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1. 03:56 AM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (w b evans)
2. 04:17 AM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Gene Rambo)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Re: Mode C (Alex Sloan)
4. 04:42 AM - Axle size, (Alex Sloan)
5. 05:04 AM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (dpilot)
6. 05:20 AM - Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Michael D Cuy)
7. 05:45 AM - Re: Wood Prop & Rain (John Dilatush)
8. 05:50 AM - spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (Michael D Cuy)
9. 06:01 AM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (Jim Markle)
10. 06:29 AM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (John Ford)
11. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Mode C (Barry Davis)
12. 06:53 AM - Re: Axle size, (Greg Cardinal)
13. 07:02 AM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (rambog@erols.com)
14. 07:29 AM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (Jim Sury)
15. 09:03 AM - N41CC For Sale (Isablcorky@aol.com)
16. 09:10 AM - Welding up the control horns (rhartwig11@juno.com)
17. 12:03 PM - Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis (Michael D Cuy)
18. 01:30 PM - Re: Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis (John Ford)
19. 01:50 PM - Re: Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis (Greg Cardinal)
20. 01:52 PM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Sam Marinucci)
21. 03:00 PM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Gary Gower)
22. 03:06 PM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Gary Gower)
23. 03:32 PM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (Malcolm Morrison)
24. 04:18 PM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (John McNarry)
25. 05:07 PM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (Graham Hansen)
26. 06:06 PM - Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? (javier cruz)
27. 06:09 PM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (david kowell)
28. 07:09 PM - C-90 or O-200 (Craig Lawler)
29. 07:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Richard Schreiber)
30. 07:37 PM - Re: C-90 or O-200 (Cy Galley)
31. 07:41 PM - Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 (Richard Schreiber)
32. 09:11 PM - Re: C-90 or O-200 (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
33. 09:44 PM - Re: Wood Prop & Rain (Rcaprd@aol.com)
34. 09:58 PM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Tom,
I'm in Northern NJ. Newton Airport (on the charts) Finished last fall,
and now flying. It's at the field if you want to swing wide.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
>
> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying
a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
How about Culpeper, Virginia? I'll be there all day Saturday. Piet is in
the hangar.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
>
> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying
a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Barry,
I talked with Joe Norris, he works for EAA and is a newly appointed DAR, and
he said transponders are not required as long as air space is not penetrated
where one is required. You might give him a call or I can forward you the
E-mail I got.
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
>
> DJ
> Thanks for your info, we plan to recheck with our FISDO before we add the
> generators. We are using information given to us from an examiner about a
> year and a half ago.
> Barry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > there's also the "other" way to get around it....
> >
> > Run battery and power your comm radio with it but keep the battery
charged
> via a wind driven generator.... The FAR states that an airplane with an
> engine driven electrical system needs a Mode C Xponder.... wind driven is
> exempt. I have even talked with a couple DAR's on this recently and
they
> agree that it is perfectly legal.
> >
> > This is how I plan on doing my Corvair powered GN-1 which will be based
> within Phoenix 30nm class B
> >
> > DJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barry Davis
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> >
> >
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis"
<bed@mindspring.com>
> >
> > I live inside the Mode C ring at Atlanta. We fly non radio aircraft
all
> the
> > time with no problems. If the aircraft is manufactured with no
> electrical
> > system, then Mode C is not required. We have (with special permission)
> flown
> > the L-2 Taylorcraft into Hartsfield and landed. Several of no-radio
> craft
> > flew in, but had to follow a 150 with a radio. One of those darn Cub
> drivers
> > did a loop on final, but thats another story.
> > Oops, back to the subject. Our FISDO has helped us with the rules on
our
> > Piets. If the engine needs a battery and generator to run, it is still
> > considered a non-electrical aircraft and no Mode-C required. Example:
> > Corvair with a starter, battery, alternator, battery ignition system,
> not
> > magneto. But the first time you run a little tiny wire over to the
> handheld
> > radio or GPS, you had better also run the wire to a transponder,
because
> > then it is required.
> > Check with your local FAA, because they can "translate" the rules in
> many
> > different ways.
