---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/17/03: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:52 AM - Re: prop info (BARNSTMR@aol.com) 2. 10:08 AM - Re: prop info (Gary Gower) 3. 12:25 PM - Re: shoulder harness (catdesign@intergate.com) 4. 12:37 PM - Wooden split axle (Ken Chambers) 5. 03:09 PM - Re: Wooden split axle (Hubbard, Eugene) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:27 AM PST US From: BARNSTMR@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop info --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Chuck, Where can I get a copy of Cluton's book? Whats the name of the book? Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:35 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: prop info --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower No, The only Scimatar props I have read comments are with projects in France, I will like to give it a try soon, just need to read more about it to design it well, I dont want it to brake in flight... I did tried the Hess "almost constant speed propeller" method, in one propeler (number two) it worked fine, suposed to get 2" more of pitch in take off, so the climb and cruise range will be wider... In that plane I had no previous prop to compare, but was a very smooth ride and performed well, The engine was sold with the prop with only about 8 hours, I like this props. Carlos mi airplane partner, likes better the Cluton's method, so when the next prop is needed I think will be a Cluton, "less wood to cut off and works great, what we want?" He said once... We have lots of fun with our hobby, I hate to have to work for a living :-) :-) two more kids to go to College left... Saludos Gary Gower. --- Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > In a message dated 10/16/03 11:26:53 PM Central Daylight Time, > ggower_99@yahoo.com writes: > > << Since he passed away I carved my last two propellers, I always > wanted > to give it a try... > Is a great experience to build the plane, build the engine and > carve > the propeller... Well the 1/2 VW engine didnt had the power at our > 5,000 ft ASL grass strip, and was changed fo a Rotax 447, and of > course > another prop was carved... > By the way I used the Cluton's book. >> > > Gary, > I've also built three props using the Cluton's book. For a long > time, I've > been considering building a Scimitar prop, using the method described > in the > Eric Cluton's guidlines. Do you know anyone that built this Scimitar > prop ?? > > Chuck Gantzer > > > > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:11 PM PST US From: "catdesign@intergate.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: shoulder harness --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" Did you receive the seat belt plans I sent out? If not I will send them again. Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Quoting javier cruz : > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: javier cruz > > Hi Piet's > > I Chris..can you send me a copy too? > > Thanks in advance > > Javier Cruz} > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:56 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wooden split axle From: "Ken Chambers" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" There's been a real shortage of hair-brained ideas lately. And that leads to a shortage of righteous flaming. To increase messages in both categories, let me ask this: Would it be possible to make the Vs of the split-axle landing gear from laminated ash? Anyone have any specific information (pounds per square inch etc.) that would rule this out? Seems within the realm of possibility, since the Flybaby gets away with wooden landing gear without springs or bungees, but just big thick tires. Of course it's wire braced, but still... Ken in Austin, waiting to close on a house with a two-car workshop. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:25 PM PST US From: "Hubbard, Eugene" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wooden split axle --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" I can certainly believe that you could make the Vees from wood--the loads would be about the same as for the straight axle. The problem would be in the moments involved in attaching the stub axles to a wooden Vee. With a straight axle, it's not a problem, there's no bending moment transfered to the wood; everything is (almost) in compression. With the split axle, there will be a whole lot of torque, one way or another, when a wheel starts taking load. It is approximately balanced by the extension for the shock absorber strut, but will still be sensitive to bounces and side loads. Maybe a REALLY BIG gusset on the bottom of the Vee would work. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Ken Chambers [mailto:kchambers@winternals.com] Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wooden split axle --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" There's been a real shortage of hair-brained ideas lately. And that leads to a shortage of righteous flaming. To increase messages in both categories, let me ask this: Would it be possible to make the Vs of the split-axle landing gear from laminated ash? Anyone have any specific information (pounds per square inch etc.) that would rule this out? Seems within the realm of possibility, since the Flybaby gets away with wooden landing gear without springs or bungees, but just big thick tires. Of course it's wire braced, but still... Ken in Austin, waiting to close on a house with a two-car workshop.