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1. 05:00 AM - Re: Grega ailerons (dan john)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: local spruce (John_Duprey@vmed.org)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Thomasville Fly-In (Gadd, Skip)
4. 05:19 AM - Re: Grega ailerons (Ken Rickards)
5. 05:46 AM - Re: HUBS (Ken Hannan)
6. 10:05 AM - Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (Steve Eldredge)
7. 10:14 AM - Re: Useful Weight (Steve Eldredge)
8. 10:28 AM - Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (DJ Vegh)
9. 11:29 AM - Jeanies Teenie (Jim Vydra)
10. 11:29 AM - Re: Useful Weight (Jeff Cours)
11. 12:09 PM - Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (rambog@erols.com)
12. 12:12 PM - Freebie from John Grega (Jim Vydra)
13. 12:17 PM - Re: Grega ailerons (dan john)
14. 12:33 PM - Re: CG was Useful Weight ()
15. 12:44 PM - New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
16. 01:00 PM - Re: Freebie from John Grega (DJ Vegh)
17. 01:31 PM - Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) (Steve Eldredge)
18. 03:49 PM - Contacts (Isablcorky@aol.com)
19. 04:26 PM - Re: Jeanies Teenie (david kowell)
20. 05:16 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/14/03 (ANNCARLEK@aol.com)
21. 05:17 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/14/03 (ANNCARLEK@aol.com)
22. 06:03 PM - Re: Useful Weight (Richard Navratil)
23. 07:46 PM - Re: Useful Weight (John Ford)
24. 07:54 PM - Re: HUBS (James Dallas)
25. 09:33 PM - Re: CG was Useful Weight (Rcaprd@aol.com)
26. 10:41 PM - Re: Gross Weight was CG was Useful Weight ()
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| Subject: | Re: Grega ailerons |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dan john <ballmell@yahoo.com>
Thanks DJ,thats kinda what I though.John P.
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| Subject: | Re: local spruce |
09/15/2003 08:11:04 AM
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John_Duprey@vmed.org
I agree check for local boat shops they should be able to help you locate a
source. Many years ago when I lived outside Philly there were a number of
builders in Deleware.
Best wishes
John
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| Subject: | Thomasville Fly-In |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
I'm planning on going, may take the 172 if VFR.
Skip
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| Subject: | Re: Grega ailerons |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca>
I changed my ailerons to match the original BP design. I will then use the
same piano hinge system as Mike Cuy.
It's easy to change them over and you don't have to worry about sealing the
gap. As for does one design work better than the other? I don't know, but
the original BP design has worked well for a long time.
http://home.cogeco.ca/%7Epietbuilder/index.htm
Ken
GN1 2992
Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "dan john" <ballmell@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grega ailerons
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dan john <ballmell@yahoo.com>
>
> Hay gang,I understand that the ailerons on a Piet work
> much better if thay are sealed.Can anyone tell me if
> the ailerons on a Grega also need to be sealed,or does
> the hinging in the center rather than the top allow
> them to work better? Thanks,John P.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
James,
I will be posting pictures of my Peit this week, as I figure out
how to work this new camera
but in the mean time this the link to the pictures from the guy who makes
the Hubs.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=8
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
>
> Ken, Do you have any pictures?
>
> Jim D
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Hannan
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
>
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
>
> I just received the wheel hubs for my piet from Ken Perkins
kenandvernaperkins@sbcglobal.net
> very nice and only $150.00 dollars a pair with the bushings installed.
>
> Ken
>
>
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| Subject: | Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Just another option. I glued my single 1x1 in place after the tail came
together.
Saves a lot of headache trying to taper it to the correct fit.
Steve e.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NormDecou@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Thanks for confirming that tailpost width at the trailing edge.
Please do not archive.
Norm and Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
There isn't much published on the gross weight. I set mine at 1200lbs
not knowing any better at the time.
I've got an A-65 powered 626Lbs ship. 14 gallons fuel. I live at 4500'
I have lifted off at 1170lbs gross. Expect 100' per minute or less on
high density altitude days. Solo at about 1000lbs I get 3-400 fpm
climb. (Quite satisfactory since I only try for 800' on most flights.
I think an 0-200 would be a perfect fit under these conditions. It
would really perform in any temperature solo, and still be respectable
with two adults on board.
