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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Sunday outing (clif)
2. 04:51 AM - Model A Parts & More---Ken Perkins (Michael D Cuy)
3. 10:35 AM - Re: Pictures posted (JamesJboyer@aol.com)
4. 12:11 PM - Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. (DJ Vegh)
5. 12:18 PM - Piet ride and advice (Chad and Susan Johnson)
6. 12:41 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use (Jim Ash)
7. 12:56 PM - The Birdmen ? / was Piet ride and advice (Jim Ash)
8. 12:59 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them (Jeff Cours)
9. 01:21 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. (DJ Vegh)
10. 03:22 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. (Dick and Marge Gillespie)
11. 03:22 PM - Blakesburg (Jack Textor)
12. 03:58 PM - Re: Blakesburg (w b evans)
13. 04:56 PM - Re: Blakesburg (Kip & Beth Gardner)
14. 05:22 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. (Gary Gower)
15. 08:18 PM - Re: Three piece and one piece wings are differen?? (Dennis Engellkenjohn)
16. 08:22 PM - Re: Blakesburg (Rcaprd@aol.com)
17. 08:41 PM - Re: Blakesburg (Al Latham)
18. 08:59 PM - Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. (Al Latham)
19. 08:59 PM - The Birdmen (Chad and Susan Johnson)
20. 09:01 PM - Re: Piet ride and advice (Rcaprd@aol.com)
21. 09:11 PM - Re: You don't have a WHAT ? (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Sunday outing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
I believe the steel only goes as far as the
bolts you see, not all the way through.
Clif
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/26/2003 1:56:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
> cdawson5854@shaw.ca writes:
>
>
> > http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=140
> **************************************************************
>
> I was just admiring the photos of Larry Prange's Piet. What a beautiful
job
> Larry! I have a question about thosae struts. Are those streamline
aluminum
> with steel tube inside for reinforcement?
>
> Terry Bowden
> ph (254) 715-4773
> fax (254) 853-3805
>
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| Subject: | Model A Parts & More---Ken Perkins |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Any of you who have seen Ken Perkin's Ford powered Piet will attest to the
fine workmanship he's put into it. I just ran across a bunch of pics on
line where he shows and offers many parts for the Ford engine plus other
things like wire wheel hubs. He give prices and all. Ken is a
no-nonsense guy who knows his Piet schtuff !
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=8
Mike C.
Please archive
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| Subject: | Re: Pictures posted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: JamesJboyer@aol.com
In a message dated 8/26/2003 10:06:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
BARNSTMR@aol.com writes:
> http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList.cfm?Menu=PhotoGallery
Hi Terry,
Nice photos and congratulations on getting the Piet. I'm not quite that far
on mine yet but almost. Went to Brodhead and seeing all the Piets there was
very helpful to my further enthusiasm to work on mine.
Good luck. Jim
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| Subject: | Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up never buying from
them again.
I have been dealing with them on a return for 2 months now.
2 months ago I ordered a set of custom made cables with rotary swaged MS forks
on the ends.
I get the cables soon after only to find they are swaged WAYout of round. it almost
looks like they used a bench vice to crimp the fork over the cable.
The AC43.12 syas the swaged fitting must be .219" in diamter after the swage ALL
THE WAY AROUND. My cables were .218 on one axis and as high as .240 on the
other.
Totally unuseable and not FAA airworthy.
The customer service people have told me that they have sold thousands of these
cables with no problem and that since they are custom they will not offer a refund.
I told the lady several times... a couple times VERY slowly.... "these
cables do not meet 43.13 and will fail long before the fork will." she still
did not get it.
I then told here... "if I use these, eventually my wings will probably rip off
and I will die" . her comback was still " we sell alot of these and nobody complains"
So then I say, "maybe all those other cables are good and I got a bad set. Just
send me a good set." She says no joy. sales are final I am stuck with them.
What the hell?? I've spent about $3,500 with them and now they want to lose me
over $70?
DJ
www.imagedv.com
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| Subject: | Piet ride and advice |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chad and Susan Johnson" <chadnsue@earthlink.net>
To Chuck and Doug in Benton,
Would it be possible to meet up with one or the other of you or both
sometime between Sept 2 and 7th. I have 5 days off and would love to buy a
tank of gas and some coffee in exchange for a piet ride and some advice on
starting my piet project. I live an hour North of Wichita. Please give me a
call or write back. I just watched a documentary on The "Colditz Castle"
escapes. They built a glider as per the prisoners plans and it flew great.