> > Barry Davis
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dean Dayton" <deandayton@hotmail.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dean Dayton"
> > <deandayton@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Their used to be a flying club at Palo Alto (maybe still is) that
flew
> a
> > no
> > > electric Cub with a handheld radio. It was a lot of fun to fly, but
it
> > > certainly did limit where you could go in that area.
> > >
> > > Dean Dayton
> > > >
> > > >Time: 09:21:17 AM PST US
> > > >From: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: introduction and -- where's the cargo
> go?
> > > >
> > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours
> <piet-j@moriarti.org>
> > > >
> > > >Christian Bobka wrote:
> > > > > Why the mode C?
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, the two nearby airports (San Carlos and Palo Alto)
are
> > > >both within San Francisco International's mode C veil. I'm not too
> > > >worried about installing mode C, though one of the things I'm
> pondering
> > > >as I decide whether or not to build a Piet is that I'd be flying it
> out
> > > >of some crowded, tower controlled airports with concrete runways
and
> > > >fairly complex airspace -- not exactly a Piet's native environment.
> So,
> > > >it'd probably need to pick up some extra equipment, which starts to
> > > >detract from its simplicity. On the other hand, I really like the
> fact
> > > >that it has a nice, slow cruise speed, which would give me plenty
of
> > > >time to figure out which way I need to go next so I don't fly
through
> > > >the wrong airspace on my way out to the wide open places.
> > > >
> > > >- Jeff C.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Question to all straight axle Piet builders.
What size and what wall thickness are you using?
Thanks
Alex Sloan
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dpilot <dpilot@yahoo.com>
Culpepper, huh,
Do you know Andrew King?
Been flying around with him this summer.
Hes got a Fleet.
Ask him about the "Hayfield" fly-in.
JimV.
Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo"
How about Culpeper, Virginia? I'll be there all day Saturday. Piet is in
the hangar.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brants"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants"
>
> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying
a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Guys--- Long time Piet supporter, Virgil Phillips has asked that we bring
as many flying Piets to the Mideastern Regional Fly-In (MERFI) at Marion,
Ohio this weekend. The biggest day is Saturday. If everything works out
we could have as many as five of us there. Come if you can ! If all of
us make it we'll have Larry W. Jim K. Frank P. Wilbur G. and me. For more
info see sites below.
Mike C.
22-24, Fri-Sun. EAA Mid-Eastern Fly-In, Marion Municipal Airport (MNN),
Marion, OH. Call 440-352-1781.
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/030522_merfi.html
http://www.marionairport.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Prop & Rain |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood Prop & Rain
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chuck,
I recently had a similar experience, not with rain but a "rough running"
engine when going through a mountain pass. You have expressed the true
feelings of the pilot when in such a situation wonderfully.
I am the newsletter editor of our chapter and would like with your
permission to reprint your e-mail in our newsletter
May I do this?
John
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> OK, here is another flying story, during my Big Adventure:
> On the second leg of my return trip from Oshkosh, Sat. 8/2, enroute
from
> Iowa Co. Wisconsin (MRJ) to Mount Pleasant, Iowa (MPZ)...what turned out
to be
> one of the longer legs of my trip - 3 1/2 hours in the seat !! I was
faced
> with a beautiful panoramic view of the Mighty Mississippi River about 5
> stretching to 10 miles or more, out in front of me. Words simply cannot
portray
> this type of scenery. I was in 'The Zone', with thoughts of how our
> civilization has progressed, and altered the scenery from how it must have
looked before
> humans were on earth. Holding the stick between my thumb and fingers, it
was
> a little bit bumpy, but my reflexes became used to letting 'er just ride
it
> out, instead of correcting for every bump. The earth was slowly slipping
about
> 1000 feet below my trusty wings, when all of a sudden...BAM !! Something
> smacked me right on the forehead !! I thought a bolt or something fell
off the
> engine, when I noticed the drops of water crawling up my windscreen. My
> thoughts instantly went to how rain can 'sandblast' a wood prop into a
useless piece
> of frayed wood. As I instantly rolled into a steep right bank & haul back
on
> the stick, my being was searching for any slight vibration, with thoughts
of
> the prop eroding into an out of balance block of hard wood, then shaking
the
> engine loose from the airframe, then becoming WAY tail heavy, I would spin
in,
> and that would be that. I was ready to shut 'er down, if any serious
vibration
> would be felt. After completing a 180 turn, it lasted what seemed like an
> eternity, but actually maybe another 30 seconds. Drops were still on the
> windscreen, but they just stayed there...no more crawlers. I was out of
the rain.
