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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Rnager upright conversion (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:33 AM - [PLEASE READ!] "What's my Contribution used for?" (Matt Dralle)
3. 07:43 AM - Fw: NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION (Isablcorky@aol.com)
4. 09:32 AM - floats (Richard Navratil)
5. 09:54 AM - Re: Good Fuselage?? (Hubbard, Eugene)
6. 10:24 AM - Re: floats (Gadd, Skip)
7. 11:17 AM - deer at night (Robert Haines)
8. 11:57 AM - Re: deer at night (Christian Bobka)
9. 12:03 PM - Re: A-65 question (w b evans)
10. 12:29 PM - Re: A-65 question (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. 01:01 PM - Re: deer at night (Eric Williams)
12. 02:54 PM - Tailwheel for sale..... (Jim Markle)
13. 04:07 PM - Re: Tailwheel for sale..... (Christian Bobka)
14. 05:02 PM - Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Christian Bobka)
15. 06:01 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (TomTravis@aol.com)
16. 06:06 PM - Re: floats (Richard Navratil)
17. 06:28 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Richard Navratil)
18. 06:30 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Richard Navratil)
19. 06:42 PM - Re: A-65 question (Richard Navratil)
20. 07:02 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Richard Navratil)
21. 07:05 PM - Re: A-65 question (Rcaprd@aol.com)
22. 07:41 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Christian Bobka)
23. 09:00 PM - Re: inspection (Christian Bobka)
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Subject: | Re: Rnager upright conversion |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
Check with old car racing guys. I remember in the 50's there was
this guy in Victoria who was converting them for car racing. He
had to turn them over. At the time I thought it was sacrilegious to
do such a thing so never found out any details.
ClifSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rnager upright conversion
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Waytogopiet@aol.com
>
> Chris, If you don't get any other responses on your upright Ranger query,
> see if you can get in contact with Al Ball at Santa Paula. You may know of
him.
> He is a Ranger engine guru and rebuilder located on the airport. I do not
have
> his address or phone, but it should not be too hard to find. I think his
> operation is called Antique Engine Rebuilders. Maybe one of the other
listers has
> this info ??? Don Hicks
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
A few Listers have asked me recently, "What's my Contribution used for?",
and that's a valid question. Here are just a few examples of what your
direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive,
business-class, high-speed Internet connection used on the List, insuring
maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades
enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive
Search Engine and List Browser. It pays for 15+ years worth of on line
archive data available for instant random access. And, it offsets the many
hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and
Photoshare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and
your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from
moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer
viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements
about these days? I will venture to say - next to none...
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable aspects
of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your List
Contribution. Its the best investment you can make in your Sport - BAR NONE!
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Subject: | Fwd: NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
In a message dated 11/24/2003 9:28:12 AM Central Standard Time,
ttoelle@eaa.org writes:
Any of you nawtherners want to pass a good time yes read the
following
Corky in nawthern La
> Subj: NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION
> Date: 11/24/2003 9:28:12 AM Central Standard Time
> From: <A HREF="mailto:ttoelle@eaa.org">ttoelle@eaa.org
> Sent from the Internet
>
>
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> Well, ten down - one to go. Our November event was at the St. John the
> Baptist Airport in Reserve. They finally got a really nice weather day
> after several years of weather difficulties. I don't have an official
> count but I would guess around 70-75 airplanes attended and they flew around
> 45
> Young Eagles. I saw a lot of smiles on a lot of faces. President Harold
> Miller and his Chapter 971 volunteers did a great job with organizing and
> running the fly-in. The food was great as usual. Head cook Darrel Louque
> cooked 50% more jambalaya than last year and it was all consumed in no
> time.
> Thanks to everyone for their hard work, including our very cooperative
> Airport Manager Rick Moran, and to all the pilots that took the time to
> fly over. They had a great time and because of their attendance we all had
> a
> great time. Here is the link to the pictures.
>
> http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b35405f56598
>
> We will be gathering one more time for this Centennial year at Lakefront
> Airport on December 13th for the grand finale. It is great to see the
> 99's participate in a big way to make this event even bigger and better.
> There
> is also another group putting on the Pan American Air Races that weekend
> (Friday-Sunday) for 1930's era biplanes which is another added attraction.
