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1. 05:26 AM - (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Ch 1161 Newsletter (John Dilatush)
3. 06:12 AM - Dihedral (Sayre, William G)
4. 06:37 AM - going against the grain (Michael D Cuy)
5. 08:07 AM - Re: Springs and landing gear (Seibert Bob-r18643)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in ()
7. 08:47 AM - Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in ()
8. 10:47 AM - Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in ()
9. 12:53 PM - Dreams, was Corby Starlet (Steve Eldredge)
10. 01:59 PM - Re: (Greg Cardinal)
11. 06:43 PM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/23/03 (Alex Sloan)
12. 08:08 PM - tail wheel spring (Richard Navratil)
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Hello,]
New member to your discussion group here. My first question is... Where would
you guys recommends I go for Model A gauges; tach, water temp, oil temp etc. And
what kinds have worked for you. I'd love to find some modern mechanical gauges
with a vintage look, but so many new suppliers are only making electric gauges.
Any thoughts?
Also, know anyone who wants to make a Piet radiator?
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Ch 1161 Newsletter |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ch 1161 Newsletter
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THANK YOU CHUCK FOR THE ARTICLE, I'LL LOOK FOR MORE FROM YOU!
John, Chapter 1161 Newsletter Lackey
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> Hey John,
> Thanks for the copy of the newsletter you put out!! You do a great job on
> it, with color photo's and all. And now, I have another of my articles in
print
> !! Way Cool !!
>
> Chuck G.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
> Oh, er, maybe you didn't notice the plans...there is NO dihedral in a
> Pietenpol ;)
> I think maybe Mike Cuy overlooked this also...
>
> Chuck G.
> just trying to stir it up
>
Hey Chuck! I'll take the challenge. I understand that Bernie mounted the solid
one-piece wing to the cabanes and then had two fellows lift on each wing tip
when he measured for the lift struts thereby building in dome dihedral. 2" does
seem a bit much though. I had a Piet with anhedral and it always stalled
to one side or the other - made windy landings fun and I was often thought to
be the opening clown act at local air shows in those conditions!!!
Bill
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| Subject: | going against the grain |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> > Oh, er, maybe you didn't notice the plans...there is NO dihedral in a
> > Pietenpol ;)
> > I think maybe Mike Cuy overlooked this also...
> >> Chuck G.
Chuck-- being friends with Frank Pavliga since about 1985 or so and his
best man, when I decided to build my Piet I wanted to really aggravate him
by doing things like adding brakes, a tailwheel w/ leaf springs, using
chrome, having a glossy finish, and adding dihedral. It drove him nuts,
I'm sure since he was such a purist about these things. Like Bernie
never tried all kinds of different things, you know ? Hah. I love it.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Springs and landing gear |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Seibert Bob-r18643 <Bob.Seibert@motorola.com>
Jim,
There is a copy of the spring strut drawing and landing gear jig in the mail to
you today.
These are the drawings I used to build my gear which is working real well (so far).
I adjusted the height to accomodate 18" motorcycle wheels vs. the 6.00 x 6 wheels
that the drawing is for.
Hope you can post them somewhere.
I lost the receipt for the springs I used but they can be bought over the internet
pretty easily.
If you do a Google search for "Die Springs" you will get a lot of hits for suppy
houses.
I used the 1 1/2 OD X 6 Gold springs. (The gold color indicates they are heavy
duty)
Here is one of the links that I found. http://www.diesupplies.com/catalog/springs/27ehr.html <http://www.diesupplies.com/catalog/springs/27ehr.html>
I think thats where I got mine but I can't swear to it.
Regards,
Bob Seibert
NX23TX
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| Subject: | Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I believe the Hay Bailer spring is for the tail wheel.
Chris
Quoting "" <BARNSTMR@aol.com>:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com
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> One of the local guys here used a $6 John Deere Hay bailer spring not sure
> what part number. I am also going to contact the Lamina company as well. I
> will let you guys know what I find out.
>
> Terry L. Bowden
> ph 254-715-4773
> fax 254-853-3805
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| Subject: | Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I made an error when I sent out this message below. The Lamina H-56 has a ID
of 3/4" NOT 1" as I stated. The plans in the BPA news letter calls for a 2"OD
and 3/4"ID spring.
Sorry for the confusion.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Quoting "" <catdesign@intergate.com>:
> When I get home from work today I can email you a scan the drawing showing
> the
> spring assembly that was in the BPA newsletter if you still need it. The
> springs recommended are Lamina H-56 die springs. The springs are 6" long
> 2.0"OD 1.0"ID wire diameter 0.225 x 0.350, Max Deflection 30% of free length
>
> 1051.20 pounds 1.8" length of deflection.