> Decision time. Go back to Iowa Co. Airport, or see if I can pick my way
> through. Raising each wing tip, I could see what I was in. Towering
cumulus to
> the South, where I could see the showers under a portion of them, but
directly
> west looked like a wide path, judging by how the sun was shining on the
earth.
> I picked up a westerly heading for the 10 mile wide path cut in the
clouds.
> Approaching the Mighty Miss again, I always climb an extra 1000 feet, just
in
> case the engine conks out. Engines always seem to have a way of
sputtering
> when crossing a large body of water, or a forest. On this occasion, she
never
> skipped a beat !! After crossing the Miss, I just had to fly along the
West
> shore for a little while, just to take it all in. What a magnificent
river !!
> Way off course now, I had to locate my position with the chart I had
strapped
> on my lap board. This wasn't too difficult, because there are numerous
> landmarks to refer to, and the ol' Piet just isn't fast enough to get
lost...well,
> almost...but that's another story. The rest of this leg consisted of
picking
> my way through the high clouds, enjoying every moment, and maintaining my
> position with my finger on the chart.
>
> Chuck G.
> NX770CG
> logged 29.3 hours during my Big Adventure !!
>
>
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| Subject: | spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
do not archive
Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a local
guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I really
fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
!!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat, a
master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic brakes.....a
turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice and
goes pretty fast !)
Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Ok fellow, now just sit down and take a deep breath.
It's ok....you'll be alright.....just rest for a few minutes and this will
all pass....it will be ok.....just take it easy before this thing gets out
of hand.......
Now repeat after me......"I'm ok. I don't need all that STUFF to have fun
flying. I like who I am and dog gonnit people like me. I'm alright and
this is just a temporary moment of confusion. I'll be ok."
There now.
Get some rest......
jm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoiled by a plane built in 1945
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> do not archive
>
> Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a local
> guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I really
> fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
> !!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat, a
> master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic brakes.....a
> turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice and
> goes pretty fast !)
>
> Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
At least it doesn't have running water, does it?
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> jim_markle@mindspring.com Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:04:44 AM
>>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Ok fellow, now just sit down and take a deep breath.
It's ok....you'll be alright.....just rest for a few minutes and this
will
all pass....it will be ok.....just take it easy before this thing gets
out
of hand.......
Now repeat after me......"I'm ok. I don't need all that STUFF to have
fun
flying. I like who I am and dog gonnit people like me. I'm alright
and
this is just a temporary moment of confusion. I'll be ok."
There now.
Get some rest......
jm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoiled by a plane built in 1945
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> do not archive
>
> Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a
local
> guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I
really
> fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
> !!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat,
a
> master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic
brakes.....a
> turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice
and
> goes pretty fast !)
>
> Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Carrollton airport is about 400 feet outside the 30 mile mode C ring, but
all the grass strips (including mine) is just inside the ring. Probably will
start out without electrical, but am putting wires out the wing before
covering, just in case I change my mind later.
bed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
>
> Barry,
> I talked with Joe Norris, he works for EAA and is a newly appointed DAR,
and
> he said transponders are not required as long as air space is not
penetrated
> where one is required. You might give him a call or I can forward you the
> E-mail I got.
> Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
> >
> > DJ
> > Thanks for your info, we plan to recheck with our FISDO before we add
the
> > generators. We are using information given to us from an examiner about
a
> > year and a half ago.
> > Barry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
<aircamper@imagedv.com>
> > >
> > > there's also the "other" way to get around it....
> > >
> > > Run battery and power your comm radio with it but keep the battery
> charged
> > via a wind driven generator.... The FAR states that an airplane with an
> > engine driven electrical system needs a Mode C Xponder.... wind driven
is
> > exempt. I have even talked with a couple DAR's on this recently and
> they
> > agree that it is perfectly legal.
