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1. 05:27 AM - shoulder harness (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 07:56 AM - Re: shoulder harness (John Dilatush)
3. 08:48 AM - Front shoulder harness (Sayre, William G)
4. 10:25 AM - Re: shoulder harness (Ken Chambers)
5. 10:25 AM - Re: shoulder harness (Ken Chambers)
6. 10:31 AM - Re: Front shoulder harness (Ken Hannan)
7. 05:01 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 10/08/03 (ANNCARLEK@aol.com)
8. 09:15 PM - Re: shoulder harness (Rcaprd@aol.com)
9. 10:45 PM - Re: *****SPAM***** Re: shoulder harness ()
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Thanks for all the good input on shoulder harness. I wasn't thinking of
running them to the top of the cabanes, I thought tying into the
fittings down by the top longeron might work.
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<DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks for all the good input on
shoulder
harness. I wasn't thinking of running them to the top of the
cabanes, I
thought tying into the fittings down by the top longeron might
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| Subject: | Re: shoulder harness |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: shoulder harness
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Douwe and other Pieters,
Just a last thought on the shoulder harness issue----have you thought of
just lowering the seat?
I lowered mine 1 1/2" and it makes all the difference in the world, shoulder
harness OK, room for padding your butt if needed, less propwash, and you
don't look like you are sitting on the plane rather than in the plane. The
only drawback is less foward visibility, but you get used to this quickly.
Think about it.
John Dilatush, NX114D
Salida, Colorado
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg"
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> Thanks for all the good input on shoulder harness. I wasn't thinking of
> running them to the top of the cabanes, I thought tying into the
> fittings down by the top longeron might work.
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> harness. I wasn't thinking of running them to the top of the
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| Subject: | Front shoulder harness |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
Gene Rambo wrote:
"I'm not so sure that tieing the front harness to the cabanes is such a
no-brainer. In a crash, the wing is almost certainly to take a hit. If either
wingtip hits something and shoves the wing aft, and if the front shoulder harness
is attached to the top of the cabanes, you are going to strain the front
passenger through the belt. I think keeping the belts tied to the fuselage (not
that I know HOW to do that) is the proper thing to do."
And Chuck G. wrote:
"As for the passenger, Gene makes a good point about the top of the cabane struts,
but I don't see any other way to terminate them, and maintain the correct
angle."
I'll explain the dumbest way to hook up the front shoulder harness. As high up
as possible on the front seat back, cut two slots spread appropriately for the
straps to come through. Unless you carry a tall person up front routinely,
this should be close to above many peoples' shoulders. On the backside of that
plywood panel, glue two vertical supports down to structure. Attach cables
that run at an angle over to each side and follow structure down to the lap belt
attach point of the rear seat. When running down the structure, the cable
is attached to keep it from getting in the pilots way but in an accident, this
would act as a zip-cord and pull straight. Check both attached and unattached
to see how much it adds to the slack and how it routes behind the instrument
panel. You'll be surprised how little length is gained. Probably the biggest
challenge is routing through all the gryo-instruments and radio stack behind
the instrument panel.
I know this is the dumbest way to hook up the front shoulder harness, because I've
routed mine that way and people have commented on how simple and effective
it looks. I refuse to test it however, so copy the idea at your own risk.
I've seen one installation were there's simply a cable stretched between the cabanes
and the cable and thus the shoulder harness could easily be removed when
not carrying a passenger which would really be nice. I almost went this route
but had the same concerns that both Gene and Chuck mentioned.
The important thing (IMHO) is to provide the protection. The key is that the attach
point can be anywhere; it's the fulcrum (for lack of better term) that's
important in the design. That's why automobile seatbelts have a loop on the
door jam or headrest for the shoulder harness to pass through even though they
may attach lower than your shoulders.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I probably should have sent a picture.
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| Subject: | Re: shoulder harness |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" <kchambers@winternals.com>
The Brits have another way of doing the passenger shoulder harness, but
it's not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly and reinforcements.
One of the UK Aircamper members was kind enough to send a diagram, but I
misplaced it a couple of moves ago. Let me know if you'd like to see it
and I'll try again to find it, copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps
if any of our English friends are reading they might send something to
the list download page?
I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the cabanes, but that's an
interesting point about the wings wrenching around in a crash.
Ken in Austin, sitting on finished seats and making engine noises with
my little boy.
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shoulder
harness, but it’s not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly
and
reinforcements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>One of the UK <span classSpellE>Aircamper</span>
members
was kind enough to send a diagram, but I misplaced it a couple of moves
ago.
Let me know if you’d like to see it and I’ll try again to
find it,
copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps if any of our English friends
are
reading they might send something to the list download page?