> That is what this series was all about - to pull the Louisiana aviation
> community together and to show aviation to the general public. You just
> have to attend so that we can show aviation people all over the United
> States that Louisiana knows how to celebrate the Centennial of Flight in
> their typical big way. Here are the details:
>
> NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION
>
> SATURDAY, DECEMBER 13, 2003
>
> NEW ORLEANS LAKEFRONT AIRPORT
>
> All aircraft welcome, Homebuilt's, Helicopters, Ultra light's, Antique &
> Vintage
>
> Plaques will be awarded in various categories
> Military Aircraft and War birds on Static Display
>
> Fuel Discount of $0.25 per gallon at GAC
> Overnight Rates at Holiday Inn Express-$49.00
>
> Official Sponsor Lancair
> PANCAKE BREAKFAST: 8:00AM-10: 30AM; $5.00-ALL YOU CAN EAT
>
> HANGAR PARTY: "TAYLOR HANGAR" Catered dinner-Cash Bar -& DJ 7::00
> PM-11:00 PM by: New Orleans Chapter 99s
>
> Aviation Costume Contest
>
> Tickets: $15.00 (RSVP by December 1, 2003)
> Door Prizes
> For Advanced tickets: Contact Vickie Goodbee (Day) 504-486-8299
> (Night) 504-486-4825 or email: Vickie@midcitybusiness.com
> www. Propclear.com
> For more information: Contact Terry Bounds (504) 282-2237
>
> Just to whet your appetite a little and to entice you to attend the
> Centennial Celebration at Lakefront on December 13, here is the menu for
> that night's party, Lisa Cotham has furnished us with the menu for the
> Hangar Party...
>
> Crawfish tarts
> Shrimp Alfredo
> Crab and corn soup
> Cocktail meatballs
> Artichoke balls
> Mini muffulletas
> Hot crab dip
> Fruit, cheese, and relish tray
> Spinach/artichoke dip
> Shrimp salad
> Roasted pork tenderloin
> Desserts
>
> There will be a cash bar, a DJ, and door prizes. Cost is $15 per person
> in advance, $20 at the door. Also, prizes for the year-long fly-in series
> will be given out by EAA. We do hope you will a) join us and b) help get
> the
> word out.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> Lisa Cotham
> New Orleans 99s
>
> Because of the complexity of the events they are planning, New Orleans EAA
> Chapter 261 President Terry Bounds has asked that everyone who plans to
> attend the event(s) e-mail him at terry_bounds@yahoo.com or call
> (504)282-2237, if possible. Their caterer has requested a head count by
> December 1st for planning purposes, but they will welcome last minute
> drop-ins. They would also like to have a count of aircraft plus the type
> so they can do a rough parking plan (this event is open to the public).
>
> Everyone that registers at this event gets one entry to a year-end drawing
> for merchandise or services donated by our sponsors (the drawings will
> take place at the hangar party). Sponsors include Pride Aviation, Brignac
> Aviation, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Co., Rans Aircraft, Van's
> Aircraft, Angel Flight, EAA, Lancair and Exxon Elite Aviation Oil.
>
>
> Remember, we are using the Propclear Website as our official information
> and communication site for the Fly-in series and all of the other events.
> Please check the calendar and the discussion board routinely. We are already
> putting in event dates for our 2004 Louisiana Fly-in Series so be sure to
> check those out. Here is the address...
> http://www.propclear.com/
>
> Please share this note with all of your aviation friends.
> For further information, please contact the series coordinator Jim Riviere
> at 225-869-3481 or email rivierja@cox.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
Subject: NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION
From: "Troy Toelle" <ttoelle@eaa.org>
Hi Gang,
Well, ten down - one to go. Our November event was at the St. John the
Baptist Airport in Reserve. They finally got a really nice weather day
after several years of weather difficulties. I don't have an official
count but I would guess around 70-75 airplanes attended and they flew around 45
Young Eagles. I saw a lot of smiles on a lot of faces. President Harold
Miller and his Chapter 971 volunteers did a great job with organizing and
running the fly-in. The food was great as usual. Head cook Darrel Louque
cooked 50% more jambalaya than last year and it was all consumed in no
time.
