---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/24/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:03 AM - Re: what do you find odd in this NTSB report?? (Cinda Gadd) 2. 07:05 AM - Re: what do you find odd in this NTSB report?? (Carl Loar) 3. 07:08 AM - Re: Charts, Pilotage & Dead Reconing vs. GPS (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 4. 07:53 AM - Hardware Inventory (Ron Butcher) 5. 10:40 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/23/03 (ANNCARLEK@aol.com) 6. 10:50 AM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Isablcorky@aol.com) 7. 01:33 PM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Carbarvo@aol.com) 8. 01:42 PM - Re: Hardware Inventory (Ian Holland) 9. 03:27 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/23/03 (rhartwig11@juno.com) 10. 08:31 PM - Re: Chuck's travels (Craig Lawler) 11. 08:57 PM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Rcaprd@aol.com) 12. 09:04 PM - Re: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:23 AM PST US From: "Cinda Gadd" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report?? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Cinda Gadd" This Piet was at Brodhead 93 94 and 95. It was red fuse and cream wing, with Continental power. It had a big rooster on the side, and a large silver spinner. I found a picture of this plane with the pilot just getting in or out of the REAR pit. I think the FAA report just got it wrong, he was flying from the correct cockpit. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X11558 key=1 --- Skip Cinda Gadd --- csfog@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:16 AM PST US From: "Carl Loar" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report?? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Loar" I think it was because he was in England AR. It's that being in England with that left side, right side, front seat, back seat stuff. And what's with that food? It's very confusing there. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report?? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > Here's an NTSB accident report on a Piet. > > Fortunatley there was no fatality, but read it and see if you can find what > I did that sounded really odd..... > > http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X11558&key=1 > > > DJ Vegh > N74DV > Mesa, AZ > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > - > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:59 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Charts, Pilotage & Dead Reconing vs. GPS --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Chuck, I just read your story aloud to my father in-law. We throroughly enjoyed your tale and had a good laugh to start our day. Makes us even more anxious to get the bird in the air. We wanted to know....back at the pool. Would your "request have been "Which way to the local church?" Keep up the great stories. Terry Bowden ph (254) 715-4773 fax (254) 853-3805 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:24 AM PST US From: "Ron Butcher" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hardware Inventory --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ron Butcher" Hello all... Has anybody taken the time to put together a list of hardware (i.e. nuts and bolts, washers, turnbuckles, etc.) that one needs to assemble a proper Piet? I know that with the variations that we all like to do and with short/long fuselage versions, 3 piece vs. single piece wing that it would be a little different. Someone did do a wood listing a while back....just wonder'in if anyone had done something similar with hardware????? Ron - Turlock, Cal ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:01 AM PST US From: ANNCARLEK@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/23/03 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/03 11:56:48 PM, pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com writes: << From: "Jeff Cours" Subject: Pietenpol-List: work bench length >> I built mine 16' long, which is totally adequate for the long fuse. I paid the extra price to use two sheets of particle board, 36" wide. This width was swell: I used it for all sorts of things, and would not make another bench narrower than this Carl L @ Compton Airport ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:37 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Chuck, Don't want to intrude on your writings as Isabelle and I are thoroughly enjoying it. I told her about your conclusions about women and props and your proposed, "Cruise around America". She says, why don't you go with him while you still have a Piet? Want to talk? Corky in La raring to go ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:57 PM PST US From: Carbarvo@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com Hi Chuck.....Are you familiar with the chap from here in Alabama who flew the US perimeter in a Kolb Mark III? If not and you're interested, I'll look him up and give you his name, etc. But the folks at "New Kolb" can probably tell you about him. Carl V. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:08 PM PST US From: "Ian Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hardware Inventory --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ian Holland" Yep, my builder's log at $12,000 plus change (U.S) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/23/03 From: rhartwig11@juno.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com One more idea for a workbench/layout table: Use 10 inch TGI's (Tongue & groove I-beams), buy a 16 footer and cut in half, span the ends with plywood that is the same depth as the I-beam. I then screw short 2X4 blocks on the inside of the web--these support 2X4 cross braces which are spaced every 2 feet. You only need a 2X4 leg on each corner and don't need to brace the legs. The top is the material of your choice. This table is as flat as you can get with lumber and is (very!!!) solid. I also drill a 7/32 hole in the bottom end of each leg and screw in a 1/4 inch carriage bolt to use as a leveling jack. Two of these tables screwed together and leveled make a 1st class Piet building table......and they knock down in a few minutes and store compactly. Dick Hartwig ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:31 PM PST US From: Craig Lawler Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Chuck's travels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Craig Lawler Sometimes to unplanned stops can be the most fun. I mostly fly without, but once in a while I'll duck tape the GPS antenna to my tail cone. It makes it too easy. Craig Lawler 899CL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:04 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 8/24/03 12:51:21 PM Central Daylight Time, Isablcorky@aol.com writes: << Chuck, Don't want to intrude on your writings as Isabelle and I are thoroughly enjoying it. I told her about your conclusions about women and props and your proposed, "Cruise around America". She says, why don't you go with him while you still have a Piet? Want to talk? Corky in La raring to go >> Corky, You have a gem of a wife, there, to suggest you set out on a trek like that !! I'm thinking of at least a month, or so, for a complete lap around America. Let's meet up at Brodhead next summer, and from there, we can just go where the weather ain't !! Who knows, maybe there will be others that will join us. Chuck, in Hot, Hot Kansas ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:19 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Reunion this Weekend in Ohio --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 8/24/03 3:34:41 PM Central Daylight Time, Carbarvo@aol.com writes: << Hi Chuck.....Are you familiar with the chap from here in Alabama who flew the US perimeter in a Kolb Mark III? If not and you're interested, I'll look him up and give you his name, etc. But the folks at "New Kolb" can probably tell you about him. Carl V. >> Hey Carl, I've not heard of that one !! I would certainly like to get a hold of him, and hear about his experiences !! Chuck