I figure if those POWs can design and build an actual airworthy airplane
from broken up foot lockers and bed rails, bed sheets and boiled millet for
dope, all using hand made tools,, well its time I get started.
With all valuable information and guidance everyone on this list provides,
I have no excuses. Thanks and let me know. (480) 480-9395
Chad Johnson, (lurking for years)
McPherson, Kansas
--- Susan Johnson
--- chadnsue@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use |
them again.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
I hope Aircraft Spruce is saving a lot of money on customer service people,
otherwise they're paying them way too much for the skills they exhibit.
I ordered a nickle and dime part from them years back, and asked them to
throw in a current catalog, also. When the order came, there were a couple
big, heavy boxes on my doorstep. The person that entered the order screwed
up and ordered me 50 catalogs instead of one, then charged me for them. My
$30 order was somewhere in the $200+ range, for what I recall. It took a
couple calls to convince someone I didn't care to read that much and I
wasn't scamming them to get free catalogs for my friends; I didn't have
that many friends. Instead of paying for the return shipping, they told me
just to keep them and hand them out to friends, anyhow. My local EAA guys
benefit from that one.
Did you pay them with a credit card? I'd deny the charge. You're obvously
dealing with someone who 1) doesn't know and 2) doesn't care. Denying the
charge will at least wake someone up.
Jim
At 8/27/2003 12:09 PM -0700, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
>If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up never
>buying from them again.
>
>I have been dealing with them on a return for 2 months now.
>
>2 months ago I ordered a set of custom made cables with rotary swaged MS
>forks on the ends.
>
>I get the cables soon after only to find they are swaged WAYout of
>round. it almost looks like they used a bench vice to crimp the fork over
>the cable.
>
>The AC43.12 syas the swaged fitting must be .219" in diamter after the
>swage ALL THE WAY AROUND. My cables were .218 on one axis and as high as
>.240 on the other.
>
>Totally unuseable and not FAA airworthy.
>
>The customer service people have told me that they have sold thousands of
>these cables with no problem and that since they are custom they will not
>offer a refund. I told the lady several times... a couple times VERY
>slowly.... "these cables do not meet 43.13 and will fail long before the
>fork will." she still did not get it.
>
>I then told here... "if I use these, eventually my wings will probably rip
>off and I will die" . her comback was still " we sell alot of these and
>nobody complains"
>
>So then I say, "maybe all those other cables are good and I got a bad
>set. Just send me a good set." She says no joy. sales are final I am
>stuck with them.
>
>What the hell?? I've spent about $3,500 with them and now they want to
>lose me over $70?
>
>DJ
>www.imagedv.com
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| Subject: | The Birdmen ? / was Piet ride and advice |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
I remember a movie from the 70's called The Birdmen that sounds a lot like
this documentary. I loved that movie, but I thought it was just fictional
nonsense.
You're telling me it was for real? Wow.
Jim Ash
At 8/27/2003 02:17 PM -0700, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chad and Susan Johnson"
><chadnsue@earthlink.net>
>
>To Chuck and Doug in Benton,
>Would it be possible to meet up with one or the other of you or both
>sometime between Sept 2 and 7th. I have 5 days off and would love to buy a
>tank of gas and some coffee in exchange for a piet ride and some advice on
>starting my piet project. I live an hour North of Wichita. Please give me a
>call or write back. I just watched a documentary on The "Colditz Castle"
>escapes. They built a glider as per the prisoners plans and it flew great.
>I figure if those POWs can design and build an actual airworthy airplane
>from broken up foot lockers and bed rails, bed sheets and boiled millet for
>dope, all using hand made tools,, well its time I get started.
>With all valuable information and guidance everyone on this list provides,
>I have no excuses. Thanks and let me know. (480) 480-9395
>
>Chad Johnson, (lurking for years)
>McPherson, Kansas
>
>--- Susan Johnson
>--- chadnsue@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them |
again.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
DJ Vegh wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
> <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up
> never buying from them again.
