---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/27/03: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (Kip & Beth Gardner) 2. 06:07 AM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (John Ford) 3. 06:36 AM - toilet paper drop (Robert Haines) 4. 08:14 AM - Re: toilet paper drop (John Ford) 5. 09:11 AM - Re: toilet paper drop (Jim Vydra) 6. 10:24 AM - Re: retirement site (Gadd, Skip) 7. 10:40 AM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (w b evans) 8. 10:47 AM - Re: toilet paper drop (Al Latham) 9. 01:05 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture (DJ Vegh) 10. 01:09 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture2 (DJ Vegh) 11. 04:46 PM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (Dave and Connie) 12. 04:55 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture (dave rowe) 13. 05:01 PM - Re: Magneto direction (Christian Bobka) 14. 05:19 PM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (dave rowe) 15. 05:40 PM - Re: Re: PAL nuts (Christian Bobka) 16. 06:44 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture (Jack Phillips) 17. 09:00 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture (dave rowe) 18. 09:40 PM - Re: toilet paper drop - picture (Jim Ash) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:55 AM PST US From: Kip & Beth Gardner Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner At 1:38 AM -0500 10/27/03, Clif Dawson wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson > >Marine term. All boats and ships were first drawn out full size on the floor >of >the attic, or loft, of the building shed. Any discrepancies in the plans >would be >corrected and the full size parts would then be accurate. Just like when you >lay >out the full size drawings for fuse. sides, rudder, stab, etc on your >building table. > >Between the devil and the deep blue sea, four sheets to the wind, road, >knots, >son of a gun, hard up, fly by night, aloof, spic and span, etc., etc. All >from sailing >and wooden boats. Hundreds more! > >Clif > >> >I'll bite. What specifically do you mean by lofting? >> > >> >Jim Ash You beat me to it Clif; good explanation. The process of correcting mistakes in the lofted patterns is known as 'fairing', i.e. to make the lines of the boat look 'fair' (as in fair maiden - in distress of course) . ARRRRGH! Kip Gardner (who traded a Navy town & a seafare-in' career for the wilds of inland Ohio) North Canton, OH ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:10 AM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" Would that be a patch-over-one-eye, golden earring wearing *pirate* ARRRRGH? We are talking more and more about, Arrrrr, ship building, arrrrr shiver me spars, er, timbers... Wasn't national "Talk Like a Pirate" day a month or so ago? John *Arrrrrgh!* Greybeard do not archive John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> kipandbeth@earthlink.net Monday, October 27, 2003 8:22:24 AM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner You beat me to it Clif; good explanation. The process of correcting mistakes in the lofted patterns is known as 'fairing', i.e. to make the lines of the boat look 'fair' (as in fair maiden - in distress of course) . ARRRRGH! Kip Gardner (who traded a Navy town & a seafare-in' career for the wilds of inland Ohio) North Canton, OH ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:43 AM PST US From: "Robert Haines" Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) Robert Haines Du Quoin, Illinois ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:09 AM PST US From: "John Ford" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" Is this where the phrase, "The s**t hits the fan" originated? Or do you use a fresh roll... ;-) John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> robertsjunk@hotmail.com Monday, October 27, 2003 9:33:30 AM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) Robert Haines Du Quoin, Illinois ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:23 AM PST US From: Jim Vydra Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Vydra hmmmm....I thought toilet paper is always aimed at the tail Robert Haines wrote:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) Robert Haines Du Quoin, Illinois ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:07 AM PST US From: "Gadd, Skip" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: retirement site --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" Thanks Gary, I am looking forward to building the hanger than the house, more time off Piet building, but will be real different than working this desk. I think the winter climate is about the same as Dayton OH, that means it is about one notch milder than the description Kip gave for northern Ohio. This is about the only flat place in West Virginia, and so does not get the same snow as the mountains. Skip >Congratulations for your new home. >Just curious, how is winter climate there? Lots of Snow? >Saludos >Gary Gower. >Do not archive. - ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:31 AM PST US From: "w b evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" Cliff, Very interesting! Can you explain each? walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson > > Marine term. All boats and ships were first drawn out full size on the floor > of > the attic, or loft, of the building shed. Any discrepancies in the plans > would be > corrected and the full size parts would then be accurate. Just like when you > lay > out the full size drawings for fuse. sides, rudder, stab, etc on your > building table. > > Between the devil and the deep blue