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1. 08:15 AM - tailpost width (NormDecou@aol.com)
2. 08:27 AM - Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (NormDecou@aol.com)
3. 08:59 AM - McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
4. 09:26 AM - Engine mount (Alex Sloan)
5. 10:30 AM - Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In (Jon Botsford)
6. 11:11 AM - Re: HUBS (James Dallas)
7. 12:38 PM - Re: Engine mount (Carbarvo@aol.com)
8. 12:40 PM - [ John Ford ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
9. 02:06 PM - Re: Brodhead photos (w b evans)
10. 03:15 PM - Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (Gene Rambo)
11. 03:17 PM - Re: Brodhead photos (Gene Rambo)
12. 03:54 PM - Re: Brodhead photos (John Hofmann)
13. 06:15 PM - Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In (Rcaprd@aol.com)
14. 08:01 PM - Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (NormDecou@aol.com)
15. 08:54 PM - Re: Brodhead photos (w b evans)
16. 09:25 PM - Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In (Isablcorky@aol.com)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Hi,
My pictures have failed me again. I cannot confirm the width where the
fuselage tail comes together and I would prefer not to guess. My best guess is
to
start the taper at 1/2" on each tailpost which will leave me with a finished
tailpost that is 1" thick at the tip.
Thanks again for the help.
Norm & Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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| Subject: | Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
I went back to the pietenpol site where I found a picture of the fuselage
from the back. It looks like both posts are left at their 1" dimension before
the taper starts.
Do not archive
NormDecou
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| Subject: | McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Corky, ............... Have Mr. Johnson hop in with you and y'all come down
here to McGregor TX on the 20th (next weekend).
Chuck, ..............We're counting on you too.
Terry Bowden
ph (254) 715-4773
fax (254) 853-3805
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Fellow Pietenpol builders and pilots,
I am ready to build the engine mount for my Corvair engine. I plan to use the
dimensions as given by Mr. Pietenpol for the distance to the firewall unless someone
has other thoughts they would like to share. Obviously, Wt. & Bal. is
the critical thing as well as the 1" down thrust Mr. Pietenpol shows. I am
aware of the wing placement for the final Wt. & Bal is the thing to do. I have
the extended fuselage.
On the engine I am using a front starter, alternator and I have kept the oil cooler
in it's original placement as well as the oil filter. No cooling fan.
I welcome any and all comments and hope you will share your experiences.
Alex Sloan
North Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jon Botsford" <botsford7@hot.rr.com>
YES!!!, We still are having the Fish Fry. I won't make any comment about
when it is over. It will be over when it is over! Y'all come.
Jon Botsford
EAA Chapter 59
Low & Slow Fly-In coordinator
----- Original Message -----
From: <BARNSTMR@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
Corky, ............... Have Mr. Johnson hop in with you and y'all come down
here to McGregor TX on the 20th (next weekend).
Chuck, ..............We're counting on you too.
Terry Bowden
ph (254) 715-4773
fax (254) 853-3805
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Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:40:06 -0500
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
Ken, Do you have any pictures?
Jim D
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From: Ken Hannan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
I just received the wheel hubs for my piet from Ken Perkins kenandvernaperkins@sbcglobal.net
very nice and only $150.00 dollars a pair with the bushings installed.
Ken
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| Subject: | Re: Engine mount |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com
Hey Alex.....Good going on your Piet progress...I didn't realize you were
that far along! I'm setting up my Piet for the Model-A which I already have
sitting in its' mounts. All structure is finished and the fabric is on the tail
feathers, ailerons and the bottom of the left wing. The more I talk to Mark
Langford, the more interested I get in the Corvair engine. I may change engines
after a couple of years experience with the Ford. I've ordered Wm. Wynne's
expensive little book. I am particularly interested right now in where the engine
CG
winds up with the engine outfitted just as you have it. I think Wm. Wynne's
Piet was one of the best looking Piets I've seen. If you get over in this
direction, give me a call so I can give you directions to my house...It's real
easy. Keep us posted...Carl Vought, Huntsville, AL.