> > >
> > > This is how I plan on doing my Corvair powered GN-1 which will be
based
> > within Phoenix 30nm class B
> > >
> > > DJ
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Barry Davis
> > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis"
> <bed@mindspring.com>
> > >
> > > I live inside the Mode C ring at Atlanta. We fly non radio aircraft
> all
> > the
> > > time with no problems. If the aircraft is manufactured with no
> > electrical
> > > system, then Mode C is not required. We have (with special
permission)
> > flown
> > > the L-2 Taylorcraft into Hartsfield and landed. Several of no-radio
> > craft
> > > flew in, but had to follow a 150 with a radio. One of those darn Cub
> > drivers
> > > did a loop on final, but thats another story.
> > > Oops, back to the subject. Our FISDO has helped us with the rules on
> our
> > > Piets. If the engine needs a battery and generator to run, it is
still
> > > considered a non-electrical aircraft and no Mode-C required.
Example:
> > > Corvair with a starter, battery, alternator, battery ignition
system,
> > not
> > > magneto. But the first time you run a little tiny wire over to the
> > handheld
> > > radio or GPS, you had better also run the wire to a transponder,
> because
> > > then it is required.
> > > Check with your local FAA, because they can "translate" the rules in
> > many
> > > different ways.
> > > Barry Davis
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dean Dayton" <deandayton@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mode C
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dean Dayton"
> > > <deandayton@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Their used to be a flying club at Palo Alto (maybe still is) that
> flew
> > a
> > > no
> > > > electric Cub with a handheld radio. It was a lot of fun to fly,
but
> it
> > > > certainly did limit where you could go in that area.
> > > >
> > > > Dean Dayton
> > > > >
> > > > >Time: 09:21:17 AM PST US
> > > > >From: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: introduction and -- where's the
cargo
> > go?
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours
> > <piet-j@moriarti.org>
> > > > >
> > > > >Christian Bobka wrote:
> > > > > > Why the mode C?
> > > > >
> > > > >Unfortunately, the two nearby airports (San Carlos and Palo Alto)
> are
> > > > >both within San Francisco International's mode C veil. I'm not
too
> > > > >worried about installing mode C, though one of the things I'm
> > pondering
> > > > >as I decide whether or not to build a Piet is that I'd be flying
it
> > out
> > > > >of some crowded, tower controlled airports with concrete runways
> and
> > > > >fairly complex airspace -- not exactly a Piet's native
environment.
> > So,
> > > > >it'd probably need to pick up some extra equipment, which starts
to
> > > > >detract from its simplicity. On the other hand, I really like the
> > fact
> > > > >that it has a nice, slow cruise speed, which would give me plenty
> of
> > > > >time to figure out which way I need to go next so I don't fly
> through
> > > > >the wrong airspace on my way out to the wide open places.
> > > > >
> > > > >- Jeff C.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@startribune.com>
The straight axle is 1 1/2" x .120 tubing.
This is the size Dale and I used on ours. The weight of the landing
gear is 57 pounds. This includes the axle, spreader bars, gear legs, 19
X 3.50 tires and aluminum rims, bungee cords and bracing cables.
No brakes were installed.
Greg Cardinal in Minneapolis
>>> alexms1@bellsouth.net 08/20/03 06:45AM >>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan"
<alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Question to all straight axle Piet builders.
What size and what wall thickness are you using?
Thanks
Alex Sloan
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com" <rambog@erols.com>
Know him well, know about the hayfield, just have not been able to make it.
Andrew finished the Ryan in my hangar. Do I know you?
Gene
Original Message:
-----------------
From: dpilot dpilot@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dpilot <dpilot@yahoo.com>
Culpepper, huh,
Do you know Andrew King?
Been flying around with him this summer.
Hes got a Fleet.
Ask him about the "Hayfield" fly-in.
JimV.
Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo"
How about Culpeper, Virginia? I'll be there all day Saturday. Piet is in
the hangar.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brants"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants"
>
> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying
a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Sury" <jimsury@fbtc.net>
Mike
That PA-12 may be nice but it isn't yours and it is a factory built plane.
