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     1. 12:11 AM - Titanium (Clif Dawson)
     2. 07:38 AM -  Re: shoulder harness (Ken Hannan)
     3. 08:33 AM - Front shoulder harness (Sayre, William G)
 
 
 
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
      
      
      Here's a couple of links for those interested in this stuff
      
      http://www.titaniumjoe.com/
      
      http://titanium.net/GIsec2b.htm
      
      
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's a couple of links for those interested in 
      this stuff</FONT></DIV>
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      href="http://www.titaniumjoe.com/">http://www.titaniumjoe.com/</A></FONT></DIV>
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
      
      Chris can you email a copy to me?
      
      Thanks
      
      Ken Hannan
      Temecula, CA
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <catdesign@intergate.com>
      Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Pietenpol-List: shoulder harness
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "" <catdesign@intergate.com>
      >
      > I have a copy of the British seat belt and harness installation
      > method. If anyone wants me to scan it and send them a copy just let me
      know.
      > It's about 6 pages long I think.  I cant do it until tomorrow (Friday)
      night
      > though.
      >
      > Chris
      > Sacramento, Ca.
      >
      >
      >  Quoting Ken Chambers <kchambers@winternals.com>:
      >
      > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers"
      > > <kchambers@winternals.com>
      > >
      > >
      > > The Brits have another way of doing the passenger shoulder harness, but
      > > it's not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly and reinforcements.
      > >
      > >
      > > One of the UK Aircamper members was kind enough to send a diagram, but I
      > > misplaced it a couple of moves ago. Let me know if you'd like to see it
      > > and I'll try again to find it, copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps
      > > if any of our English friends are reading they might send something to
      > > the list download page?
      > >
      > > I thought I would hook my passenger belts to the cabanes, but that's an
      > > interesting point about the wings wrenching around in a crash.
      > >
      > > Ken in Austin, sitting on finished seats and making engine noises with
      > > my little boy.
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      > > <p classMsoNormal><font size2 faceArial><span
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      > > font-family:Arial'>The Brits have another way of doing the passenger
      > > shoulder
      > > harness, but it’s not simple. It involves a welded steal assembly
      > > and
      > > reinforcements. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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      > > was kind enough to send a diagram, but I misplaced it a couple of moves
      > > ago.
      > > Let me know if you’d like to see it and I’ll try again to
      > > find it,
      > > copy it, and send it to you. Or perhaps if any of our English friends
      > > are
      > > reading they might send something to the list download page?
      > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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| Subject:  | Front shoulder harness | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Sayre, William G" <william.g.sayre@boeing.com>
      
      Ken Hannan wrote:
      Do you have pictures of the seat belts?
      -----------------------------
      Chuck Gantzer wrote:
      I used the link that Ken sent, but the diagram is not very ledgible.  
      William, a picture from you would also be very helpful.  
      I am very interested in the Brit's method.  I'm to the point of adding this harness,
      so as to give others the 'Pietenpol Experience'.
      -----------------------------
      Ken and Chuck,
      
      I'll try to take pictures over this weekend.  It will require some disassembly
      and the shop is currently full of Boredom Fighter project parts but I should be
      able to shift things around.
      
      I played with a bridge system something like the Brit's that was to be close to
      the Model-A radiator support but the eyeball-engineering department canceled
      the project.
      
      Bill
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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