Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/11/03


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 05:51 AM - Re: kindey stones & contact lenses (John Ford)
     2. 05:55 AM - Re: kindey stones & contact lenses (John Ford)
     3. 08:45 AM - Re: Accident reports (Carbarvo@aol.com)
     4. 09:03 AM - Re: Hinges (Carbarvo@aol.com)
     5. 10:43 PM - Re: Hinges (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     6. 10:53 PM - Re: Angle of Attack indicator (Rcaprd@aol.com)
 
 
 


Message 1


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    Time: 05:51:24 AM PST US
    From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
    Subject: Re: kindey stones & contact lenses
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu> I used to do broadcast video for a living, and decided I had to switch to glasses too. The sharpest (as in image, not as in ouch) contact lenses weren't nearly as sharp as a good pair of glasses (kind of important when taking pictures) and I could not afford the luxury of dropping what I was doing (hanging out of a helicopter, shooting a fire, etc.) to straighten out a lens gone awry. That was also about the same time I started flying and I couldn't imagine (well, I actually *could* imagine, since I often had to shoot those things) what would happen if one slid off-kilter while turning base-to-final over a mountain (I'm thinking of the approach to Talkeetna, for those of you fellow flatlanders who've ever landed there, or gone around ;-) ). Lot's of people don't have any problem with contacts at all, but I had enough that it was prudent for me to stop wearing them in my situation. I do miss being able to see in the rain or when I'm eating hot and steamy miso soup, but I never ever have to stop and readjust a lens and as Mike can attest the glasses have saved my eyes more than a few times as well. Too bad you can't feather an eye when one of them quits working, but then the thought of a foot stomping on the good one doesn't sound all that appealing either... John John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> kipandbeth@earthlink.net Monday, November 10, 2003 10:22:58 PM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> At 12:25 PM -0500 11/07/03, Michael D Cuy wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy ><Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > >>"kidney stones and most other medical issues statistically >>just don't account for enough of a problem in the skies to warrant >>additional restrictions" > > >Great quote there, (above) from Mark H. Even the Class One physical ATP >airline pilots that run 3 miles a day and eat veggies and low fat can have >a coronary at the controls of a 737. (don't mind me, I'm typing outloud:) > >I think the FAA should have banned all pilots from wearing contact lenses >too:)) (I'm kidding !!!) But I have to tell you guys what happened to >me one night bringing a Tomahawk back for landing at night one summer in >1981. The runway was all lit up, everything was perfect......until I >turned from downwind to base. My left contact lens slid off center and >wound up over in the corner where it had gone before when I moved my eyes >too fast for it to follow. For those of you who wore hard contacts before >the soft ones were really available know that this experience causes >extreme discomfort, tearing, and loss of clear vision out of one eye. So >landing with one eye closed it wasn't the prettiest landing I've ever made >but it was one of the most annoying to execute. >Mike C. do not archive Mike, Precisely the reason I gave up hard contacts (not flying, but a situation where I needed to see & NOT be distracted - boy, what a distraction). I went back to glasses & have never even considered contacts again. Actually, having glasses hanging on my nose has saved my eyes on a couple of occasions, so I don't really mind them; even geeks don't wear safety goggles ALL the time! Kip Gardner (back from a long weekend trip home to Ol' Virginia) Do Not Archive North Canton, OH