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| Subject: | [ John Ford ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead photos |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
John,
Just wanted to give you some input on one of your Brodhead pics. The one
near the top of an engine on a test stand. You had called it a C2 engine,
but in fact it is some old , French, I think, engine that was like the type
flown over the english channel for the first time. The original design had
a "one journal" crankshaft (both pistons move left then both pistons move
right) This meant that the engine would never run smooth , with two firings
followed by two exhausts. Kind of how a Harley lopes at idle.
The owner of this engine had my AP mentor , Dick Lawson, who I always said
could do remarkable things, make a double throw crankshaft. I saw the
product from beginning to end. Started with a huge block of steel with
blueing on it with all the scratch marks. Then he cut it out on a band saw.
Then to the lathe to turn everything but the polished journals, which was
done by a crank shop. and it was hardened to spec. Those little breathers
on top were his add on too.
He's now working on a second one for the same fellow.
If you or anyone wants more infro on the engine, I can find out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
>
> I just uploaded a pile of photos from Brodhead 2003. I don't know how
> long it will be before they are posted. Hopefully there are pictures of
> some useful details and maybe some answers to some puzzles. I was
> somewhat embarrassed to be taking so many pictures, but now I wish I had
> taken a lot more and talked to a lot more of you. What a cool event...
>
> John
>
> do not archive
>
>
> John Ford
> john@indstate.edu
> 812-237-8542
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
yes, yes, yes . . . leave them the full 1 inch square and taper the insides
until you reach the 1" width at the trailing edge. Otherwise, you'll have a
gap in the center where the lower rudder hinge bolts go through.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <NormDecou@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
>
> I went back to the pietenpol site where I found a picture of the fuselage
> from the back. It looks like both posts are left at their 1" dimension
before
> the taper starts.
> Do not archive
> NormDecou
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead photos |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
The engine in question is a 2 cylinder Lawrence engine going on a Bleriot
project.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
>
> John,
> Just wanted to give you some input on one of your Brodhead pics. The one
> near the top of an engine on a test stand. You had called it a C2 engine,
> but in fact it is some old , French, I think, engine that was like the
type
> flown over the english channel for the first time. The original design
had
> a "one journal" crankshaft (both pistons move left then both pistons move
> right) This meant that the engine would never run smooth , with two
firings
> followed by two exhausts. Kind of how a Harley lopes at idle.
> The owner of this engine had my AP mentor , Dick Lawson, who I always
said
> could do remarkable things, make a double throw crankshaft. I saw the
> product from beginning to end. Started with a huge block of steel with
> blueing on it with all the scratch marks. Then he cut it out on a band
saw.
> Then to the lathe to turn everything but the polished journals, which was
> done by a crank shop. and it was hardened to spec. Those little
breathers
> on top were his add on too.
> He's now working on a second one for the same fellow.
> If you or anyone wants more infro on the engine, I can find out.
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
> >
> > I just uploaded a pile of photos from Brodhead 2003. I don't know how
> > long it will be before they are posted. Hopefully there are pictures of
> > some useful details and maybe some answers to some puzzles. I was
> > somewhat embarrassed to be taking so many pictures, but now I wish I had
> > taken a lot more and talked to a lot more of you. What a cool event...
> >
> > John
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > John Ford
> > john@indstate.edu
> > 812-237-8542
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead photos |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Last weekend at the MACC flying at Brodhead they lit off a fresh rebuild of
a 1910 Anzani three-cylinder. It was very cool....
-john-
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
>
> The engine in question is a 2 cylinder Lawrence engine going on a Bleriot
> project.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
>>
>> John,
>> Just wanted to give you some input on one of your Brodhead pics. The one
>> near the top of an engine on a test stand. You had called it a C2 engine,
>> but in fact it is some old , French, I think, engine that was like the
> type
>> flown over the english channel for the first time. The original design
> had
>> a "one journal" crankshaft (both pistons move left then both pistons move
>> right) This meant that the engine would never run smooth , with two
> firings
>> followed by two exhausts. Kind of how a Harley lopes at idle.
>> The owner of this engine had my AP mentor , Dick Lawson, who I always
> said
>> could do remarkable things, make a double throw crankshaft. I saw the
>> product from beginning to end. Started with a huge block of steel with
>> blueing on it with all the scratch marks. Then he cut it out on a band
> saw.