Thanks to everyone for their hard work, including our very cooperative
Airport Manager Rick Moran, and to all the pilots that took the time to
fly over. They had a great time and because of their attendance we all had=20a
great time. Here is the link to the pictures.
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i67b0de21b35405f56598
We will be gathering one more time for this Centennial year at Lakefront
Airport on December 13th for the grand finale. It is great to see the
99's participate in a big way to make this event even bigger and better. There
is also another group putting on the Pan American Air Races that weekend
(Friday-Sunday) for 1930's era biplanes which is another added attraction.
That is what this series was all about - to pull the Louisiana aviation
community together and to show aviation to the general public. You just
have to attend so that we can show aviation people all over the United
States that Louisiana knows how to celebrate the Centennial of Flight in
their typical big way. Here are the details:
NEW ORLEANS CENTENNIAL OF FLIGHT CELEBRATION
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 13, 2003
NEW ORLEANS LAKEFRONT AIRPORT
All aircraft welcome, Homebuilt's, Helicopters, Ultra light's, Antique &
Vintage
Plaques will be awarded in various categories
Military Aircraft and War birds on Static Display
Fuel Discount of $0.25 per gallon at GAC
Overnight Rates at Holiday Inn Express-$49.00
Official Sponsor Lancair
PANCAKE BREAKFAST: 8:00AM-10: 30AM; $5.00-ALL YOU CAN EAT
HANGAR PARTY: "TAYLOR HANGAR" Catered dinner-Cash Bar -& DJ 7::00
PM-11:00 PM by: New Orleans Chapter 99s
Aviation Costume Contest
Tickets: $15.00 (RSVP by December 1, 2003)
Door Prizes
For Advanced tickets: Contact Vickie Goodbee (Day) 504-486-8299
(Night) 504-486-4825 or email: Vickie@midcitybusiness.com
www. Propclear.com
For more information: Contact Terry Bounds (504) 282-2237
Just to whet your appetite a little and to entice you to attend the
Centennial Celebration at Lakefront on December 13, here is the menu for
that night's party, Lisa Cotham has furnished us with the menu for the
Hangar Party...
Crawfish tarts
Shrimp Alfredo
Crab and corn soup
Cocktail meatballs
Artichoke balls
Mini muffulletas
Hot crab dip
Fruit, cheese, and relish tray
Spinach/artichoke dip
Shrimp salad
Roasted pork tenderloin
Desserts
There will be a cash bar, a DJ, and door prizes. Cost is $15 per person
in advance, $20 at the door. Also, prizes for the year-long fly-in series
will be given out by EAA. We do hope you will a) join us and b) help get the
word out.
Hope to see you there!
Lisa Cotham
New Orleans 99s
Because of the complexity of the events they are planning, New Orleans EAA
Chapter 261 President Terry Bounds has asked that everyone who plans to
attend the event(s) e-mail him at terry_bounds@yahoo.com or call
(504)282-2237, if possible. Their caterer has requested a head count by
December 1st for planning purposes, but they will welcome last minute
drop-ins. They would also like to have a count of aircraft plus the type
so they can do a rough parking plan (this event is open to the public).
Everyone that registers at this event gets one entry to a year-end drawing
for merchandise or services donated by our sponsors (the drawings will
take place at the hangar party). Sponsors include Pride Aviation, Brignac
Aviation, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Co., Rans Aircraft, Van's
Aircraft, Angel Flight, EAA, Lancair and Exxon Elite Aviation Oil.
Remember, we are using the Propclear Website as our official information
and communication site for the Fly-in series and all of the other events.
Please check the calendar and the discussion board routinely. We are already
putting in event dates for our 2004 Louisiana Fly-in Series so be sure to
check those out. Here is the address...
http://www.propclear.com/
Please share this note with all of your aviation friends.
For further information, please contact the series coordinator Jim Riviere
at 225-869-3481 or email rivierja@cox.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Would someone please re-post the web site on mukluk floats. I deleted accidently.
Thanks
Dick N.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Hubbard, Eugene" <ehubbard@titan.com>
Eric,
First the disclaimer: I'm not a structural engineer, and I haven't run the
numbers for the Piet fuselage. I do understand a lot of the physics
involved. I built my Piet fuselage 1 inch spruce longerons.