    Message 2


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    Time: 05:55:03 AM PST US
    From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
    Subject: Re: kindey stones & contact lenses
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu> Check that. I meant Kip, not Mike in my last posting. I guess I was picturing a swashbuckling Kip with a patch over one eye. Maybe if he'd only switched to glasses, aaaarrrrrgh, sooner... john do not archive John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 >>> kipandbeth@earthlink.net Monday, November 10, 2003 10:22:58 PM >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net> At 12:25 PM -0500 11/07/03, Michael D Cuy wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy ><Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> > > >>"kidney stones and most other medical issues statistically >>just don't account for enough of a problem in the skies to warrant >>additional restrictions" > > >Great quote there, (above) from Mark H. Even the Class One physical ATP >airline pilots that run 3 miles a day and eat veggies and low fat can have >a coronary at the controls of a 737. (don't mind me, I'm typing outloud:) > >I think the FAA should have banned all pilots from wearing contact lenses >too:)) (I'm kidding !!!) But I have to tell you guys what happened to >me one night bringing a Tomahawk back for landing at night one summer in >1981. The runway was all lit up, everything was perfect......until I >turned from downwind to base. My left contact lens slid off center and >wound up over in the corner where it had gone before when I moved my eyes >too fast for it to follow. For those of you who wore hard contacts before >the soft ones were really available know that this experience causes >extreme discomfort, tearing, and loss of clear vision out of one eye. So >landing with one eye closed it wasn't the prettiest landing I've ever made >but it was one of the most annoying to execute. >Mike C. do not archive Mike, Precisely the reason I gave up hard contacts (not flying, but a situation where I needed to see & NOT be distracted - boy, what a distraction). I went back to glasses & have never even considered contacts again. Actually, having glasses hanging on my nose has saved my eyes on a couple of occasions, so I don't really mind them; even geeks don't wear safety goggles ALL the time! Kip Gardner (back from a long weekend trip home to Ol' Virginia) Do Not Archive North Canton, OH


    Message 3


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    Time: 08:45:51 AM PST US
    From: Carbarvo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Accident reports
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com Hi Mark.............I hope you didn't think I was being critical....just curious. Later emails have exposed my naivete' about using the data base. It's apparently difficult to extract the exact information one wants. My reasons for being interested revolve around the use of motorcycle wheels on Piets. I have written an article which I hope appears in the BPA Newsletter. I'm asking readers to let me know of incidents involving wheel failure on Piets equipped with Motorcycle wheels. New subject: There's a gentleman named Lee Hodgson who markets plans for engine models designed by his father who's name I believe was Don. The elder Hodgson was a big-time engineer/manager at Chance Vought Aircraft and was the Project Manager on the design from which the Zero was derived. Any connection??? Carl V.


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    Time: 09:03:11 AM PST US
    From: Carbarvo@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Hinges
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Carbarvo@aol.com I used the larger extruded aluminum piano hinges (A/C Spruce catalog). Except for the expense, they seem fine...But I haven't launched yet. I like the idea of being able to remove the aileron by pulling the pin (all six feet of it), but I neglected to relieve the aileron spar ENOUGH to compensate for the thickness of the hinge, consequently, the trailing edge of the aileron is about a quarter of an inch aft of the trailing edge of the wing....good luck...Carl Vought


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    Time: 10:43:32 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Hinges
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 11/10/03 12:46:04 AM Central Standard Time, rowed044@shaw.ca writes: << I know from my R/C big scale stuff, that gapless hinges make a huge difference in handling, especially at or near stall. >> Dave, I used the plans hinges on the ailerons, then installed the ailerons, and bridged the gap with 3" edge tape. Simple, light, effective. I also came up with 'gapless hinges' for the empenage, that came directly from my R.C. days. I call it a 'Double Monocoat Hinge'. I have a sketch that I can e-mail you direct that makes it self explainatory. Chuck Gantzer Still working on the accident report. NOT FUN at all, but it needs to be done.


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    Time: 10:53:09 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Angle of Attack indicator
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 11/10/03 9:21:42 AM Central Standard Time, botsford7@hot.rr.com writes: << The recent posting of accident reports has stirred my interest in an angle of attack indicator. It seems that I have seen one in a magazine in recent years. It was relatively simple and attached on the jury strut. Do any or you know where plans can be found. It might be of interest to many of us. >> Jon, I also thought an 'Angle of Attack' indicator would be helpful. Last year, I tried a piece of tape about half way down the jury strut, and let it trail in the wind. It was simple, light, cheap, but wasn't very effective. The tape waves around too much. I'm going to try something stiff and light, in leu of the tape. When someone asked "what's this piece of tape hanging here ???" I would reply "Careful now...that's a flight control instrument". If they happened to be 'grounders' (folks who don't fly) they would look at me like I was loony tunes. Chuck G.




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