>> Then to the lathe to turn everything but the polished journals, which was
>> done by a crank shop. and it was hardened to spec. Those little
> breathers
>> on top were his add on too.
>> He's now working on a second one for the same fellow.
>> If you or anyone wants more infro on the engine, I can find out.
>> walt evans
>> NX140DL
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
>>
>>
>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
>>>
>>> I just uploaded a pile of photos from Brodhead 2003. I don't know how
>>> long it will be before they are posted. Hopefully there are pictures of
>>> some useful details and maybe some answers to some puzzles. I was
>>> somewhat embarrassed to be taking so many pictures, but now I wish I had
>>> taken a lot more and talked to a lot more of you. What a cool event...
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> John Ford
>>> john@indstate.edu
>>> 812-237-8542
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------
John Hofmann
Manager, Information Technology
The Rees Group, Inc.
7600 Terrace Avenue, Ste. 203
Middleton, WI 53562
Phone: 608-831-3611, ext. 150
Fax: 608-831-5122
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
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| Subject: | Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 9/13/03 10:59:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
BARNSTMR@aol.com writes:
<< Corky, ............... Have Mr. Johnson hop in with you and y'all come
down
here to McGregor TX on the 20th (next weekend).
Chuck, ..............We're counting on you too. >>
Terry,
Is McGregor just to the southwest of Waco ?
Be the good Lord willin', and the winds don't rise, I'll be there !! I'm
planning on leaving Friday after work, and get as far south as I can, then
overnight someplace, and get there saturday morning sometime. I sure hope the
weather is better than this weekend. We've been socked in Fri. & Sat., however
tomorrow is lookin' good.
Hey Jon, is that Texas Catfish I smell cookin' ??
Hey Corky, how far would this flight be for you ?
Chuck Gantzer
Tailwheel is working good, new windshield installed, and, uh, well, I mounted
a bracket in the cockpit for that GPS....sigh. I just gotta resist the urge
to turn it on...
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| Subject: | Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Thanks for confirming that tailpost width at the trailing edge.
Please do not archive.
Norm and Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Brodhead photos |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Gene,
That name sounds familiar. He said the owner wanted to refly the English
Channel. ( In France they call it the French Channel! )
Oh Well.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
>
> The engine in question is a 2 cylinder Lawrence engine going on a Bleriot
> project.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
> >
> > John,
> > Just wanted to give you some input on one of your Brodhead pics. The
one
> > near the top of an engine on a test stand. You had called it a C2
engine,
> > but in fact it is some old , French, I think, engine that was like the
> type
> > flown over the english channel for the first time. The original design
> had
> > a "one journal" crankshaft (both pistons move left then both pistons
move
> > right) This meant that the engine would never run smooth , with two
> firings
> > followed by two exhausts. Kind of how a Harley lopes at idle.
> > The owner of this engine had my AP mentor , Dick Lawson, who I always
> said
> > could do remarkable things, make a double throw crankshaft. I saw the
> > product from beginning to end. Started with a huge block of steel with
> > blueing on it with all the scratch marks. Then he cut it out on a band
> saw.
> > Then to the lathe to turn everything but the polished journals, which
was
> > done by a crank shop. and it was hardened to spec. Those little
> breathers
> > on top were his add on too.
> > He's now working on a second one for the same fellow.
> > If you or anyone wants more infro on the engine, I can find out.
> > walt evans
> > NX140DL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead photos
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
> > >
> > > I just uploaded a pile of photos from Brodhead 2003. I don't know how
> > > long it will be before they are posted. Hopefully there are pictures
of
> > > some useful details and maybe some answers to some puzzles. I was
> > > somewhat embarrassed to be taking so many pictures, but now I wish I
had
> > > taken a lot more and talked to a lot more of you. What a cool
event...
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > > John Ford
> > > john@indstate.edu
> > > 812-237-8542
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: McGregor Fly-in - (was)Thomasville Fly-In |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
Pieters,
I'll talk to Edwin this week. It looks like 3hr plus. Maybe a rear rest stop
in or around Palestine. Not too far for a real trooper.
Corky
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