your Dremel tool with the small > abrasive cut-off wheel and use it to slice through the tag end! Slip a > small piece of stainless or other metal between the tag end and the standing > cable so your cutoff wheel doesn't nick the standing part of the cable as it > cuts through, and before you start cutting wrap the whole thing with some > masking tape to catch the cutoff bits of cable. > > And you did remember to slip a piece of heat-shrink tubing over the cable > before you fitted the cable and nico, didn't you? After cutting off the > excess cable and making sure everything is fitted, cover the nico and cut > end with heat shrink tubing (unless you're concerned about your inspector or > designee not being able to see that the cables are properly nico'd). > > Oscar Zuniga


    Message 2


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    Time: 07:12:09 AM PST US
    From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Wood Prop & Rain
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net> Chuck G., great story. Keep it going. I want to hear all about the full 29 hours in the air. Alex S. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rcaprd@aol.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood Prop & Rain > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > OK, here is another flying story, during my Big Adventure: > On the second leg of my return trip from Oshkosh, Sat. 8/2, enroute from > Iowa Co. Wisconsin (MRJ) to Mount Pleasant, Iowa (MPZ)...what turned out to be > one of the longer legs of my trip - 3 1/2 hours in the seat !! I was faced > with a beautiful panoramic view of the Mighty Mississippi River about 5 > stretching to 10 miles or more, out in front of me. Words simply cannot portray > this type of scenery. I was in 'The Zone', with thoughts of how our > civilization has progressed, and altered the scenery from how it must have looked before > humans were on earth. Holding the stick between my thumb and fingers, it was > a little bit bumpy, but my reflexes became used to letting 'er just ride it > out, instead of correcting for every bump. The earth was slowly slipping about > 1000 feet below my trusty wings, when all of a sudden...BAM !! Something > smacked me right on the forehead !! I thought a bolt or something fell off the > engine, when I noticed the drops of water crawling up my windscreen. My > thoughts instantly went to how rain can 'sandblast' a wood prop into a useless piece > of frayed wood. As I instantly rolled into a steep right bank & haul back on > the stick, my being was searching for any slight vibration, with thoughts of > the prop eroding into an out of balance block of hard wood, then shaking the > engine loose from the airframe, then becoming WAY tail heavy, I would spin in, > and that would be that. I was ready to shut 'er down, if any serious vibration > would be felt. After completing a 180 turn, it lasted what seemed like an > eternity, but actually maybe another 30 seconds. Drops were still on the > windscreen, but they just stayed there...no more crawlers. I was out of the rain. > Decision time. Go back to Iowa Co. Airport, or see if I can pick my way > through. Raising each wing tip, I could see what I was in. Towering cumulus to > the South, where I could see the showers under a portion of them, but directly > west looked like a wide path, judging by how the sun was shining on the earth. > I picked up a westerly heading for the 10 mile wide path cut in the clouds. > Approaching the Mighty Miss again, I always climb an extra 1000 feet, just in > case the engine conks out. Engines always seem to have a way of sputtering > when crossing a large body of water, or a forest. On this occasion, she never > skipped a beat !! After crossing the Miss, I just had to fly along the West > shore for a little while, just to take it all in. What a magnificent river !! > Way off course now, I had to locate my position with the chart I had strapped > on my lap board. This wasn't too difficult, because there are numerous > landmarks to refer to, and the ol' Piet just isn't fast enough to get lost...well, > almost...but that's another story. The rest of this leg consisted of picking > my way through the high clouds, enjoying every moment, and maintaining my > position with my finger on the chart. > > Chuck G. > NX770CG > logged 29.3 hours during my Big Adventure !! > >


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    Time: 07:29:18 AM PST US
    From: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
    Subject: Wood Prop & Rain
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov> Chuck, Great story, no excuses when I get home from work today, I'm going to do something on the Piet. Skip


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    Time: 08:03:34 AM PST US
    From: Jack Textor <Jack@personnelincorporated.com>
    Subject: To build or not to build
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jack Textor <Jack@personnelincorporated.com> Hi all, 2 years ago, I was deciding to build a Piet or RV8, well I started the RV. The empennage and wings are basically done. With 2 kids in college dollars are short. This has me looking at very long term to complete the RV. I probably should have gone with the Piet years ago...and maybe would have been flying by now. I need something to get me off center to start a Piet. If anyone knows of a un-started or barely started Piet, that might be the motivation I need to get going. Thanks to all ! Jack Do not archive this mess