You're calculations are correct, at least for tensile strength. Stiffness
depends on dimension squared, and goes down even faster. There's a MIL-SPEC
on spruce--I don't have the number handy, but someone on the list probably
does. It lists substitution recommendations for other woods, including
Douglas fir.
On the other hand, there seems to be a general consensus that the Piet is
overbuilt. You could check into the construction used for other wood planes
to get a feeling for what is done. The only data point I (think) I remember
is that I've seen an Ospery I amphibian that appeared to be built of 3/4
inch fir.
Doublers seem like an interesting idea. If I were going to do it that way,
I'd think about 8 long strips on the outsides of the corners, over the
gussets, with filler blocks between the gussets. 1/8 inch Douglas fir over
1/8 inch filler would probably bring your strength back to nominal.
Stiffness would (probably) be better than using 1" spruce. I'd worry a bit
about using a spruce doubler over Douglas Fir because of a difference in
stiffness (Young's modulus to be specific).
Let us know how you decide to go.
Gene Hubbard
San Diego
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilliams805@msn.com]
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Good Fuselage??
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Eric Williams" <ewilliams805@msn.com>
Hi everyone. This is my first posting to this list (although Ive been
lurking for a while) and I have a situation that I would really appreciate
any comments or suggestions on.
While at Oshkosh this year, a very good friend of mine, who has too many
airplanes in various stages of repair, offered to give me a Piet project
that he had acquired several years ago from a friend of his (the builder).
I picked up the project this past weekend and it consists of a completed
fuselage structure with the plywood skin on the forward half and the floor,
a complete set of wing ribs, and a complete set of tail surfaces.
The workmanship on the project looks to be acceptable however, one thing
that bothered me was the longerons and the other fuselage members appeared
to be small in cross-section. The builder happened to stop by while we were
loading it all onto my trailer. He said that he had used douglas fir and
since his research proved to him that fir was 25% stronger than spruce, he
had reduced the dimensions of the members by 25% (from 1" to 3/4"). The
problem with this line of thinking, as I see it, is that when you multiply
3/4" by 3/4" you end up with 0.56 square inches as the cross-sectional area
of the wood that was used, as compared to 1.00 square inch in a 1" x 1"
member. That means the longerons in my fuselage actually contain 44% less
material than had they been built using 1x1 stock.
I would sincerely appreciate any thoughts you all might have as to the
usability of this fuselage. I should say that it "feels" strong and I did
sit in it while it was supported at the approximate landing gear points and
there appeared to be no deflection or creaking at all (there were a few
engine noises made however). I also wonder if I might be able to epoxy some
1/4" strips to the various members for added strength? The builder said he
had used West System epoxy to construct it.
Thanks for your input.
Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
Dick,
http://www.ultralightfloats.com/
Btw, I like both ideas on what to build next S&F woodshop, which do you need
first.
Skip
>Would someone please re-post the web site on mukluk floats. I deleted
accidently. Thanks
>
>Dick N.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
Corky,
Since you have been considering adding lights to Repiet, I've got a story
for you. This happened to me as I was doing some night flying ten years ago
or so. My brother just asked by email about this so I had the story all
typed up....
I was doing touch-and-goes at dusk and had just landed, pulled the flaps
back in, was at full throttle, and saw a herd of deer running at me from the
left. I knew they were in my path but I was going to fast to stop, to slow
to fly, and turning's not much of an option on a runway. I met the herd and
struck one with the nose of the plane. I had seen her coming and new I was
going to hit and for a fraction of a second, I saw her as bright as can be
in the landing light before impact. When she hit, the light went out and
with the exception of the runway edge lights, I was in darkness. The deer
went through the prop and between the nose wheel and the right main wheel
and hit the wing root as I went by.
I got pretty lucky: I could have hit her with the end of the wing and that
would have spun me around, not a wise move at that speed; she could have
taken out either the front wheel, the right main, or both, again not a good
thing at that speed; or she could have jumped and I could have hit her with
the windshield and that would have been the end of me.