Tell me did you feel the wind blowing your hair when you flew it. No. Did
you get hit by any bugs. No. Be happy with your Pietenpol. It flys and I'll
bet doesn't burn as much fuel. You and your Pietenpol get off the ground,
view the world from a lofty perch and all by your hands. Be proud. jas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoiled by a plane built in 1945
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> do not archive
>
> Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a local
> guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I really
> fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
> !!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat, a
> master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic brakes.....a
> turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice and
> goes pretty fast !)
>
> Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
>
> do not archive
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
Pieters,
In as much as: Those beauros are still procrasting the Sport Pilot issue and
likely not to rule within a year at the earliest.
In as much as: I'm an impatient old fox who doesn't want to be out hangar
rent and insurance for that time by only looking at the plane
And in as much as Piet NX311CC is well over 1/3 completed
Isabelle has decided it best to let 41CC make someone else very happy for
$14.5K
If interested, contact me direct for pics or call 318 868 3385 for further
information
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| Subject: | Welding up the control horns |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com
Another small step completed today--- edge welding the control
horns. I found this to be some of the toughest gas welding that I have
done (I just couldn't see spending $2000 for a TIG outfit.) I have a
Smith torch and started out using my smallest tip--a No.203 (#3)
tip....way too much heat...aargh....rats!! I then bought a No. 201 (#1)
tip....still too much heat. The No. 2000 (#00) tip that I purchased on
the next trip did the job, but the going was a little slow. A No. 200
(#0) probably would have been just right. (Sounds like the story of the
three bears.)
Now it's on to the landing gear. I will be building a Cup type gear
but with die springs. I would appreciate any tips on gas welding those
thin gear legs to the .125 axles. This would probably be another great
place to have a TIG outfit......maybe I'll.....nah! That 2 grand will
buy most of my Corvair parts!
Dick Hartwig
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| Subject: | Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Another neat thing at Brodhead is that I got to meet Greg and Dale and
oogle over their Pietenpol construction photographs. Cane seats, burled
wood instument panel...whew. That is going to be one good looking
plane. Will you guys possibly be flying for next year's 75th Anniversary
of the Pietenpol design ? Would be great.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
Good grief those are beautiful photos! It was nice to meet Dale at
Brodhead as well. Actually it was great to meet lots of you folks,
though I wasn't wearing a name tag and mostly lurked (I was wearing the
black Red Hat Linux hat and taking pictures of everything). Maybe the
involved parties would be willing to post the photos for everybody's
inspiration. Lovely, lovely work (and lots of it).
john
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:02:26 PM
>>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Another neat thing at Brodhead is that I got to meet Greg and Dale and
oogle over their Pietenpol construction photographs. Cane seats,
burled
wood instument panel...whew. That is going to be one good looking
plane. Will you guys possibly be flying for next year's 75th
Anniversary
of the Pietenpol design ? Would be great.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Greg Cardinal & Dale's Piet in Minneapolis |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@startribune.com>
We moved the wing panels and tail feathers to Stanton airfield for
painting about a month ago.
Fuselage was trailered to the airfield last weekend.
We aren't going to rush the completion but Brodhead 2004 is a very real
possibility.
Greg (itchin' to strafe a train) Cardinal in Minneapolis
>>> Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov 08/20/03 02:02PM >>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Another neat thing at Brodhead is that I got to meet Greg and Dale and
oogle over their Pietenpol construction photographs. Cane seats,
burled
wood instument panel...whew. That is going to be one good looking
plane. Will you guys possibly be flying for next year's 75th
Anniversary
of the Pietenpol design ? Would be great.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sam Marinucci" <srmjem@ezol.com>
Hi Tom,
I'm located in Dover, Delaware so if you want to you're more than
welcome to see my Piet in progress. At this stage I have all the major
components completed and now need to install the engine(Cont A-65), hook up
the instruments, and cover the wings, fuselage, and tail surfaces using the
ceconite with dope method. If you want to "crew rest" before continuing on,
you are more than welcome to spend the night with us.
Sam Marinucci
NX115SM (reserved number)
-----Original Message-----
From: Brants <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
>
>I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying a
trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
>Tom B.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
That is a great way to flight plan a trip... imagine a flight all the
way from Mexico to OSH 2004 (or 05, 06...) starting with Javier Cruz
Piet and some other pilots (me included of course), then visiting,
camping and joining the caravan other pilots along the route north...
