Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/21/03


Total Messages Posted: 28



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:31 AM - Web Site Update (Ken Rickards)
     2. 07:09 AM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Gadd, Skip)
     3. 07:15 AM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     4. 07:15 AM - Spar question (Jack Textor)
     5. 08:02 AM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (John Dilatush)
     6. 08:15 AM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Gadd, Skip)
     7. 08:16 AM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     8. 08:32 AM - Re: Corvair Studs (DJ Vegh)
     9. 11:02 AM - Re: Wooden split axle (Ken Chambers)
    10. 11:10 AM - Re: Corvair Studs (Ken Rickards)
    11. 12:16 PM - center section fuel tank security (Douwe Blumberg)
    12. 12:51 PM - Instrument Repair (catdesign@intergate.com)
    13. 01:31 PM - Re: center section fuel tank security (w b evans)
    14. 01:35 PM - Re: center section fuel tank security (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
    15. 02:25 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (BARNSTMR@aol.com)
    16. 02:45 PM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (John Dilatush)
    17. 04:18 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (Gene Rambo)
    18. 04:18 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (Gene Rambo)
    19. 05:19 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (catdesign@intergate.com)
    20. 05:20 PM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Carl Loar)
    21. 05:23 PM - Re: Corvair Studs (Jim Ash)
    22. 05:44 PM - Re: Corvair Studs (DJ Vegh)
    23. 05:51 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (John Ford)
    24. 06:33 PM - Re: center section fuel tank security (Jack Phillips)
    25. 06:58 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (Michael Conkling)
    26. 08:00 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (Al Latham)
    27. 08:56 PM - Re: way,way off topic on flying (Ted Brousseau)
    28. 11:11 PM - Re: Instrument Repair (catdesign@intergate.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:31:17 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca>
    Subject: Web Site Update
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> If anyone is interested , I just updated my web site with some more engine pics. DJ, did you "Helicoil" any of your cylinder studs? If so, did you do them yourself of have a machine shop do them? Just wondering how difficult they are to do! Ken GN1 2992 Canada http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Engine.htm


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    Time: 07:09:25 AM PST US
    From: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
    Subject: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov> Walt, Roux: 50% butter, 50% flour. Zap the butter and mix in the flour. Helps make the gravy not lumpy. Skip Do not archive


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    Time: 07:15:37 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Do not archive Skip We NEVER use butter for roux. Bacon drippings are best, cooking oil next best. If you promise not to use butter I will send you my recipe. Corky Do not archive


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    Time: 07:15:52 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
    Subject: Spar question
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com> Slowly but surely getting started. I'm contemplating two spar designs. I've read the books, articles and archives, but would appreciate any group comments. Which design would be stronger? 1st - solid spruce, or, 2nd - built up I beam, utilizing spruce edged with 1 x spruce strips, both sides, top and bottom, glued and not nailed. Thanks! Jack Textor DSM


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    Time: 08:02:03 AM PST US
    From: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Isablcorky@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: way,way off topic on flying > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Corky, Post your recipes please on the list, almost married a southern gal many, many years ago, big moon on the bayou you know?. Don't miss her, but sure miss her cooking! John ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Do not archive > Walt > It's certainly gratifying to learn that our friends from the nawth are > beginning to learn something of the better things in life, especially something > better than meat and potatoes and rice pudding. During WW II I used to hop on the > mess Sgt as to why he never had any rice and gravy with that roast beef. He > would say that the master menu, made from the Pentagon, provided rice for > pudding only. Later when I became the Company commander things changed. > > Walt, I'm not a chef but I do have some fine La recipes. My mother was French > and she and her mother cooked for a family of 15. She could make the kitchen > smell great. I inherited the taste for good La cooking without those fine > recipes. > > What I think I'll do is scan a few and send them a few at a time. It takes > more than a recipe. You need patience and a concept as to what you want. I think > a gumbo would be a nice place to start and in so much as chicken is abundant > I would suggest you try a chicken gumbo. Real simple and gooooooooooood. > > I'm just before taking my bride out to the cafeteria to get some meat and > potatoes, but as soon as I return I'll send you some info. In the meantime try > looking up some info on how to make a roux > > Corky, the Cajun in La > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 08:15:07 AM PST US
    From: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
    Subject: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov> Corky, OK, I will follow the plans, er I mean Recipe, no butter. Thanks, Skip -- Do not archive >We NEVER use butter for roux. Bacon drippings are best, cooking oil next >best. If you promise not to use butter I will send you my recipe. >Corky Do not archive