sea, four sheets to the wind, road, > knots, > son of a gun, hard up, fly by night, aloof, spic and span, etc., etc. All > from sailing > and wooden boats. Hundreds more! > > Clif > > > >I'll bite. What specifically do you mean by lofting? > > > > > >Jim Ash > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:48 AM PST US From: "Al Latham" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" Robert, While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a problem. If memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this certainly is not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and not the GND. Just remember to use single ply if your worried... Do not archive Al Latham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Haines" Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > Robert Haines > Du Quoin, Illinois ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:54 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" I did the TP drop in a 152 last year. A friend and I got bored one morning and thought we'd bring up some stuff to drop..... brought along a few rolls of TP, a gallon jug of water and a few sugar bags. Climbed up to about 8,000 and dropped the TP roll..... did a steep descending bank and lined up for the kill...... whack! direct hit with the right wing. here's a pic just seconds before impact http://imagedv.com/aircamper/tp.drop.jpg after the TP we dropped the other goods..... the sugar bags exploded on impact in a cloud of sugar. The water jug was a dud... the cap opened on the way down and the water spilled out. BTW, we out over the open desert when we did this. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Latham Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" Robert, While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a problem. If memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this certainly is not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and not the GND. Just remember to use single ply if your worried... Do not archive Al Latham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Haines" Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > Robert Haines > Du Quoin, Illinois = This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit . ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:59 PM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture2 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" found another shot we took that morning..... this taken just a few seconds before "launch" we were prepping the roll for an easy "tear-free" release. www.imagedv.com/aircamper/ready-tp.jpg DJ _ = This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit . ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:23 PM PST US From: Dave and Connie Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie John, Have you ever met Kip? I could see the gold earring and the eye patch without a problem. Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65 At 09:02 AM 10/27/2003, John Ford wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" > >Would that be a patch-over-one-eye, golden earring wearing *pirate* >ARRRRGH? We are talking more and more about, Arrrrr, ship building, >arrrrr shiver me spars, er, timbers... Wasn't national "Talk Like a >Pirate" day a month or so ago? >John *Arrrrrgh!* Greybeard >do not archive > >John Ford >john@indstate.edu >812-237-8542 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:06 PM PST US From: dave rowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe Very cool. We got into a war with two American ships in the Persian Gulf in 2000, started with drive-by fruitings via surgical tube slingshots, and quickly escalated to our helos dropping TP down the other ships' funnels. Ended when one Seahawk tried a sack of flour, whent straight down a funnel and exploded. We then chose a much safer way to have fun, we started hoisting down to unmanned oil rigs and plastering them with Canadian insignia. Last one I went down to however wasn't unmanned. Those Iranians have no sense of ha-ha. DJ Vegh wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > I did the TP drop in a 152 last year. A friend and I got bored one morning and thought we'd bring up some stuff to drop..... brought along a few rolls of TP, a gallon jug of water and a few sugar bags. > > Climbed up to about 8,000 and dropped the TP roll..... did a steep descending bank and lined up for the kill...... whack! direct hit with the right wing. > > here's a pic just seconds before impact > > http://imagedv.com/aircamper/tp.drop.jpg > > after the TP we dropped the other goods..... the sugar bags exploded on impact in a cloud of sugar. The water jug was a dud... the cap opened on the way down and the water spilled out. > > BTW, we out over the open desert when we did this. > > DJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Al Latham > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > > Robert, > > While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a > problem. If > memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this > certainly is > not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and > not the > GND. > Just remember to use single ply if your worried... > Do not archive > Al Latham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Haines" > To: > Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > > > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that > I'm > > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where > the > > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > > > > Robert Haines > > Du Quoin, Illinois > > > This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit . > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:28 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magneto direction --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" I assume you have a mag off of a -12. If the mag has an impulse coupling, then the impulse coupling will need to be changed for one with right hand rotation for a -8 . The -12 uses left hand rotation. Otherwise, most, if not all mags can be changed internally to rotate the other way. Chris Bobka ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Magneto direction > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Wizzard187@aol.com > > Pieteres, I know that cont. A engines drive the magneto off the crankshaft > gear and cont 85-12s drive off the camshaft gear in the other direction. My > question is: can a magneto be changed to fit what I need? > Ken Conrad In Long Grove Iowa with my beans in the bin and the best > corn I've ever had. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:16 PM PST US From: dave rowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe Also aircraft, my dad was the chief loftsman for AVRO, did the full size patterns etc for the ARROW, CF-100, Avrocar, and Jetliner! I never did understand why he taught me all that stuff, until we built a sailboat together. I sometimes think he knew what skills I would need once I was older, all that model airplane building, etc sure helps. Ease up on the Navy lingo will ya? I'm an Airforce dude that has to live with the Fisheads and fly helos off their boats. I mean ships. Glad you didn't metion words like dobie dust and duff! Fair winds and following seas. . . Clif Dawson wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson > > Marine term. All boats and ships were first drawn out full size on the floor > of > the attic, or loft, of the building shed. Any discrepancies in the plans > would be > corrected and the full size parts would then be accurate. Just like when you > lay > out the full size drawings for fuse. sides, rudder, stab, etc on your > building table. > > Between the devil and the deep blue sea, four sheets to the wind, road, > knots, > son of a gun, hard up, fly by night, aloof, spic and span, etc., etc. All > from sailing > and wooden boats. Hundreds more! > > Clif > > > >I'll bite. What specifically do you mean by lofting? > > > > > >Jim Ash > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:58 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: PAL nuts --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" A friend of mine had a cylinder on his C-85 loosen up in flight. By the time he got on the ground the cylinder was mangled and so was the case. NO PAL Nuts. Go figure. You safety EVERYTHING on an airplane EXCEPT the bolts that hold the engine together. Does this make any sense? When my buddy that trashed his engine has a visitor at his strip, he will poke his head into the cowl to see if it has pal nuts. If the visitor does not, he gives the visitor a small bag with the requesite pal nuts to take with him and install at his leisure. Use the Pal Nuts, despite what the experts say.... They are in the business of selling engines... chris bobka A&P IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Lawler" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: PAL nuts > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Craig Lawler > > Bert, > > A friend of mine that just finished up his A&P at Penn Tech in > Williamsport said the PAL nuts are not required. I have a bunch of them > so I put them on. Got a whole coffee can full. If you want some let me > know and I'll mail them to you. > > Craig > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:17 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" I used to drop watermelons in my J-3 Cub when I was a kid. A twenty pound watermelon makes a pretty impressive hit from 500 feet - throws a plume of mud and spray about 30' in the air and digs a crater 6' in diameter and about a foot deep and fills it with mud. Nothing left of the melon. I got to be a pretty good shot and could generally hit a car sized target from 500'. Useless skill, but a lot of fun. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" I did the TP drop in a 152 last year. A friend and I got bored one morning and thought we'd bring up some stuff to drop..... brought along a few rolls of TP, a gallon jug of water and a few sugar bags. Climbed up to about 8,000 and dropped the TP roll..... did a steep descending bank and lined up for the kill...... whack! direct hit with the right wing. here's a pic just seconds before impact http://imagedv.com/aircamper/tp.drop.jpg after the TP we dropped the other goods..... the sugar bags exploded on impact in a cloud of sugar. The water jug was a dud... the cap opened on the way down and the water spilled out. BTW, we out over the open desert when we did this. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Latham Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" Robert, While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a problem. If memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this certainly is not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and not the GND. Just remember to use single ply if your worried... Do not archive Al Latham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Haines" Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that I'm > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where the > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > Robert Haines > Du Quoin, Illinois = This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit . ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:33 PM PST US From: dave rowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe Exactly why you don't piss off Pietenpol flyers!!!!! Jack Phillips wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" > > I used to drop watermelons in my J-3 Cub when I was a kid. A twenty pound > watermelon makes a pretty impressive hit from 500 feet - throws a plume of > mud and spray about 30' in the air and digs a crater 6' in diameter and > about a foot deep and fills it with mud. Nothing left of the melon. I got > to be a pretty good shot and could generally hit a car sized target from > 500'. > > Useless skill, but a lot of fun. > > Jack Phillips > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:01 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > > I did the TP drop in a 152 last year. A friend and I got bored one morning > and thought we'd bring up some stuff to drop..... brought along a few rolls > of TP, a gallon jug of water and a few sugar bags. > > Climbed up to about 8,000 and dropped the TP roll..... did a steep > descending bank and lined up for the kill...... whack! direct hit with the > right wing. > > here's a pic just seconds before impact > > http://imagedv.com/aircamper/tp.drop.jpg > > after the TP we dropped the other goods..... the sugar bags exploded on > impact in a cloud of sugar. The water jug was a dud... the cap opened on > the way down and the water spilled out. > > BTW, we out over the open desert when we did this. > > DJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Al Latham > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > > Robert, > > While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a > problem. If > memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this > certainly is > not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and > not the > GND. > Just remember to use single ply if your worried... > Do not archive > Al Latham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Haines" > To: > Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > > > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that > I'm > > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where > the > > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > > > > Robert Haines > > Du Quoin, Illinois > > > This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by > Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more > information on an anti-virus email solution, visit > . > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:35 PM PST US From: Jim Ash Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash It's useless only if you have no imagination or sense of adventure. Jim Ash At 10/27/2003 09:39 PM -0500, you wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack Phillips" > >I used to drop watermelons in my J-3 Cub when I was a kid. A twenty pound >watermelon makes a pretty impressive hit from 500 feet - throws a plume of >mud and spray about 30' in the air and digs a crater 6' in diameter and >about a foot deep and fills it with mud. Nothing left of the melon. I got >to be a pretty good shot and could generally hit a car sized target from >500'. > >Useless skill, but a lot of fun. > >Jack Phillips > > -----Original Message----- >From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:01 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop - picture > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" > >I did the TP drop in a 152 last year. A friend and I got bored one morning >and thought we'd bring up some stuff to drop..... brought along a few rolls >of TP, a gallon jug of water and a few sugar bags. > >Climbed up to about 8,000 and dropped the TP roll..... did a steep >descending bank and lined up for the kill...... whack! direct hit with the >right wing. > >here's a pic just seconds before impact > >http://imagedv.com/aircamper/tp.drop.jpg > >after the TP we dropped the other goods..... the sugar bags exploded on >impact in a cloud of sugar. The water jug was a dud... the cap opened on >the way down and the water spilled out. > >BTW, we out over the open desert when we did this. > >DJ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Al Latham >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > >Robert, > >While watching this being done many times I have never seen it cause a >problem. If >memory serves me correctly I do recall one person hitting the roll, but this >certainly is >not the desired result. My biggest concern is someone watching the TP and >not the >GND. >Just remember to use single ply if your worried... >Do not archive >Al Latham > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Haines" >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: toilet paper drop > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" > > > > > Call me chicken but isn't there a risk of the toilet paper mucking up > > something on the plane when thrown out or when flown through? (Not that >I'm > > trying to be a little nag, I've just seen too many old war movies where >the > > parachute gets caught in the tail.) Do you have to throw it clear of the > > tail... or to heck with it 'cause it's to week to hang on if it does get > > caught. Also, when you hit it with a prop, what's the odds of it getting > > into the cowling and causing other problems? (OK, now I am being a nag.) > > > > > > Robert Haines > > Du Quoin, Illinois > > >>This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by >Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more >information on an anti-virus email solution, visit >. > >