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Fri 10/10/03


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 12:11 AM - Titanium (Clif Dawson)
     2. 07:38 AM -  Re: shoulder harness (Ken Hannan)
     3. 08:33 AM - Front shoulder harness (Sayre, William G)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:11:58 AM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Titanium
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca> Here's a couple of links for those interested in this stuff http://www.titaniumjoe.com/ http://titanium.net/GIsec2b.htm <HTML><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2733.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's a couple of links for those interested in this stuff</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://www.titaniumjoe.com/">http://www.titaniumjoe.com/</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="http://titanium.net/GIsec2b.htm">http://titanium.net/GIsec2b.htm</A></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


    Message 2


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    Time: 07:38:43 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: shoulder harness
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net> Chris can you email a copy to me? Thanks Ken Hannan Temecula, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <catdesign@intergate.com> Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Pietenpol-List: shoulder harness > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com> > > I have a copy of the British seat belt and harness installation > method. If anyone wants me to scan it and send them a copy just let me know. > It's about 6 pages long I think. I cant do it until tomorrow (Friday) night > though. > > Chris > Sacramento, Ca. > > > Quoting Ken Chambers <kchambers@winternals.com>: > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" > > <kchambers@winternals.com> > > > > > > The Brits have another way of doing the passenger shoulder harness, but > > it's not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly and reinforcements. > > > > > > One of the UK Aircamper members was kind enough to send a diagram, but I > > misplaced it a couple of moves ago. Let me know if you'd like to see it > > and I'll try again to find it, copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps > > if any of our English friends are reading they might send something to > > the list download page? > > > > I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the cabanes, but that's an > > interesting point about the wings wrenching around in a crash. > > > > Ken in Austin, sitting on finished seats and making engine noises with > > my little boy. > > > > > > <html xmlns:o"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" > > xmlns:w"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > > xmlns:st1"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > > xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > > <head> > > <meta nameProgId contentWord.Document> > > <meta nameGenerator content"Microsoft Word 10"> > > <meta nameOriginator content"Microsoft Word 10"> > > <link relFile-List href"cid:filelist.xml@01C38E5F.BE774270"> > > <o:SmartTagType > > namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > > name"City"/> > > <o:SmartTagType > > namespaceuri"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" > > name"place"/> > > <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > > <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > > <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> > > </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > > </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > > <w:WordDocument> > > <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> > > <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> > > <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> > > <w:EnvelopeVis/> > > <w:Compatibility> > > <w:BreakWrappedTables/> > > <w:SnapToGridInCell/> > > <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> > > <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> > > </w:Compatibility> > > <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> > > </w:WordDocument> > > </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> > > <style> > > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > > </style> > > <![endif]--> > > <style> > > <!-- > > /* Style Definitions */ > > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > > {mso-style-parent:""; > > margin:0in; > > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > > font-size:12.0pt; > > font-family:"Times New Roman"; > > mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} > > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > > {color:blue; > > text-decoration:underline; > > text-underline:single;} > > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > > {color:purple; > > text-decoration:underline; > > text-underline:single;} > > span.EmailStyle17 > > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > > mso-style-noshow:yes; > > mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; > > mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial; > > mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; > > mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; > > mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; > > color:windowtext;} > > span.SpellE > > {mso-style-name:""; > > mso-spl-e:yes;} > > @page Section1 > > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; > > mso-header-margin:.5in; > > mso-footer-margin:.5in; > > mso-paper-source:0;} > > div.Section1 > > {page:Section1;} > > --> > > </style> > > <!--[if gte mso 10]> > > <style> > > /* Style Definitions */ > > table.MsoNormalTable > > {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; > > mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; > > mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; > > mso-style-noshow:yes; > > mso-style-parent:""; > > mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; > > mso-para-margin:0in; > > mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; > > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > > font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > > </style> > > <![endif]--> > > </head> > > > > <body langEN-US linkblue vlinkpurple > > style'tab-interval:.5in'> > > > > <div classSection1> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'>The Brits have another way of doing the passenger > > shoulder > > harness, but it&#8217;s not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly > > and > > reinforcements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'>One of the UK <span classSpellE>Aircamper</span> > > members > > was kind enough to send a diagram, but I misplaced it a couple of moves > > ago. > > Let me know if you&#8217;d like to see it and I&#8217;ll try again to > > find it, > > copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps if any of our English friends > > are > > reading they might send something to the list download page? > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'>I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the > > <span > > classSpellE>cabanes</span>, but that&#8217;s an interesting point > > about the > > wings wrenching around in a crash. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt; > > font-family:Arial'>Ken in </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font > > size2 > > faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Austin</span></font></st1:pl= > > ace></st1:City><font > > size2 faceArial><span > > style'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, sitting on > > finished seats and making engine noises with my little boy. > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > </div> > > > > </body> > > > > </html> > > =00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 08:33:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Front shoulder harness
    From: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com> Ken Hannan wrote: Do you have pictures of the seat belts? ----------------------------- Chuck Gantzer wrote: I used the link that Ken sent, but the diagram is not very ledgible. William, a picture from you would also be very helpful. I am very interested in the Brit's method. I'm to the point of adding this harness, so as to give others the 'Pietenpol Experience'. ----------------------------- Ken and Chuck, I'll try to take pictures over this weekend. It will require some disassembly and the shop is currently full of Boredom Fighter project parts but I should be able to shift things around. I played with a bridge system something like the Brit's that was to be close to the Model-A radiator support but the eyeball-engineering department canceled the project. Bill




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