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    Time: 08:16:17 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com Do not archive John, I'd be happy to send you some goodies but not on the list. For everyone who would like that I would get 10 who wouldn't so let's just keep the list to Piet stuff and all who would like those good old cajun recipes write me or Jim Cooper. His wife Edna I'll bet has a lot of them. She is from La but Isabelle is a former yankee. Corky


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    Time: 08:32:10 AM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Corvair Studs
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> Ken, I did not helicoil any studs... I did have 4 of them that did not meet the proper 10-35 ft. lb torque so I took them out and replaced them with .003" oversize studs. Clarks sells oversize studs in .003" and .006" Try the .003 first if you still cannot meet torque get the .006. They aren't cheap though...... about $12 a stud. I would avoid helicoiling. Only helicoil if the stud holes have really bad threads... if it's just one or two that need to be helicoiled then do it yourself.... any more than that and a machine shop would be my suggestion. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > > If anyone is interested , I just updated my web site with some more engine > pics. DJ, did you "Helicoil" any of your cylinder studs? If so, did you do > them yourself of have a machine shop do them? Just wondering how difficult > they are to do! > > Ken > > GN1 2992 > > Canada > > http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Engine.htm > >


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    Time: 11:02:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wooden split axle
    From: "Ken Chambers" <kchambers@winternals.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Chambers" <kchambers@winternals.com> You're right again Gene. I'm using a tailwheel, so I'll have to check the laminated spring for sideloads/torquing in addition to shock. Maybe I'll just repeatedly kick the heck out of it from the side.


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    Time: 11:10:11 AM PST US
    From: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca>
    Subject: Re: Corvair Studs
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> Thanks DJ. Once I get everything cleaned up, I'll give them a more detailed inspection. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Studs > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> > > Ken, > > I did not helicoil any studs... I did have 4 of them that did not meet the > proper 10-35 ft. lb torque so I took them out and replaced them with .003" > oversize studs. > > Clarks sells oversize studs in .003" and .006" Try the .003 first if you > still cannot meet torque get the .006. They aren't cheap though...... > about $12 a stud. > > I would avoid helicoiling. Only helicoil if the stud holes have really bad > threads... if it's just one or two that need to be helicoiled then do it > yourself.... any more than that and a machine shop would be my suggestion. > > DJ Vegh > N74DV > Mesa, AZ > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > - > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" > <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > > > > If anyone is interested , I just updated my web site with some more engine > > pics. DJ, did you "Helicoil" any of your cylinder studs? If so, did you > do > > them yourself of have a machine shop do them? Just wondering how difficult > > they are to do! > > > > Ken > > > > GN1 2992 > > > > Canada > > > > http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Engine.htm > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:16:07 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: center section fuel tank security
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> When securing the tank in the center section with straps over the top, I've become concerned with the fact that nothing is holding the tank from falling out the bottom except the wood structure. The plans call for tabs on the tank which is frowned upon how because of fatigue cracks. Any thoughts out there on the strength of that wood structure or should I figure out a strap system that completely encloses the tank top and bottom? Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net


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    Time: 12:51:52 PM PST US
    From: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com>
    Subject: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> I recently acquired and old nonworking Tycos altimeter. On the face, it says Aviation Section Signal Corps US Army, Type C No. 9330. Does anyone know who I can contact to see if it can be restored to working condition? It would look mighty nice in my Piet Thanks Chris T. Sacramento, Ca -------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 01:31:15 PM PST US
    From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: center section fuel tank security
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> Douwe, Check the prints, there are wood strips fore and aft that the tank sits on. I added felt strips also. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section fuel tank security > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> > > When securing the tank in the center section with straps over the top, I've become concerned with the fact that nothing is holding the tank from falling out the bottom except the wood structure. The plans call for tabs on the tank which is frowned upon how because of fatigue cracks. Any thoughts out there on the strength of that wood structure or should I figure out a strap system that completely encloses the tank top and bottom? > > Douwe > douweblumberg@earthlink.net > >