260lbs is going to be too much I think for the rear seat solo. I'm at
230 on a heavy day and I'm toward the rear of the CG envelope. I've got
20 lbs of lead on the nose to motivate me to loose weight. 7 years and
its still there.
Steve E.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deon
Engelmann
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Useful Weight
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Deon Engelmann"
<engelmannd@icon.co.za>
Hi all
I've been lurking for quite a while on this list as the Pietenpol is one
of my favorite airplanes. It is the simplicity and back to basics of the
airplane that keeps on drawing me back to it.
I need to make a decision for or against building the Pietenpol.
What I need to know is the useful weight of the aircraft as I've seen
everything from 610 lb empty with 385lb useful (995 lb max) to 535 lb
empty with 715 lb useful (1250 lb max). I weight in at 260lb and my wife
at 120. That does not leave much over for fuel if useful weight is only
385 lb. ;-)
My home airport is at 5330 feet above sea level. If I build the
Pietenpol it will have an O-200 in to compensate for altitude. (Model A
fords are very scarce in South Africa.)
I would appreciate any comments Thanx
Deon Engelmann
EAA322 Midrand # SA12055
Pretoria
South Africa
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| Subject: | Re: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
but you still have to taper the longerons.
DJ
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Eldredge
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Just another option. I glued my single 1x1 in place after the tail came
together.
Saves a lot of headache trying to taper it to the correct fit.
Steve e.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NormDecou@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Thanks for confirming that tailpost width at the trailing edge.
Please do not archive.
Norm and Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
I just listed a set of plans and instructions on this metal airplane on ebay.
Not a Piet or a GN1 but if you know someone looking for a metal airplane rated
to take 6G and cruise at 120 mph, please let em know.
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| Subject: | Re: Useful Weight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
Steve Eldredge wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
> 260lbs is going to be too much I think for the rear seat solo. I'm at
> 230 on a heavy day and I'm toward the rear of the CG envelope. I've got
> 20 lbs of lead on the nose to motivate me to loose weight. 7 years and
> its still there.
During construction, I wonder if you could extend the motor mount by a
few inches to shift the CG forward. If you start getting too many
questions about the long nose, you could always stick a big pipe out the
side and tell 'em it's a turbine powered Piet. ;-)
I think the recommended way of adjusting the CG is to move the wing, but
I'm nowhere near that part in construction. Hopefully one of the kind
folks on this list who's been there and done that can comment on how
well that approach might work for you.
- Jeff
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| Subject: | Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com" <rambog@erols.com>
The problem with that solution, though, is that the tailpost is WIDER than
1" at its forward side when built to the plans. Sorry, your solution only
causes another headache.
Gene
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From: Steve Eldredge steve@byu.edu
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Just another option. I glued my single 1x1 in place after the tail came
together.
Saves a lot of headache trying to taper it to the correct fit.
Steve e.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NormDecou@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Thanks for confirming that tailpost width at the trailing edge.
Please do not archive.
Norm and Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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| Subject: | Freebie from John Grega |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
Many of you have probably seen this before, fun tracing I found among John Grega's
stuff.
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| Subject: | Re: Grega ailerons |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dan john <ballmell@yahoo.com>
Ken,thanks for the input.Wish I had known about this
aleron thing when we built them.It`s always more
diffecult to change things later.John P.
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| Subject: | Re: CG was Useful Weight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Jeff,
You are correct that the recommended way to adjust the CG is to move the wing
back. If you choose to extend the engine mount forward BH Pietenpol cautioned
that the plane my not recover from a slip as well if you do.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Quoting Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Cours <piet-j@moriarti.org>
>
> Steve Eldredge wrote:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
> > 260lbs is going to be too much I think for the rear seat solo. I'm at
> > 230 on a heavy day and I'm toward the rear of the CG envelope. I've got
> > 20 lbs of lead on the nose to motivate me to loose weight. 7 years and
> > its still there.
>
> During construction, I wonder if you could extend the motor mount by a
> few inches to shift the CG forward. If you start getting too many
> questions about the long nose, you could always stick a big pipe out the
> side and tell 'em it's a turbine powered Piet. ;-)
>
> I think the recommended way of adjusting the CG is to move the wing, but
> I'm nowhere near that part in construction. Hopefully one of the kind
> folks on this list who's been there and done that can comment on how
> well that approach might work for you.