It's very interesting hearing about the various vendors and supply
houses -- extremely useful information for someone like me who's just
starting out!
I can't speak about Aircraft Spruce in particular, but with most medium
to large companies you often have to get past the front-line customer
service folks to reach people that'll listen to reason. I'd suggest
going straight to the top. I found this on their web site, in the
"message from our president" section
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pres.html>
> If you wish to comment or make suggestions on our products or
> service, please contact me directly at jji@aircraftspruce.com .
A well-placed e-mail message may be a good choice at this point...
- Jeff C.
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
Thanks for finding Jim Irwins email address..... I sent an unaggressive, yet concerned
email to him
we'll see what happens
DJ Vegh
Editor - Animator - Digital Artist
Larry John Wright, Inc.
1045 E. University Dr.
Mesa, AZ 85203
480.833.8111 - Office
602.743.5768 - Mobile
"The Nation's Number One Retail Advertising Agency"
Achieving Big Time Results for Local and Regional Retailers
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Cours
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
DJ Vegh wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
> <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up
> never buying from them again.
It's very interesting hearing about the various vendors and supply
houses -- extremely useful information for someone like me who's just
starting out!
I can't speak about Aircraft Spruce in particular, but with most medium
to large companies you often have to get past the front-line customer
service folks to reach people that'll listen to reason. I'd suggest
going straight to the top. I found this on their web site, in the
"message from our president" section
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pres.html>
> If you wish to comment or make suggestions on our products or
> service, please contact me directly at jji@aircraftspruce.com .
A well-placed e-mail message may be a good choice at this point...
- Jeff C.
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick and Marge Gillespie" <margdick@peganet.com>
I think someone from AS&S monitors our list. Sometime ago I was complaining
about a freight overcharge on the list and they (AS&S) contacted me and gave
me a credit for the difference.
DickG.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them
again.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> Thanks for finding Jim Irwins email address..... I sent an unaggressive,
yet concerned email to him
>
> we'll see what happens
>
> DJ Vegh
> Editor - Animator - Digital Artist
> Larry John Wright, Inc.
> 1045 E. University Dr.
> Mesa, AZ 85203
> 480.833.8111 - Office
> 602.743.5768 - Mobile
>
> "The Nation's Number One Retail Advertising Agency"
> Achieving Big Time Results for Local and Regional Retailers
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Cours
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use
them again.
>
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
>
> DJ Vegh wrote:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
> > <aircamper@imagedv.com>
> >
> > If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up
> > never buying from them again.
>
> It's very interesting hearing about the various vendors and supply
> houses -- extremely useful information for someone like me who's just
> starting out!
>
> I can't speak about Aircraft Spruce in particular, but with most medium
> to large companies you often have to get past the front-line customer
> service folks to reach people that'll listen to reason. I'd suggest
> going straight to the top. I found this on their web site, in the
> "message from our president" section
>
> <http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pres.html>
>
> > If you wish to comment or make suggestions on our products or
> > service, please contact me directly at jji@aircraftspruce.com .
>
> A well-placed e-mail message may be a good choice at this point...
>
> - Jeff C.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
Any Pietors going to Blakesburg this weekend?
Jack Textor
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Where's that?
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Blakesburg
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Textor"
<jack@personnelincorporated.com>
>
> Any Pietors going to Blakesburg this weekend?
> Jack Textor
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 6:16 PM -0400 08/27/03, Jack Textor wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Textor"
><jack@personnelincorporated.com>
>
>Any Pietors going to Blakesburg this weekend?
>Jack Textor
Jack,
Gene Rambo is going, I think in his Travelair, but he has probably left DC
already. I got an e-mail from him this AM that indicated he was getting
ready to leave.
Kip Gardner
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Ask to get Jerry Aguilar in the phone, He is a great person, we (he
speaks spanish) have dealed with him for several years, since he was on
the counter, now he is the Marketing Director.
I finaly meet him in person at S&F two years ago and we had a great
chat and helped me with my byuing there, just like he was one of the
guys in the counter.
I am sure you will talk with the right person... (I hope).
Good luck
Saludos
Gary Gower.