My training immediately kicked in and the emergency checklist just drove my
next actions... fly (or drive in this case) the plane, kill engine, coast
off runway and call tower to close that runway, shut off electrics in
aircraft (so to not start a fire), get out of the plane (in case there is a
fire). It wasn't until I was out of the plane a half a minute or so did my
adrenalin kick in. I also had my flashlight in hand and was able to look at
the damage... the whole left side of the plane was coated red... puts a new
meaning to prop-wash.
The first time I told that story was to a group of friend at a bar. When I
was finished, I guy standing in an adjacent group leaned over and asked "are
you Robert Haines", I said "yes", and he said "I cleaned up your deer!" He
proceeded to tell the rest of the story as he was part of the airport
maintenance crew that got to drive out and shovel the runway clean. It was
one of the best beer drinking stories that we ever told.
I've hit two deer in my life, one with a Plymouth, one with a Piper.
Robert Haines
Du Quoin, Illinois
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Subject: | Re: deer at night |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Is it a beer drinking story or a deer brinking story?
Chris
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: deer at night
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines"
<robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
>
> Corky,
>
> Since you have been considering adding lights to Repiet, I've got a story
> for you. This happened to me as I was doing some night flying ten years
ago
> or so. My brother just asked by email about this so I had the story all
> typed up....
>
>
> I was doing touch-and-goes at dusk and had just landed, pulled the flaps
> back in, was at full throttle, and saw a herd of deer running at me from
the
> left. I knew they were in my path but I was going to fast to stop, to
slow
> to fly, and turning's not much of an option on a runway. I met the herd
and
> struck one with the nose of the plane. I had seen her coming and new I
was
> going to hit and for a fraction of a second, I saw her as bright as can be
> in the landing light before impact. When she hit, the light went out and
> with the exception of the runway edge lights, I was in darkness. The deer
> went through the prop and between the nose wheel and the right main wheel
> and hit the wing root as I went by.
>
> I got pretty lucky: I could have hit her with the end of the wing and
that
> would have spun me around, not a wise move at that speed; she could have
> taken out either the front wheel, the right main, or both, again not a
good
> thing at that speed; or she could have jumped and I could have hit her
with
> the windshield and that would have been the end of me.
>
> My training immediately kicked in and the emergency checklist just drove
my
> next actions... fly (or drive in this case) the plane, kill engine, coast
> off runway and call tower to close that runway, shut off electrics in
> aircraft (so to not start a fire), get out of the plane (in case there is
a
> fire). It wasn't until I was out of the plane a half a minute or so did
my
> adrenalin kick in. I also had my flashlight in hand and was able to look
at
> the damage... the whole left side of the plane was coated red... puts a
new
> meaning to prop-wash.
>
> The first time I told that story was to a group of friend at a bar. When
I
> was finished, I guy standing in an adjacent group leaned over and asked
"are
> you Robert Haines", I said "yes", and he said "I cleaned up your deer!"
He
> proceeded to tell the rest of the story as he was part of the airport
> maintenance crew that got to drive out and shovel the runway clean. It
was
> one of the best beer drinking stories that we ever told.
>
> I've hit two deer in my life, one with a Plymouth, one with a Piper.
>
>
> Robert Haines
> Du Quoin, Illinois
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A-65 question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
Bert,
A light just went on after thinking about this.
A friend had a newly overhauled O200 that ran rough and had a cold cylinder.
Our Mentor put his finger right on it,,,had one of the cork intake tube
gaskets folded and sucking in air.
Got a feeling that you have the same thing, but maybe a very small leak.
When you use the borrowed carb, and it runs, maybe the idle mixture screw is
adjusted very rich so the cyl will still fire even though it's getting some
extra air. When you use yours, your mixture could be set on the very lean
side so with the extra comming in it's just enough to not fire.
If the "bad" carb is still on the engine, richen the idle way up and try it
again. If that's it, look for an intake leak. You should find a bad spot
with a light and one of those small dental mirrors.
Let us know.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 question
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
<bconoly@earthlink.net>
>
> My newly overhauled engine runs good using a borrowed Stromberg carb.
Cranks with one or two props. But when I put MY carburetor (also a
Stromberg) on it it will not run on cylinder number three. I've re-checked
the mag timing, compression is 80/75 to 80/71 on all 4. New exhaust valves.