This lists are great.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Dreaming and making airplane noises :-)
Do not archive.
--- Sam Marinucci <srmjem@ezol.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sam Marinucci"
> <srmjem@ezol.com>
>
> Hi Tom,
> I'm located in Dover, Delaware so if you want to you're more
> than
> welcome to see my Piet in progress. At this stage I have all the
> major
> components completed and now need to install the engine(Cont A-65),
> hook up
> the instruments, and cover the wings, fuselage, and tail surfaces
> using the
> ceconite with dope method. If you want to "crew rest" before
> continuing on,
> you are more than welcome to spend the night with us.
> Sam Marinucci
> NX115SM (reserved number)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brants <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:45 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
>
>
> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants"
> <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
> >
> >I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week,
> flying a
> trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA,
> and
> Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
> >
> >Tom B.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Ooops... Forgot to mention Broadhead, sorry, was flying to some bad
weather :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
--- Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower
> <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> That is a great way to flight plan a trip... imagine a flight all
> the
> way from Mexico to OSH 2004 (or 05, 06...) starting with Javier Cruz
> Piet and some other pilots (me included of course), then visiting,
> camping and joining the caravan other pilots along the route north...
>
> This lists are great.
>
> Saludos
>
> Gary Gower
> Dreaming and making airplane noises :-)
> Do not archive.
>
> --- Sam Marinucci <srmjem@ezol.com> wrote:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sam Marinucci"
> > <srmjem@ezol.com>
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> > I'm located in Dover, Delaware so if you want to you're more
> > than
> > welcome to see my Piet in progress. At this stage I have all the
> > major
> > components completed and now need to install the engine(Cont A-65),
> > hook up
> > the instruments, and cover the wings, fuselage, and tail surfaces
> > using the
> > ceconite with dope method. If you want to "crew rest" before
> > continuing on,
> > you are more than welcome to spend the night with us.
> > Sam Marinucci
> > NX115SM (reserved number)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brants <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:45 PM
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> >
> >
> > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants"
> > <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
> > >
> > >I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week,
> > flying a
> > trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset
> PA,
> > and
> > Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
> > >
> > >Tom B.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Malcolm Morrison" <morrisons5@adelphia.net>
Tom
I'm in Howard, PA. It's between State College and Lock Haven. My Piets' in
my garage, under construction, tail on fuselage, gear on, Corvair on the
mount. Unfortunately I will not be home this weekend. I'm heading for
Caesars Creek, Ohio for a regional soaring competition. If you are ever in
the area again give me a yell and stop by. That goes for the rest of you
guys too.
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: piet builders - IN, PA, VA??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brants" <tmbrant@usfamily.net>
>
> I'm leaving for a trip to Virginia Beach on Thursday of this week, flying
a trusty old 172. I plan to be stopping in Knox Indiana, Somerset PA, and
Suffolk VA. Any pieters near by that wouldn't mind a visit?
>
> Tom B.
>
>
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| Subject: | spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John McNarry" <jmcnarry@escape.ca>
Mike: I have a good friend who flies a PA12. I love that aircraft. It is
a pretty good winter airplane as it can get cold up here. Flies great
has the little wheel on the right end all that stuff. Maybe a prairie
guy needs two airplanes. A Piet for those beautiful evenings and early
mornings and something like the 12 for all those other days.
John, In too hot Manitoba.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoiled by a plane built in 1945
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
do not archive
Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a
local
guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I really
fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
!!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat, a
master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic brakes.....a
turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice and
goes pretty fast !)
Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Mike,
Back in 1951 I flew a PA 12 Super Cruiser and, like you, I fell in love with
it. I was a very low time pilot, but found it a sweet, comfortable, docile
air-
plane that was extremely easy to fly. I have fond memories of the PA 12.
I wish I could afford one today (sob!), but they are priced right out of
sight.
I still have just about the best pure sportplane: the Pietenpol. So I guess
I'm
not that "hard done by" after all!