--- DJ Vegh <aircamper@imagedv.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh"
> <aircamper@imagedv.com>
>
> If Aircraft Spruce does not get their act to gether I may end up
> never buying from them again.
>
> I have been dealing with them on a return for 2 months now.
>
> 2 months ago I ordered a set of custom made cables with rotary swaged
> MS forks on the ends.
>
> I get the cables soon after only to find they are swaged WAYout of
> round. it almost looks like they used a bench vice to crimp the fork
> over the cable.
>
> The AC43.12 syas the swaged fitting must be .219" in diamter after
> the swage ALL THE WAY AROUND. My cables were .218 on one axis and as
> high as .240 on the other.
>
> Totally unuseable and not FAA airworthy.
>
> The customer service people have told me that they have sold
> thousands of these cables with no problem and that since they are
> custom they will not offer a refund. I told the lady several times...
> a couple times VERY slowly.... "these cables do not meet 43.13 and
> will fail long before the fork will." she still did not get it.
>
> I then told here... "if I use these, eventually my wings will
> probably rip off and I will die" . her comback was still " we sell
> alot of these and nobody complains"
>
> So then I say, "maybe all those other cables are good and I got a bad
> set. Just send me a good set." She says no joy. sales are final I
> am stuck with them.
>
> What the hell?? I've spent about $3,500 with them and now they want
> to lose me over $70?
>
> DJ
> www.imagedv.com
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Three piece and one piece wings are differen?? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dennis Engellkenjohn" <wingding@usmo.com>
Why not call him now and ask him? his phone is 507 288-3322 Evenings CST
----- Original Message -----
From: "dpilot" <dpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are differen??
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dpilot <dpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Why not ask Vi Kappler next year at Brodhead?
> JimV.
>
> clif <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: clif
>
> How much do the attachment straps weigh?
> I don't have mine yet but I would think
> 5-8 oz? There are 16 of them. There are
> 28 assorted nuts and bolts and 2 pulleys.
> Two small straps for those pulleys and two
> extra ribs. There's possibly a little more ply
> in the center section. What else?
> We're missing the two very long bolts, front
> and rear, holding the center of each one piece
> spar together. The center pulleys and their
> mounts are extra in the wing as they were
> originaly at the strut/fuse point, not in the wing.
> Anybody got a collection of these parts to weigh?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "w b evans"
> To:
>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are
differen??
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans"
> >
> > Consider this. I built right to the plans, with very little variations.
> > Long fuselage with an A-65, and the three piece wing. also a wing tank
> and
> > a nose tank, and my empty weight was 595#. Would a one piece wing weigh
> in
> > at 565# ?
> > walt evans
> > NX140DL
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are
> differen??
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com
> > >
> > > Yes, I realize that you are talking "difference". That's what puzzles
> me.
> > > Thank you for expanding on your memo. The laminated spars are very
> > interesting
> > > and will become even more interesting as time goes on and spruce
prices
> go
> > up.
> > > Were your laminations one piece from end to end or were you able to
> splice
> > > them?...Carl V.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/27/03 5:23:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
jack@personnelincorporated.com writes:
<< Any Pietors going to Blakesburg this weekend?
Jack Textor >>
I'm planning on flying my Piet up to Blakesburg Iowa, this weekend. Leave
Friday - late afternoon, after work, overnight somewhere enroute, arrive at
Antique Field sometime Saturday morning. Problem is, there is a big front moving
in on Friday, with LOTS of rain in it. Could put a damper on the weekend.
Chuck G.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
Hi Kip,
I got off the phone with Karen a bit ago and Gene is stuck in WV for now. He
is in the TravelAir.
I hope to get there early Friday morning, but if Gene dosen't make it I may
scrub the whole thing.
Al Latham
Lathrop, MO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kip & Beth Gardner" <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Blakesburg
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner
<kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
>
> At 6:16 PM -0400 08/27/03, Jack Textor wrote:
> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Textor"
> ><jack@personnelincorporated.com>
> >
> >Any Pietors going to Blakesburg this weekend?
> >Jack Textor
>
> Jack,
>
> Gene Rambo is going, I think in his Travelair, but he has probably left DC
> already. I got an e-mail from him this AM that indicated he was getting
> ready to leave.
