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1. 04:59 AM - Re: smoldering over Lake Erie (Ed Smith)
2. 05:06 AM - toilet paper breaks---crepe paper sometimes does not (Michael D Cuy)
3. 05:16 AM - Re: toilet paper breaks---crepe paper (John Ford)
4. 05:18 AM - Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? (Kip & Beth Gardner)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: toilet paper breaks---crepe paper sometimes does not (Carbarvo@aol.com)
6. 11:17 AM - cork floats (Jeff Hill)
7. 12:33 PM - Wire Wheel Hubs (Barry Davis)
8. 02:15 PM - wood finish (Ken Hannan)
9. 02:36 PM - Re: wood finish (Jim Markle)
10. 04:12 PM - Re: Wire Wheel Hubs (dave rowe)
11. 04:12 PM - Re: cork floats (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
12. 06:31 PM - Re: cork floats (Rcaprd@aol.com)
13. 06:54 PM - Re: cork floats (Jim Markle)
14. 09:03 PM - Re: cork floats (Rcaprd@aol.com)
15. 09:49 PM - Re: smoldering over Lake Erie (Gary Gower)
16. 11:15 PM - fuselage (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | smoldering over Lake Erie |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Smith" <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com>
Bad move - it
> packed TP into the cooling shrouds and the cleaner and made the flight a
> whole lot more exciting than I wanted it to be. After that, I stuck to
> dropping watermelons.
>
> Jack
>
But wouldn't hitting a watermelon tend to crush the spinner? :-)
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Subject: | toilet paper breaks---crepe paper sometimes does not |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Gene-----I've never seen any toilet paper that could hold up to a wing and
fold over. Think you were crossing the two ideas I was telling about w/
the crepe paper which does stretch nicely over the wing if you don't hit it
too fast. Then you have this nice streamer trailing off your wing. Too
close though to the prop and it won't survive the propwash area. If you
find some toilet paper that won't break on a wing, don't wipe yourself with
it because it's most likely 40 grit or better:)))
Mike C.
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sometimes does not
Subject: | Re: toilet paper breaks---crepe paper |
sometimes does not
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
I feel more and more fortunate to be living in "modern times" every
single day. It scares the hell out of me to think of what a Sears
catalog would do to a wing... ;-)
John Ford
john@indstate.edu
812-237-8542
>>> Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:06:44 AM
>>>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Gene-----I've never seen any toilet paper that could hold up to a wing
and
fold over. Think you were crossing the two ideas I was telling about
w/
the crepe paper which does stretch nicely over the wing if you don't
hit it
too fast. Then you have this nice streamer trailing off your wing.
Too
close though to the prop and it won't survive the propwash area. If
you
find some toilet paper that won't break on a wing, don't wipe yourself
with
it because it's most likely 40 grit or better:)))
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Rib Full Size Pattern ???? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Clif,
Right-O me hearty!
Even St. Bernard referred to this beastie as a 'ship', so what's the
problem? I guess with all these comments, I'll have to put Jolly Roger
emblem on the side of mine!
John, yes, I remember you from my ride in Ken Perkin's beautiful Piet at
Brodhead. I hope that your 'hop' was fun too.
As I've said, I traded in my eye patch & gold earring when I moved to Ohio,
but when somebody torques me off, I still have the option of whackin' 'em a
good one with my wooden leg.
Shorten the mains'l and prepare to come about, there's a lubber off the
port bow!
ARRRG!
Kip Gardner
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
At 1:14 AM -0500 10/29/03, Clif Dawson wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
>
>I don't know about you but I'M building a ship of the air!
>complete with sails!
>
>Clif Har! Time to splice the mainbrace methinks!
>
>do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave and Connie" <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>; <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Full Size Pattern ????
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie
><dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Have you ever met Kip? I could see the gold earring and the eye patch
>> without a problem.
>>
>> Dave
>> N36078 '41 BC-12-65
>>
>> At 09:02 AM 10/27/2003, John Ford wrote:
>>
>> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
>> >
>> >Would that be a patch-over-one-eye, golden earring wearing *pirate*
>> >ARRRRGH? We are talking more and more about, Arrrrr, ship building,
>> >arrrrr shiver me spars, er, timbers... Wasn't national "Talk Like a
>> >Pirate" day a month or so ago?
>> >John *Arrrrrgh!* Greybeard
>> >do not archive
>> >
>> >John Ford
>> >john@indstate.edu
>> >812-237-8542
>>
>>
>
>
North Canton, OH
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Subject: | Re: toilet paper breaks---crepe paper sometimes does not |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com
Sounds like GI issue....CV
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Hill" <jeff2dogs@hotmail.com>
Shellac may be fine for coating cork that floats in avgas but do not use it
for auto gas. I have a 1926 Disappearing Propellor Boat (from Canada) that
uses a Kingston carb. Originally, the cork carb floats were coated with
shellac which worked fine. Today's gas has many additives including some
that dissolve the shellac. Then the float sinks and gas pours in through the
needle and seat and overflows over the bowl and collects in the bilge. By
this time the engine has stopped so you have to take apart your carb and put
in a new cork float (if you have one). This all happens during a raging sea
on Georgian Bay.