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    Time: 01:35:47 PM PST US
    From: Waytogopiet@aol.com
    Subject: Re: center section fuel tank security
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com Douwe I made a full-width flanges front and rear (integral with the tank) to sit on the spars. Gave some thought to the possibility of fatigue and decided that it would be minimized by spreading the load across the full width of the tank. It is certainly an area that will get ongoing attention. Also added full width stiffeners 1/8th " X 1" with T-88 at the front and rear junction between the plwood and the spar bottom. Don Hicks


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    Time: 02:25:41 PM PST US
    From: BARNSTMR@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com Chris, All I know is....don't plan on doing it yourself unless you have a good manual on it, a 10X magnifying glass, and some micro-surgical tools. After I sucessfully tinkered with some other instruments, I decided to pull apart my inoperative sensitive altimeter (AN 5760-4B) to see if I could find what was rattling around inside. The thing was assembled like a swiss watch inside.... umpteen little tiny gears on very close tolerance spindles. I found the loose parts and managed to get them replaced in their intended location. But I had not one clue how all the gears were supposed to be syncronized. The whole thing was an engineering marvel. If you find someplace to repair yours, please let me know. Terry L. Bowden ph 254-715-4773 fax 254-853-3805


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    Time: 02:45:13 PM PST US
    From: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net>
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Dilatush" <dilatush@amigo.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Isablcorky@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: way,way off topic on flying > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Corky, Thanks for your reply, I understand your reasoning. Could you send them to me off list? I'll try and reciprocate with a couple of my own if you would like. dilatush@amigo.net John +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Do not archive > > John, > > I'd be happy to send you some goodies but not on the list. For everyone who > would like that I would get 10 who wouldn't so let's just keep the list to Piet > stuff and all who would like those good old cajun recipes write me or Jim > Cooper. His wife Edna I'll bet has a lot of them. She is from La but Isabelle is > a former yankee. > > Corky > >


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    Time: 04:18:05 PM PST US
    From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> AWWWWW you don't want THAT old thing . . . send it to me! Gene (send it to Keystone Instrument in PA for restoration if you must) ----- Original Message ----- From: <catdesign@intergate.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> > > I recently acquired and old nonworking Tycos altimeter. On the face, it says > Aviation Section Signal Corps US Army, Type C No. 9330. Does anyone know who I > can contact to see if it can be restored to working condition? It would look > mighty nice in my Piet > > Thanks > > > Chris T. > Sacramento, Ca > > ------------------------------------------------- > >


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    Time: 04:18:38 PM PST US
    From: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> NO NO NO NO NO, do not attempt to repair yourself, especially the old 4" instruments! Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: <BARNSTMR@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > Chris, > All I know is....don't plan on doing it yourself unless you have a good manual on it, a 10X magnifying glass, and some micro-surgical tools. After I sucessfully tinkered with some other instruments, I decided to pull apart my inoperative sensitive altimeter (AN 5760-4B) to see if I could find what was rattling around inside. The thing was assembled like a swiss watch inside.... umpteen little tiny gears on very close tolerance spindles. I found the loose parts and managed to get them replaced in their intended location. But I had not one clue how all the gears were supposed to be syncronized. The whole thing was an engineering marvel. If you find someplace to repair yours, please let me know. > Terry L. Bowden > ph 254-715-4773 > fax 254-853-3805 > >