Lapped intake valves. The intake tubes and hoses are new, the valves all
close right, all new gaskets. The cylinders were done by an A&P so I do not
have an concerns with the cylinders. I actually swapped the offending
cylinder 3 with cylinder 1 and the problem stayed on number 3. I have brand
spanking new Slick Mags and new plugs.
>
> I would have assumed that a carb problem would have affected all 4
cylinders the same. Have you guys ever heard of anything like this? I have
cleaned the carb (soaked it) and inspected it - I don't see any problems.
>
> It makes GREAT power with the borrowed carb and all four cyls get hot as a
firecracker.
>
> But with my carb, number three stays cold as a clam.
> I"ve been scratching my head on this one.
>
> Who would you all recommend to send the carb to for overhaul?.
>
> Bert
> www.bconoly.tripod.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A-65 question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
Bert,
Had lunch today with an aviation type and I threw your problem at him. He
took a few bites, chewed, sipped a little beer and came up with a possibility.
Rare, very rare, but it might be it. He says, " the only way that #3 could be
starved other than manifold blockage is for the jet in the center of the venturi
to have been bent slightly thereby depriving #3 of fuel. Rare but maybe.
Corsky in La drinking hot beer on a cold day
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Subject: | Re: deer at night |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Eric Williams" <ewilliams805@msn.com>
Man! Chris barely beat me to the "deer drinking story" comment. It just
fits so well.
>From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: deer at night
>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:16:29 -0600
>
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines"
><robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
>
>Corky,
>
>Since you have been considering adding lights to Repiet, I've got a story
>for you. This happened to me as I was doing some night flying ten years
>ago
>or so. My brother just asked by email about this so I had the story all
>typed up....
>
>
>I was doing touch-and-goes at dusk and had just landed, pulled the flaps
>back in, was at full throttle, and saw a herd of deer running at me from
>the
>left. I knew they were in my path but I was going to fast to stop, to slow
>to fly, and turning's not much of an option on a runway. I met the herd
>and
>struck one with the nose of the plane. I had seen her coming and new I was
>going to hit and for a fraction of a second, I saw her as bright as can be
>in the landing light before impact. When she hit, the light went out and
>with the exception of the runway edge lights, I was in darkness. The deer
>went through the prop and between the nose wheel and the right main wheel
>and hit the wing root as I went by.
>
>I got pretty lucky: I could have hit her with the end of the wing and that
>would have spun me around, not a wise move at that speed; she could have
>taken out either the front wheel, the right main, or both, again not a good
>thing at that speed; or she could have jumped and I could have hit her with
>the windshield and that would have been the end of me.
>
>My training immediately kicked in and the emergency checklist just drove my
>next actions... fly (or drive in this case) the plane, kill engine, coast
>off runway and call tower to close that runway, shut off electrics in
>aircraft (so to not start a fire), get out of the plane (in case there is a
>fire). It wasn't until I was out of the plane a half a minute or so did my
>adrenalin kick in. I also had my flashlight in hand and was able to look
>at
>the damage... the whole left side of the plane was coated red... puts a new
>meaning to prop-wash.
>
>The first time I told that story was to a group of friend at a bar. When I
>was finished, I guy standing in an adjacent group leaned over and asked
>"are
>you Robert Haines", I said "yes", and he said "I cleaned up your deer!" He
>proceeded to tell the rest of the story as he was part of the airport
>maintenance crew that got to drive out and shovel the runway clean. It was
>one of the best beer drinking stories that we ever told.
>
>I've hit two deer in my life, one with a Plymouth, one with a Piper.
>
>
>Robert Haines
>Du Quoin, Illinois
>
>
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Subject: | Tailwheel for sale..... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I've decided to build a "conventional" Pietenpol tail wheel and not use the
leaf spring/6" solid steerable wheel I have.
Although I would prefer a trade of a more "to the plans" tailwheel assembly,
I would sell what I have for $100 plus shipping.....
I believe the wheel and spring are the following:
From the Sept 2003 Wag Aero catalog:
Wheel: page 32. Cat No D-203-000 ($146.50 retail)
Spring: page 31 Cat No D-295-000 ($46.30)
From Aircraft Spruce 2000-2001 catalog :
Cat No 06-01615 ($138.00 retail)
Cat No 06-14200 ($72.00)
Pictures on request (offline please).......