Graham (in hot and dry Alberta, Canada) DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: piet builders - IN, PA, VA?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: javier cruz <javcr@yahoo.com>
Hi friends
Thanks Gary, maybe the next year my first trip will be
to Chapala...and then to the north, it sounds very
fine
> Saludos
Javier Cruz
> Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "david kowell" <dkowell@cstone.net>
u might just b in luck call airport in south boston va i know of one that
might go 4 12k or less
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Hansen" <grhans@cable-lynx.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spoiled by a plane built in 1945
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham Hansen"
<grhans@cable-lynx.net>
>
> Mike,
>
> Back in 1951 I flew a PA 12 Super Cruiser and, like you, I fell in love
with
> it. I was a very low time pilot, but found it a sweet, comfortable, docile
> air-
> plane that was extremely easy to fly. I have fond memories of the PA 12.
>
> I wish I could afford one today (sob!), but they are priced right out of
> sight.
>
> I still have just about the best pure sportplane: the Pietenpol. So I
guess
> I'm
> not that "hard done by" after all!
>
> Graham (in hot and dry Alberta, Canada) DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Craig Lawler <clawler@ptd.net>
I have a C-65 Piet with about 400 hours. We are flying off a 1,200ft
strip and the pucker factor with two people in the plane is a little
much. Do any of you have any experience with the more powerful engines
on the Piet. What prop is best on a C-90 or O-200? Is the performance
improvement worth the change? Will my current engine mount work? I think
the cases are the same? I appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Craig Lawler
899CL
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Schreiber <schreib@netnitco.net>
Guys:
I am a long way from having my Piet done, but my wife and I will be
flying our Tripacer to Marion for the flyin. My Daughter lives in Muncie
just SE of Marion, so we plan on going to Muncie, picking her up and
then flying back to Marion. I saw in the MERFI flyers that Pietenpol's
were going to be featured so I new I had to go.
Rick Schreiber
Valparaiso, IN
Michael D Cuy wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>Guys--- Long time Piet supporter, Virgil Phillips has asked that we bring
>as many flying Piets to the Mideastern Regional Fly-In (MERFI) at Marion,
>Ohio this weekend. The biggest day is Saturday. If everything works out
>we could have as many as five of us there. Come if you can ! If all of
>us make it we'll have Larry W. Jim K. Frank P. Wilbur G. and me. For more
>info see sites below.
>
>Mike C.
>
>
>22-24, Fri-Sun. EAA Mid-Eastern Fly-In, Marion Municipal Airport (MNN),
>Marion, OH. Call 440-352-1781.
>
>http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/030522_merfi.html
>
>http://www.marionairport.com/
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C-90 or O-200 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
The C-85 will use the same mount. One thing you can do is re-configure the
timing and flatten the prop pitch for more RPM. A-65 red-lines at 2300 for
65HP while just running the engine faster at 2600 you get 75HP. The big end
of the rods should be drilled for an oil squirt hole but most have been
already for improved longevity. Since you are running experimental, one can
bore the A-65 case for C series cylinders. Might want to use one of the
larger oil tanks. They all fit; even the 0-200. If you use the C-85, you
can effectively stroke the engine by using an O-200 crank. Talk to an old
time mechanic and check out your options.
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
Reasonable document reprints
1-518-731-6800
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Lawler" <clawler@ptd.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: C-90 or O-200
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Craig Lawler <clawler@ptd.net>
>
> I have a C-65 Piet with about 400 hours. We are flying off a 1,200ft
> strip and the pucker factor with two people in the plane is a little
> much. Do any of you have any experience with the more powerful engines
> on the Piet. What prop is best on a C-90 or O-200? Is the performance
> improvement worth the change? Will my current engine mount work? I think
> the cases are the same? I appreciate any help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig Lawler
> 899CL
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spoiled by a plane built in 1945 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Schreiber <schreib@netnitco.net>
Michael:
I understand how you feel. I have always loved rag wing pipers, that is
why I bought 36D (a little bigger and faster 1956 PA22) about 14 years
ago. I got it cheap, flew it for a couple of years and then did a
complete restoration. I think I mentioned to you at Brodhead that with
what I have in the plane, its current worth and the rate that it is
appreciating, that it probably costs me about $5 or $6 dollars per hour
to operate. I love the plane and have no desire to ever own any other
certified A/C. It has taken me and the family on a number of trips
across the US in comfort and speed, but..........it does have limitations.