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    Time: 05:19:59 PM PST US
    From: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> Gene, It's taking all the self control I have to not start taking out some screws. How about just one pleassseeeeeeesssseee................. Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Do not archive Quoting Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com>: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > NO NO NO NO NO, do not attempt to repair yourself, especially the old 4" > instruments! > > Gene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BARNSTMR@aol.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > > > Chris, > > All I know is....don't plan on doing it yourself unless you have a good > manual on it, a 10X magnifying glass, and some micro-surgical tools. After > I sucessfully tinkered with some other instruments, I decided to pull apart > my inoperative sensitive altimeter (AN 5760-4B) to see if I could find what > was rattling around inside. The thing was assembled like a swiss watch > inside.... umpteen little tiny gears on very close tolerance spindles. I > found the loose parts and managed to get them replaced in their intended > location. But I had not one clue how all the gears were supposed to be > syncronized. The whole thing was an engineering marvel. If you find > someplace to repair yours, please let me know. > > Terry L. Bowden > > ph 254-715-4773 > > fax 254-853-3805 > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 05:20:58 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Loar" <skycarl@buckeye-express.com>
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Loar" <skycarl@buckeye-express.com> Corky,,, Got it! Yahoo,,,, thanks so much. Sounds like a great fun weekend project. I will be patient cooking as I know the result will be wonderful. I'd llike to give the shrimp,, crawdad recipe a try. If I could find a recipe for those zebra mussels we have in Lake Erie, I could start my own resturant or get a PBS television show. Thanks again, Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: <Isablcorky@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: way,way off topic on flying > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com > > Do not archive > > Skip > > We NEVER use butter for roux. Bacon drippings are best, cooking oil next > best. If you promise not to use butter I will send you my recipe. > > Corky > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 05:23:18 PM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Corvair Studs
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> I've helicoiled studs (and plug sockets) in Corvair motors. They worked fine. The only caution I would offer is to examine the length of the helicoil inserts you're using vs the thread length of the original stud. If need be, use two and stack them. I had to repair one motor because a previous owner helicoiled a stud using only one and it pulled out. Not a fun day. Jim Ash At 10/21/2003 02:10 PM -0500, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > >Thanks DJ. Once I get everything cleaned up, I'll give them a more detailed >inspection. > >Ken > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Studs > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> > > > > Ken, > > > > I did not helicoil any studs... I did have 4 of them that did not meet the > > proper 10-35 ft. lb torque so I took them out and replaced them with .003" > > oversize studs. > > > > Clarks sells oversize studs in .003" and .006" Try the .003 first if you > > still cannot meet torque get the .006. They aren't cheap though...... > > about $12 a stud. > > > > I would avoid helicoiling. Only helicoil if the stud holes have really >bad > > threads... if it's just one or two that need to be helicoiled then do it > > yourself.... any more than that and a machine shop would be my suggestion. > > > > DJ Vegh > > N74DV > > Mesa, AZ > > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > > > > > - > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Rickards" <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Web Site Update > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Rickards" > > <pietbuilder@cogeco.ca> > > > > > > If anyone is interested , I just updated my web site with some more >engine > > > pics. DJ, did you "Helicoil" any of your cylinder studs? If so, did >you > > do > > > them yourself of have a machine shop do them? Just wondering how >difficult > > > they are to do! > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > GN1 2992 > > > > > > Canada > > > > > > http://home.cogeco.ca/~pietbuilder/Engine.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:44:59 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Corvair Studs
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <aircamper@imagedv.com> I just want to make it clear that I'm not saying heli-coils will not work.... I was saying that a .003 or .006 oversize stud is MUCH easier in most circumstances. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ash" <ashcan@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Studs > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> > > I've helicoiled studs (and plug sockets) in Corvair motors. They worked fine.


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    Time: 05:51:25 PM PST US
    From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu> You are a cruel man... John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> catdesign@intergate.com Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:20:21 PM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> Gene, It's taking all the self control I have to not start taking out some screws. How about just one pleassseeeeeeesssseee................. Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Do not archive Quoting Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com>: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > NO NO NO NO NO, do not attempt to repair yourself, especially the old 4" > instruments! > > Gene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BARNSTMR@aol.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: BARNSTMR@aol.com > > > > Chris, > > All I know is....don't plan on doing it yourself unless you have a good > manual on it, a 10X magnifying glass, and some micro-surgical tools. After > I sucessfully tinkered with some other instruments, I decided to pull apart > my inoperative sensitive altimeter (AN 5760-4B) to see if I could find what > was rattling around inside. The thing was assembled like a swiss watch > inside.... umpteen little tiny gears on very close tolerance spindles. I > found the loose parts and managed to get them replaced in their intended > location. But I had not one clue how all the gears were supposed to be > syncronized. The whole thing was an engineering marvel. If you find > someplace to repair yours, please let me know. > > Terry L. Bowden > > ph 254-715-4773 > > fax 254-853-3805 > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 06:33:27 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: center section fuel tank security
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net> Douwe, I had the same concerns and devised a strap system to support the tank and keep the weight off the plywood. My tank holds 15 gallons, which is 90 lbs. at 1 G. At the 4 G's or so the wing is good for, that would be 360 lbs, which seems a lot to ask of a sheet of thin plywood. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg Subject: Pietenpol-List: center section fuel tank security --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> When securing the tank in the center section with straps over the top, I've become concerned with the fact that nothing is holding the tank from falling out the bottom except the wood structure. The plans call for tabs on the tank which is frowned upon how because of fatigue cracks. Any thoughts out there on the strength of that wood structure or should I figure out a strap system that completely encloses the tank top and bottom? Douwe douweblumberg@earthlink.net