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style'font-size:10.0pt;
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<span
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about the
wings wrenching around in a crash. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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finished seats and making engine noises with my little boy.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" <kchambers@winternals.com>
Here's a link with a small diagram and more information on the
PFA-approved seat belt harness:
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~csellen/May%202001.htm
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harness:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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| Subject: | Re: Front shoulder harness |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
Do you have pictures of the seat belts?
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Front shoulder harness
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G"
<william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
>
> Gene Rambo wrote:
> "I'm not so sure that tieing the front harness to the cabanes is such a
> no-brainer. In a crash, the wing is almost certainly to take a hit. If
either wingtip hits something and shoves the wing aft, and if the front
shoulder harness is attached to the top of the cabanes, you are going to
strain the front passenger through the belt. I think keeping the belts tied
to the fuselage (not that I know HOW to do that) is the proper thing to do."
>
> And Chuck G. wrote:
> "As for the passenger, Gene makes a good point about the top of the cabane
struts, but I don't see any other way to terminate them, and maintain the
correct angle."
>
>
> I'll explain the dumbest way to hook up the front shoulder harness. As
high up as possible on the front seat back, cut two slots spread
appropriately for the straps to come through. Unless you carry a tall
person up front routinely, this should be close to above many peoples'
shoulders. On the backside of that plywood panel, glue two vertical
supports down to structure. Attach cables that run at an angle over to each
side and follow structure down to the lap belt attach point of the rear
seat. When running down the structure, the cable is attached to keep it
from getting in the pilots way but in an accident, this would act as a
zip-cord and pull straight. Check both attached and unattached to see how
much it adds to the slack and how it routes behind the instrument panel.
You'll be surprised how little length is gained. Probably the biggest
challenge is routing through all the gryo-instruments and radio stack behind
the instrument panel.
>
> I know this is the dumbest way to hook up the front shoulder harness,
because I've routed mine that way and people have commented on how simple
and effective it looks. I refuse to test it however, so copy the idea at
your own risk.
>
> I've seen one installation were there's simply a cable stretched between
the cabanes and the cable and thus the shoulder harness could easily be
removed when not carrying a passenger which would really be nice. I almost
went this route but had the same concerns that both Gene and Chuck
mentioned.
>
> The important thing (IMHO) is to provide the protection. The key is that
the attach point can be anywhere; it's the fulcrum (for lack of better term)
that's important in the design. That's why automobile seatbelts have a loop
on the door jam or headrest for the shoulder harness to pass through even
though they may attach lower than your shoulders.
>
> They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I probably should have sent
a picture.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ANNCARLEK@aol.com
<< --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> >>
Gene - Thanks a lot for that great observation about putting the belt on the
cabanes. I will certainly take it to heart, and find another way of mounting
my belts for the front. I already have the rear belt going to the tail section.
Carl L @ Compton Airport
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 10/9/03 12:26:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
kchambers@winternals.com writes:
<< Or perhaps
if any of our English friends are reading they might send something to
the list download page? >>
I used the link that Ken sent, but the diagram is not very ledgible.
William, a picture from you would also be very helpful.
I am very interested in the Brit's method. I'm to the point of adding this
harness, so as to give others the 'Pietenpol Experience'.
Chuck Gantzer
tuesday evening, closed traffic, dozen landings, two on hard surface narrow
runway - lovin' it !!!
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I have a copy of the British seat belt and harness installation
method. If anyone wants me to scan it and send them a copy just let me know.
It's about 6 pages long I think. I cant do it until tomorrow (Friday) night
though.
Chris
Sacramento, Ca.
Quoting Ken Chambers <kchambers@winternals.com>:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
> <kchambers@winternals.com>
>
>
> The Brits have another way of doing the passenger shoulder harness, but
> it's not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly and reinforcements.
>
>
> One of the UK Aircamper members was kind enough to send a diagram, but I
> misplaced it a couple of moves ago. Let me know if you'd like to see it
> and I'll try again to find it, copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps
> if any of our English friends are reading they might send something to
> the list download page?
>
> I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the cabanes, but that's an
> interesting point about the wings wrenching around in a crash.
>
> Ken in Austin, sitting on finished seats and making engine noises with
> my little boy.
>
>
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> <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>The Brits have another way of doing the passenger
> shoulder
> harness, but it’s not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly
> and
> reinforcements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;
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> <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>One of the UK <span classSpellE>Aircamper</span>
> members
> was kind enough to send a diagram, but I misplaced it a couple of moves
> ago.
> Let me know if you’d like to see it and I’ll try again to
> find it,
> copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps if any of our English friends
> are
> reading they might send something to the list download page?
> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the
> <span
> classSpellE>cabanes</span>, but that’s an interesting point
> about the
> wings wrenching around in a crash. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Ken in </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
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> style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Austin</span></font></st1:pl=
> ace></st1:City><font
> size2 faceArial><span
> style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, sitting on
> finished seats and making engine noises with my little boy.
> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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