It has an enclosed cabin.....no wind in the face.
I didn't build the whole thing myself.
It has a wheel in the wrong place.
I can't work on the engine
If I get " low and slow" I start to feel real uncomfortable.
That's why I am building the Pietenpol. There is no reason we can't have
two planes. Now if I can only figure how I am going to get my Piet in my
hanger with the Tripacer????
I only subscribe to two aviation lists... The Short Wing Piper site and
the Pietenpol list. The people, wealth of information, friendship and
genuine love of the planes comes through on both sites. The only
difference is the cast of characters.
Rick Schreiber
Michael D Cuy wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>do not archive
>
>Group-- Realized that I was four days out of currency and got with a local
>guy to do my flight review. We flew his 0-235 108 HP PA-12 and I really
>fell for that airplane ! I mean it had all the bells and whistles
>!!!! It had an ENCLOSED CABIN.........a STARTER......cabin heat, a
>master switch, a radio/gps.......nav lights.....hydraulic brakes.....a
>turn and bank indicator.......WOW !!! (plus it flies pretty nice and
>goes pretty fast !)
>
>Mike C. spoiled by a plane built in 1945
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C-90 or O-200 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Craig,
What prop are you using? How fast are you reving the engine at takoff? You
might be amazed how much it helps to have a "climb" prop (one with a flatter
pitch) that allows the engine to rev up a little higher. The Sensenich
websight (
http://www.sensenichprop.com/sen_html/aircraft_cet/aircraft/experimental.html) shows their model W72CK-40 is optimum for climb pn an A65 powered
Pietenpol. This means the pitch is flattened out (40 degrees) to be optimum for
the
2350 max certified rpm of the A65. My prop is a 72CK-44 but I have not flown
it yet on the Piet. I don't expect awesome climb performance. It is a "cruise
prop".
If you want to bore the case for the larger bore cylinders/pistons, I can
assist you with FAA field approval to maintain your engine as a "certified
engine. Or you can Just DO IT without having the approval and the engine can be
considered an experimental. I have the drawing, the 337, and can provide a DER
approval paperwork. Just about any small machine shop can do the machine work.
It is a simple change and makes good sense, considering the cost for a
rebuilt studded cylinder assembly for the O-200 is WAY less than for an A65. I
am
planning to do this to my engine whenever it is time to overhaul. I helped a
friend do this on his Luscombe. I estimate it will make 75 brake horsepower
at 2350 rpm at sea level or >80 bhp at 2600 RPM. You might tweak 95 to 100 bhp
out of it if you also change to the longer stroke crankshaft. These
configurations are certifiable by similarity to other TCM configurations, verified
through illustrated parts catalog verification. You wind up with a configuration
that is essentially the same as a C-85.
Terry Bowden
Consultant DER, Powerplant Installation and Engines
ph (254) 715-4773
fax (254) 853-3805
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Prop & Rain |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/20/03 7:46:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
dilatush@amigo.net writes:
<< I am the newsletter editor of our chapter and would like with your
permission to reprint your e-mail in our newsletter
May I do this? >>
John,
Yes, you sure can print it !! I would be honored to have it printed in your
newsletter. One thing I forgot to mention about the prop. Upon landing, I
closely inspected the prop for any sign of damage. The only thing I found was
that the Ace Spar Varnish on just the very leading edge had a matt finish to
it...that's all !! Hey...maybe I have a writing career ahead.
from trees & rags,
to stick & rudder !!
Pietenpols Forever !!
Chuck Gantzer
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/20/03 7:21:02 AM Central Daylight Time,
Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
<< Long time Piet supporter, Virgil Phillips has asked that we bring
as many flying Piets to the Mideastern Regional Fly-In (MERFI) at Marion,
Ohio this weekend. >>
Mike,
Let's see...three days to get there, two days full of Pietenpol
entertainment, three days to get back. I sure wish I had more time off at work
!! Sounds
like a great time ! However, I will be flying up to Blakesburg, Iowa, next
weekend. And I'm REALLY looking forward to next summer, when WE ALL must fly
to the 75th Aniversery of our beloved deisign, and blacken the skies of
Brodhead '04 with Pietenopls !!!!!!
Chuck G.
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