The lesson is to coat your float with a thin layer of epoxy that is
impervious to the additives (toxins) in today's auto gas. Never had a
problem since.
Jeff in beautiful clear warm TX where I've just cut out the ailerons from
the wing.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
4130 wire wheel hubs. I know I.ve seen the plans several times, but just now when
I need them, I can't remember what they are printed in. Are they on the net
any place? Or are they in a newsletter? Dang, this getting older just ain't as
good as they say it is.
Barry
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
Group: All of the wood work on my Pietenpol almost completed and it is time to
put on a clear finish, what clear are you guys using?
Thanks,
Ken Hannan
Temecula, CA
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I had the same question recently.
I went to the Archive Search Engine (the link's at the bottom of these email messages)
and did a search on "varnish & covering" and found a wealth of information.
Pretty amazing really how much is there....
Give that a try.
Jim in Plano
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Hannan <isp.inc@verizon.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wood finish
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ken Hannan" <isp.inc@verizon.net>
Group: All of the wood work on my Pietenpol almost completed and it is time to
put on a clear finish, what clear are you guys using?
Thanks,
Ken Hannan
Temecula, CA
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Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel Hubs |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
I'm interested in any info on wire wheels as well, haven't gone through
the archives yet, but I will, I promise. Any assitance greatly
appreciated
Barry Davis wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
>
> 4130 wire wheel hubs. I know I.ve seen the plans several times, but just now
when I need them, I can't remember what they are printed in. Are they on the net
any place? Or are they in a newsletter? Dang, this getting older just ain't
as good as they say it is.
> Barry
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com
In a message dated 10/29/2003 1:18:52 PM Central Standard Time,
jeff2dogs@hotmail.com writes:
The lesson is to coat your float with a thin layer of epoxy that is
impervious to the additives (toxins) in today's auto gas. Never had a
problem since.
I have had a bottle cork that I coated with t-88 floating in a jar with auto
gas for over six months. Look at it periodically and have found no
deterioration to date. And the cork is still showing the same displacement. For
what it's
worth Don Hicks
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 10/29/03 1:18:53 PM Central Standard Time,
jeff2dogs@hotmail.com writes:
<< The lesson is to coat your float with a thin layer of epoxy that is
impervious to the additives (toxins) in today's auto gas. Never had a
problem since. >>
I used Polyester Resin to coat the cork...the auto body stuff. It's the same
material I used to build my two fuel tanks with. This will also serve to
find out if something in the fuel, like alcohol, has deteriated the resin the
tank is made from.
Yesterday, I was taking off from a local grass strip, and didn't realize
how high one of the whooptie doo's were. I had 15 gal of fuel onboard, and on
take off run, the tail came up, airspeed was just passing 30 mph, and Ba-Wump
!! It was like a ramp that tossed 'er in the air before she was ready to fly
!! I managed to hold 'er off in ground effect, and flew out of it. Surprise
take-off for sure, but she took care of me!!
Chuck G.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I can hardly wait for someone to ask what a "whooptie doo" is........
---- Original Message -----
From: <Rcaprd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cork floats
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/29/03 1:18:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> jeff2dogs@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << The lesson is to coat your float with a thin layer of epoxy that is
> impervious to the additives (toxins) in today's auto gas. Never had a
> problem since. >>
>
> I used Polyester Resin to coat the cork...the auto body stuff. It's the
same
> material I used to build my two fuel tanks with. This will also serve to
> find out if something in the fuel, like alcohol, has deteriated the resin
the
> tank is made from.
> Yesterday, I was taking off from a local grass strip, and didn't
realize
> how high one of the whooptie doo's were. I had 15 gal of fuel onboard,
and on
> take off run, the tail came up, airspeed was just passing 30 mph, and
Ba-Wump
> !! It was like a ramp that tossed 'er in the air before she was ready to
fly
> !! I managed to hold 'er off in ground effect, and flew out of it.
Surprise
> take-off for sure, but she took care of me!!
>
> Chuck G.
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 10/29/03 8:56:05 PM Central Standard Time,
jim_markle@mindspring.com writes:
<< I can hardly wait for someone to ask what a "whooptie doo" is........ >>
Jim,
The context I used the 'whoopie doo' term, was in describing the uneven
surface of the grass runway. No doubt, it was derived from a nautical term meaning
'Sailing across the white tops'. :)
Chuck G.
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Subject: | smoldering over Lake Erie |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
--- Ed Smith <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ed Smith"
> <lesmith@roanokeinternet.com>
>
>
> Bad move - it
> > packed TP into the cooling shrouds and the cleaner and made the
> flight a
> > whole lot more exciting than I wanted it to be. After that, I
> stuck to
> > dropping watermelons.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> But wouldn't hitting a watermelon tend to crush the spinner? :-)
>
This list is great! ROFL
Saludos
Gary Gower.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
I've finally got the camera working again.
The basic fuse is now complete. I think
I should stop here and make metal things
to go onto it.
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=27
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