>
> - Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Dear Listers,
I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this
evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes
in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming
email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent
to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-)
The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses
each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely
effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its
time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this
SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent
solution.
I will post a follow up message later in the week when things
have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Freebie from John Grega |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
hmmm.... nothing was attached.
DJ
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Vydra
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Freebie from John Grega
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
Many of you have probably seen this before, fun tracing I found among John Grega's
stuff.
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| Subject: | Tailpost width - found it (Sorry) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
True, but so what? It is a very slight wedge, and your gusseted on six
sides.
Worked well for me, you mileage may vary.
Steve E.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rambog@erols.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "rambog@erols.com"
<rambog@erols.com>
The problem with that solution, though, is that the tailpost is WIDER
than
1" at its forward side when built to the plans. Sorry, your solution
only
causes another headache.
Gene
Original Message:
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From: Steve Eldredge steve@byu.edu
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Just another option. I glued my single 1x1 in place after the tail came
together.
Saves a lot of headache trying to taper it to the correct fit.
Steve e.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NormDecou@aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailpost width - found it (Sorry)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: NormDecou@aol.com
Thanks for confirming that tailpost width at the trailing edge.
Please do not archive.
Norm and Adrienne Decou
NormDecou@aol.com
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
I need for Gantzer to come back to me off Piet list. Big question for you
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Jeanies Teenie |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "david kowell" <dkowell@cstone.net>
yea know that one well my dad died i one of those
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Vydra" <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jeanies Teenie
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra <jvydra@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I just listed a set of plans and instructions on this metal airplane on
ebay. Not a Piet or a GN1 but if you know someone looking for a metal
airplane rated to take 6G and cruise at 120 mph, please let em know.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/14/03 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com
In a message dated 9/14/03 11:57:10 PM, pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com
writes:
<< From: "Deon Engelmann" <engelmannd@icon.co.za>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Useful Weight
>>
I too would like to find out what most of us use for gross weight. I'm doing
some stress calculations, which I hope to share with you. Bernie specified
1080 pounds in the 1932 manual. I'm going to use that for now, but we mostly use
more powerful engines, and we could specify a higher gross, as builders. The
wing loading at take off is only about 7.7 lbs/sq. ft., and the feds require
that the structure survive 4.4g Pos., less negative.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/14/03 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com
In a message dated 9/14/03 11:57:10 PM, pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com
writes:
<< From: "William Rives Young" <wry22@drexel.edu>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: local spruce >>
Fir is always an acceptable substitute for Spruce, according to the FARs.
Carl L @ Compton Airport
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| Subject: | Re: Useful Weight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Steve's comments on this were very good. The problem on this group is most
of us are from slightly above sea level to 2000 ft. The lack of comments
are because most of us havent finished scratching our heads on that one.
There had been some discussion in the past about piets at higher elevations.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deon Engelmann" <engelmannd@icon.co.za>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Useful Weight
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Deon Engelmann"
<engelmannd@icon.co.za>
>
> Hi all
>
> I've been lurking for quite a while on this list as the Pietenpol is one
> of my favorite airplanes. It is the simplicity and back to basics of the
> airplane that keeps on drawing me back to it.
>
> I need to make a decision for or against building the Pietenpol.
> What I need to know is the useful weight of the aircraft as I've seen
> everything from 610 lb empty with 385lb useful (995 lb max) to 535 lb
> empty with 715 lb useful (1250 lb max). I weight in at 260lb and my wife
> at 120. That does not leave much over for fuel if useful weight is only
> 385 lb. ;-)
>
> My home airport is at 5330 feet above sea level. If I build the
> Pietenpol it will have an O-200 in to compensate for altitude. (Model A
> fords are very scarce in South Africa.)
>
> I would appreciate any comments Thanx
>
> Deon Engelmann
> EAA322 Midrand # SA12055
> Pretoria
> South Africa
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Useful Weight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
What about the Subaru setup? Details, anyone?
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> horzpool@goldengate.net Monday, September 15, 2003 8:03:23 PM >>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil"
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
Steve's comments on this were very good. The problem on this group is
most
of us are from slightly above sea level to 2000 ft. The lack of
comments
are because most of us havent finished scratching our heads on that
one.