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    Time: 09:01:36 AM PST US
    From: Carbarvo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Wood Prop & Rain
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com Chuck...I love it! C Vought


    Message 6


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    Time: 03:55:09 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: To build or not to build
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> At 09:56 AM 8/19/03 -0500, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jack Textor ><Jack@personnelincorporated.com> > >Hi all, >2 years ago, I was deciding to build a Piet or RV8, well I started the RV. >The empennage and wings are basically done. With 2 kids in college dollars >are short. This has me looking at very long term to complete the RV. I >probably should have gone with the Piet years ago...and maybe would have >been flying by now. I need something to get me off center to start a Piet. >If anyone knows of a un-started or barely started Piet, that might be the >motivation I need to get going. >Thanks to all ! >Jack Jack, I have the kit of spruce and the plans for a Piet. I have built half a dozen ribs. The rest of the wood is still in the shipping tubes. Where are you located? For Sale: Wood kit for Long Fuselage Pietenpol. Purchased in March of 1999 from Western Aircraft Supply. I have built 6 ribs since then. All other wood is still in the shipping tubes. This is all of the spruce to build a Pietenpol Aircamper. I will include the already built ribs and a rib jig. Full set of plans purchased from the Pietenpol family. Includes 3 piece wing and Corvair sheets. Reprint package of BPA newsletters from July 83 - 2nd Quarter 99. This is the set that Mike Bill put together a few years back. Wood is located in Retsof, NY which is about 5 miles from Geneseo (D52). I will not ship it and will not sell the plans or newletters seperately unless the wood is already gone. I will deliver within about 100 miles of Geneseo (US only). $1600 for all. If you think it is too much let me know what you think it is worth. Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65


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    Time: 04:46:09 PM PST US
    From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
    Subject: Re: To build or not to build
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Dave, I don't know where you live but I am driving an empty car back from CT to Minneapolis sometime in October/early November. I could get this stuff from Retsof west for you. Chris bobka----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave and Connie" <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: To build or not to build > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> > > At 09:56 AM 8/19/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jack Textor > ><Jack@personnelincorporated.com> > > > >Hi all, > >2 years ago, I was deciding to build a Piet or RV8, well I started the RV. > >The empennage and wings are basically done. With 2 kids in college dollars > >are short. This has me looking at very long term to complete the RV. I > >probably should have gone with the Piet years ago...and maybe would have > >been flying by now. I need something to get me off center to start a Piet. > >If anyone knows of a un-started or barely started Piet, that might be the > >motivation I need to get going. > >Thanks to all ! > >Jack > > Jack, > I have the kit of spruce and the plans for a Piet. I have built half a > dozen ribs. The rest of the wood is still in the shipping tubes. Where > are you located? > > For Sale: > Wood kit for Long Fuselage Pietenpol. Purchased in March of 1999 from > Western Aircraft Supply. I have built 6 ribs since then. All other wood > is still in the shipping tubes. This is all of the spruce to build a > Pietenpol Aircamper. I will include the already built ribs and a rib jig. > Full set of plans purchased from the Pietenpol family. Includes 3 piece > wing and Corvair sheets. > Reprint package of BPA newsletters from July 83 - 2nd Quarter 99. This is > the set that Mike Bill put together a few years back. > Wood is located in Retsof, NY which is about 5 miles from Geneseo (D52). I > will not ship it and will not sell the plans or newletters seperately > unless the wood is already gone. I will deliver within about 100 miles of > Geneseo (US only). > $1600 for all. If you think it is too much let me know what you think it > is worth. > > Dave > N36078 '41 BC-12-65 > >


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    Time: 06:06:28 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: To build or not to build
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com> Chris, Thanks for the offer. If I get a question from someone along that path I will keep you in mind as an option. Retsof is about 30 miles south of Rochester, NY or 5 miles from Geneseo (D52). I have had an inquiry from a person in Utah. The problem with shipping is that one of the tubes is just over 14' long. That is why Western Aircraft shipped them by air freight. I have to find the original bill to get an idea of what it would cost to air freight the tubes anywhere. Dave At 06:42 PM 8/19/03 -0500, Christian Bobka wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> > >Dave, > >I don't know where you live but I am driving an empty car back from CT to >Minneapolis sometime in October/early November. I could get this stuff from >Retsof west for you. >


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    Time: 08:44:20 PM PST US
    From: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
    Subject: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit? Tom B.




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