>
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> North Canton, OH
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce - I am about to never use them again. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Cours" <piet-j@moriarti.org>
> It's very interesting hearing about the various vendors and supply
> houses -- extremely useful information for someone like me who's just
> starting out!
> - Jeff C.
Jeff,
I've dealt with Aircraft Spruce and Wick's for years as most everybody on
this list has.
While I have never returned anything to AS, my biggest complaint is the
slowness in
getting things to the customer. I've seen Jim in the Hot Seat at Lakeland
more than once
about this problem. I recently ordered a fuselage envelope for an Aeronca
that I have in
the shop and received it within 5 working days, I was quite happy. I was
also dealing with
a lady that worked with Ron Alexander when it was Alexander Aeroplane, they
were great
people to deal with, I hated to see them eaten up buy the big guys. Stuff
out of CA seems to
take longer.
I have had nothing but fantastic service from Wick's, my wife often drops in
and picks up
my orders and has nothing but nice things to say about how she is treated.
These pickups
are usually after a week of driving a tractor trailer to Chicago every day
so she may not be
in the best of moods, they haven't banned me from buying so I guess things
are ok. We spent
10K+ on spruce with them last year in what was a very difficult order to
fill but we had it within
two weeks.
Al Latham,
Lathrop, MO.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Chad and Susan Johnson" <chadnsue@earthlink.net>
Not sure of the Movie Title, but I too saw a really neat movie many years
ago about POWs building a glider and launching it to freedom. It is indeed
based upon the true story of The Colditz Castle POW camp and they really
did build a glider. The glider was very near completion when the American
forces arrived and liberated the town and the camp. There is only one
known photograph surviving and you can see that on the web if you do a
search for Colditz Castle. The glider was broken up and used for fire
wood, it never flew. That is just one of many amazing escape stories from
that place. There is a book or two written about this stuff also. The
documentary I watched was a NOVA, PBS program. Not sure when it aired.
Chad J.
--- Susan Johnson
--- chadnsue@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Piet ride and advice |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/27/03 2:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
chadnsue@earthlink.net writes:
<< To Chuck and Doug in Benton,
Would it be possible to meet up with one or the other of you or both
sometime between Sept 2 and 7th. I have 5 days off and would love to buy a
tank of gas and some coffee in exchange for a piet ride and some advice on
starting my piet project. >>
Hi Chad !!
I remember getting a note from you in my cockpit, earlier this spring. I'm
glad to hear you want to start on the adventure of your life - build & fly your
own Pietenpol. I've got to warn you, though...it is very addictive !!
Yes, I will certainly be around between the 2nd and 7th. We can work out a
time to meet up. Doug doesn't have his Piet anymore, but he has a '46
Taylorcraft, and just recently bought a '39 Taylorcraft project. I'm sure he will
be
around too. Joe Beck's Corvair Pietenpol project is hangered right next to
me. It should be flying this year. I haven't yet had a passanger onboard. If
I don't get to go to Blakesburg this weekend, I'll be working on preparing my
plane for a passanger. I need to finish up my tailwheel, install the harness
in the front pit, install the slanted struts and remove the X cables on the
right side of the front pit, and change out the windshield, and install a
windshield for the passanger. Then I will see how she handles with progressively
increasing loads of balast in the front pit. I probably won't have all that
done by next week, but McPherson is well within the range of a day trip !! I'm
always looking for new destinations. For sure, we'll be able to 'Kick the
tires, twang the wires, and light the fire !!'
I remember seeing that documentry on the 'Coldiz Castle', a couple of
years ago. They built a hidden room, and then built it without any guards
finding out. I think only one of them was able to escape. I think they drew
straws, or something.
Chuck Gantzer
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| Subject: | Re: You don't have a WHAT ? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 8/27/03 12:57:04 AM Central Daylight Time,
ggower_99@yahoo.com writes:
<< Hope this helps, and I am sorry that I cant make it, maybe only
directly from Texas to Broadhead and Oshkosh... >>
Gary,
How 'bout Texas to Wichita to Brodhead and Oshkosh ? There are quite a few
Piet projects in Texas and Oklahoma. We could make quite an arrival in
Brodhead, with everyone from out west, and from the southwest, for the 75th
anniversery !!
Chuck G.
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