There had been some discussion in the past about piets at higher
elevations.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deon Engelmann" <engelmannd@icon.co.za>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Useful Weight
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Deon Engelmann"
<engelmannd@icon.co.za>
>
> Hi all
>
> I've been lurking for quite a while on this list as the Pietenpol is
one
> of my favorite airplanes. It is the simplicity and back to basics of
the
> airplane that keeps on drawing me back to it.
>
> I need to make a decision for or against building the Pietenpol.
> What I need to know is the useful weight of the aircraft as I've
seen
> everything from 610 lb empty with 385lb useful (995 lb max) to 535
lb
> empty with 715 lb useful (1250 lb max). I weight in at 260lb and my
wife
> at 120. That does not leave much over for fuel if useful weight is
only
> 385 lb. ;-)
>
> My home airport is at 5330 feet above sea level. If I build the
> Pietenpol it will have an O-200 in to compensate for altitude. (Model
A
> fords are very scarce in South Africa.)
>
> I would appreciate any comments Thanx
>
> Deon Engelmann
> EAA322 Midrand # SA12055
> Pretoria
> South Africa
>
>
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Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:47:08 -0500
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
Thanks for the info Ken.
Jim D
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Hannan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
James,
I will be posting pictures of my Peit this week, as I figure out
how to work this new camera
but in the mean time this the link to the pictures from the guy who makes
the Hubs.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID8
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James Dallas" <BEC176@msn.com>
>
> Ken, Do you have any pictures?
>
> Jim D
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Hannan
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:05 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: HUBS
>
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
>
> I just received the wheel hubs for my piet from Ken Perkins
kenandvernaperkins@sbcglobal.net
> very nice and only $150.00 dollars a pair with the bushings installed.
>
> Ken
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CG was Useful Weight |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 9/15/03 2:34:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
catdesign@intergate.com writes:
<< You are correct that the recommended way to adjust the CG is to move the
wing back. If you choose to extend the engine mount forward BH Pietenpol
cautioned that the plane my not recover from a slip as well if you do. >>
I have the Short Fuselage. I weigh 210 lbs. Empty weight with the
Continental A65 is 625 lbs. When I had the Model A on my plane, I had to move
the
wing back 3 1/2", and use 14 lb chunk of lead (that I cast to fit the bell
housing bolt pattern) bolted to the engine, to just barely keep the CG ahead of
the aft limit. Using ballast gives me the hiebie jiebies !! Although we, as
builders, have the option of setting gross weight at anything we choose, I
set my gross weight limit at 1080 lbs., per recommended by B.H.P. I was also
aware of the recommendation by B.H.P. about the long nose plane not coming out
of a slip.
I figured out on paper, how far to extend the Continental engine mount,
to maintain a safe C.G., without adding any balast, and leaving the wing at 3
1/2" back. I came up with 8" longer than the Orrin Hoopman Contental engine
mount plans. I used heavier wall tubing (.060"), and built the engine mount
eight inches longer than plans, and all said and done, it came out exactly where
I calculated it, stays in the C.G range no matter what the configuration is,
and no ballast !! The nose is long, and I have not had any trouble coming out
of a slip. I have been practicing coming in high on final, 1/4 mile out and
maybe 500 feet, pull power almost to idle and the nose really drops, then even
put it in a slip, and she comes down so fast, that I just barely make the
numbers, with no trouble at all coming out of a slip. This is good practice to
be ready for an engine failure. Flying behind that Model A has built a little
voice in my sub conscious - every couple of minutes of flying, that little
voice asks "If this engine fails right now, where are you going to land ?".
Flying at the heavier weights causes the plane to wallaw around a little
taxiing, and on rollout on landing. Feels like it could get away from me
unless I'm really dancing on that rudder. It's the bunji chords. I just can't
get them tight enough. I tie up the loops, as called in the plans, and I've
re-done all four bunjies at least five times, trying to get them tight enough,
and they are a real pain to install on the struts. I have the split axle gear,
but I think this is a fairly common problem on Piets, no matter what style
gear.
...OK, what was that question ???
Chuck Gantzer
Wichita KS
NX770CG
From Trees & Rags,
to Stick & Rudder,
Pietenpols are FOREVER !!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Weight was CG was Useful Weight |
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Did anyone else notice in one of the pictures recently posted by John Ford
to http://www.matronics.com/photoshare there is a picture of the data plate
from the Last Original Air Camper built by BHP. Take a look at the max
weight, it says 1280 pounds.
Interesting, very interesting.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
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