>
> Chris T.
> Sacramento, Ca
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuselage weight - setback - McGregor Fly-in |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I can't seem to get anything right today. I think I need more sleep. The
springs called out in the BPA news letter are Lamina H-56 1-3/4"OD 3/4" ID.
Thats quite enough from me for today. I'm going to go take a nap.
Chris T.
Sleepless in Sacramento, Ca
Quoting "" <catdesign@intergate.com>:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
>
> I made an error when I sent out this message below. The Lamina H-56 has a ID
>
> of 3/4" NOT 1" as I stated. The plans in the BPA news letter calls for a
> 2"OD
> and 3/4"ID spring.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Chris T.
>
> Sacramento, Ca
>
> Quoting "" <catdesign@intergate.com>:
>
> > When I get home from work today I can email you a scan the drawing showing
> > the
> > spring assembly that was in the BPA newsletter if you still need it. The
> > springs recommended are Lamina H-56 die springs. The springs are 6" long
> > 2.0"OD 1.0"ID wire diameter 0.225 x 0.350, Max Deflection 30% of free
> length
> >
> > 1051.20 pounds 1.8" length of deflection.
> >
> > Chris T.
> > Sacramento, Ca
> >
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
Mike, and all good friends,
Long time no write....
I'll jump in on this one. I've long liked the Tailwind and bought
plans, and started the wings. I even started selling wing ribs to folks
at one point. Same feelings with the Starlet. Now that you mention it,
I really like the Hatz, then there is what I really want is one of those
new kit WACOs.... I really digress.
My brother now has the Tailwind plans and is slowly building an
airframe, and a family. He has already outgrown the airplane, but no
matter.
I on the other hand went for the BearHawk. Following Will Graffs
example. Got side-tracked with a Stinson 108-2 rebuild that is now
ready for cover.
Folks Just a little advise... "STAY WITH EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT!" don't
let friends try the certified route. More headaches. I think the
government would rather see certified GA planes go away.
Anyway, I'm still flying the piet regularly and love it. Low and slow
is the best. I'm really looking forward to the 75th Anniversary next
year. I'll make the trip again in the piet and maybe the Stinson.
Glad to see the list still in such good spirits,
Steve E.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corby Starlet--do not archive
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Guys--- Have you noticed that there is a general trend with Pietenpol
and
GN-1 builders that gravitates them toward building a Wittman Tailwind as
their follow-on project ? I can see why that happens too, for many
reasons. One design that has never really caught on in the US is the
Starlet that is an Australian design from the late 1960's. I know it's
only a single seat plane, but it is all wood and reminds me of an RV-3
that
was left in the dryer too long. While the list is a bit slow I
thought
I'd throw this out for any of your input. (what I'm saying is that I
think I found the plane I want NEXT.)
still in some clothes I wore in 1989.........
Mike C.
do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Greg Cardinal" <gcardinal@startribune.com>
Source for gauges and other early Ford stuff is:
Little Dearborn
2424 University Ave. SE.
Minneapolis, MN 55414
612 331-2066
Custom radiators can be had at:
Carlberg Radiator
1310 East 66th St.
Richfield, MN 55423
612 866-5107
Several Pietenpols are wearing radiators built by Carlberg Radiator
Greg Cardinal, Minneapolis
>>> douweblumberg@earthlink.net 09/25/03 07:29AM >>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg"
<douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Hello,]
New member to your discussion group here. My first question is...
Where would you guys recommends I go for Model A gauges; tach, water
temp, oil temp etc. And what kinds have worked for you. I'd love to
find some modern mechanical gauges with a vintage look, but so many new
suppliers are only making electric gauges. Any thoughts?
Also, know anyone who wants to make a Piet radiator?
Douwe
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/23/03 |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alex Sloan" <alexms1@bellsouth.net>
Fellow Pietenpol builders,
I weighed my fuselage today. Sides glued together with all the plywood and
firewall installed. Rear seat and front seat. Total weight is 57 lbs.
Alex Sloan
----- Original Message -----
From: <ANNCARLEK@aol.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/23/03
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 9/23/03 11:57:04 PM,
pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com
> writes:
>
> << From: JamesJboyer@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Steel Fuselage weight >>
>
> Jim, my Fir fuselage, with seats,instrument panels, turtleback,various
metal
> fittings, weighed in at 71 pounds.
>
>
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| Subject: | tail wheel spring |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
I went to a farm tractor dealer the other day for the ol Massey Ferguson and noticed
a pile of assorted used springs about 4 ft high, all right about what a
Piet would need.
Dick
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