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    Time: 06:58:42 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> Hey Chris, Guess you could do a whiskey compass overhaul if you feel the need to remove screws from an old instrument! ;-) -- no gears to worry about! Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS (making (1) good Airpath compass out of 2 "dead" ones over my next lunch hour (or 2! ;-) do not archive


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    Time: 08:00:39 PM PST US
    From: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net> Chris, Sounds like the beginnings of making a non-working altimeter into a non-working JUNK altimeter. Even though Gene and I have disagreed on some things over the past 20 years I have to side with him on this one. Keystone is probably the only people that will even attempt to help you on that one. I'd say screw Gene and send it to me but after a last minute shopping spree last week in the "special drawer" he has at the house I don't need any old instruments now. Just hope I can get them mounted before he takes inventory. Do not archive. Al Latham On the lamb in MO. ----- Original Message ----- From: <catdesign@intergate.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> > > Gene, It's taking all the self control I have to not start taking out some > screws. How about just one pleassseeeeeeesssseee................. > > > Chris T. > Sacramento, Ca > Do not archive > > Quoting Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com>: > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > > > NO NO NO NO NO, do not attempt to repair yourself, especially the old 4" > > instruments! > > > > Gene


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    Time: 08:56:56 PM PST US
    From: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net>
    Subject: Re: way,way off topic on flying
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ted Brousseau" <nfn00979@naples.net> Corky, My mouth is watering. Send recipes quickly, please. Thanks Ted Brousseau Naples, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <Isablcorky@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: way,way off topic on flying > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com > > Do not archive > > John, > > I'd be happy to send you some goodies but not on the list. For everyone who > would like that I would get 10 who wouldn't so let's just keep the list to Piet > stuff and all who would like those good old cajun recipes write me or Jim > Cooper. His wife Edna I'll bet has a lot of them. She is from La but Isabelle is > a former yankee. > > Corky > >


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    Time: 11:11:49 PM PST US
    From: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com>
    Subject: Re: Instrument Repair
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com> No, I wont be taking it apart, but it's killing me not to know why it isn't working. I know it's a somewhat rare object and I can't believe I was fortunate enough to end up with it. So I will be shopping around to see how much it will cost to repair and go from there. Hopefully I can afford to keep it. Chris T. Sacramento, Ca Quoting Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net>: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net> > > Chris, > > Sounds like the beginnings of making a non-working altimeter into a > non-working JUNK altimeter. > Even though Gene and I have disagreed on some things over the past 20 years > I have to side with > him on this one. Keystone is probably the only people that will even attempt > to help you on that one. > > I'd say screw Gene and send it to me but after a last minute shopping spree > last week in the "special > drawer" he has at the house I don't need any old instruments now. Just hope > I can get them mounted > before he takes inventory. > > Do not archive. > > Al Latham > On the lamb in MO. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <catdesign@intergate.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Instrument Repair > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" > <catdesign@intergate.com> > > > > Gene, It's taking all the self control I have to not start taking out some > > screws. How about just one pleassseeeeeeesssseee................. > > > > > > Chris T. > > Sacramento, Ca > > Do not archive > > > > Quoting Gene Rambo <rambog@erols.com>: > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene Rambo" <rambog@erols.com> > > > > > > NO NO NO NO NO, do not attempt to repair yourself, especially the old 4" > > > instruments! > > > > > > Gene > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------




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