Jim in Plano, just sitting here staring at how nice my powder coating turned
out! Wow, powder coating's the ticket!! I have an HVLP setup, but start to
finish with that process is a couple hours minimum (and a lot of nasty
cleanup). Start to finish with powder coating (8-10 small parts) is less
than an hour......WAY COOL!!!!!!
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Subject: | Re: Tailwheel for sale..... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Like I said in my Powdercoating article, Jim, it is the only way to go.
Chris Bobka
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tailwheel for sale.....
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> I've decided to build a "conventional" Pietenpol tail wheel and not use
the
> leaf spring/6" solid steerable wheel I have.
>
> Although I would prefer a trade of a more "to the plans" tailwheel
assembly,
> I would sell what I have for $100 plus shipping.....
>
> I believe the wheel and spring are the following:
>
> From the Sept 2003 Wag Aero catalog:
> Wheel: page 32. Cat No D-203-000 ($146.50 retail)
> Spring: page 31 Cat No D-295-000 ($46.30)
>
> From Aircraft Spruce 2000-2001 catalog :
> Cat No 06-01615 ($138.00 retail)
> Cat No 06-14200 ($72.00)
>
> Pictures on request (offline please).......
>
> Jim in Plano, just sitting here staring at how nice my powder coating
turned
> out! Wow, powder coating's the ticket!! I have an HVLP setup, but start
to
> finish with that process is a couple hours minimum (and a lot of nasty
> cleanup). Start to finish with powder coating (8-10 small parts) is less
> than an hour......WAY COOL!!!!!!
>
>
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Subject: | Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
Navigation problem I need help with.
Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the correct
answer.
"While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed of 120
knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial is crossed
at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are:
a) 42 minutes and 84 NM
b) 42 minutes and 91 NM
c) 44 minutes and 96 NM
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Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help |
with.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
I think it's (A). 42 minutes and 84nm.
Time to station =Time for Bearing Change(minutes) X60 divided by 10.
Time to station = 7X60 = 420/10 = 42.
Distance to station = Time to station (minutes) X TAS divided by bearing
change.
Distance to station = ( 7 minutes) X TAS / 10 = 84.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Thanks Skip.
aaai actually need the wings first, but I remember being a little let down
building last time. I looked forward to it for so long and the assembly
went so fast. The floats would be a new challange.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: floats
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gadd, Skip" <Skip.Gadd@ssa.gov>
>
> Dick,
>
> http://www.ultralightfloats.com/
>
> Btw, I like both ideas on what to build next S&F woodshop, which do you
need
> first.
> Skip
>
>
> >Would someone please re-post the web site on mukluk floats. I deleted
> accidently. Thanks
> >
> >Dick N.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help |
with.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Hi Chris
I'll give it a try.
minutes to station=time in seconds divided bynumber of degrees
7x60=420
__________ = 42 mi.
10
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help
with.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
<bobka@charter.net>
>
> Navigation problem I need help with.
>
>
> Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the
correct answer.
>
> "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed
of 120 knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial
is crossed at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are:
>
> a) 42 minutes and 84 NM
> b) 42 minutes and 91 NM
> c) 44 minutes and 96 NM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help |
with.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Correction on my last. Should read 42 minutes not mi.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help
with.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
<bobka@charter.net>
>
> Navigation problem I need help with.
>
>
> Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the
correct answer.
>
> "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed
of 120 knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial
is crossed at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are:
>
> a) 42 minutes and 84 NM
> b) 42 minutes and 91 NM
> c) 44 minutes and 96 NM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A-65 question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Hey Bert
I would highly recommend Bolduc Aviation here in Minneapolis. Of course its
not cheap they did mine. $500 They do lots of them they are a major
overhaul facility for engines Their number 763-780-1185
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A-65 question
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly"
<bconoly@earthlink.net>
>
> My newly overhauled engine runs good using a borrowed Stromberg carb.
Cranks with one or two props. But when I put MY carburetor (also a
Stromberg) on it it will not run on cylinder number three. I've re-checked
the mag timing, compression is 80/75 to 80/71 on all 4. New exhaust valves.
Lapped intake valves. The intake tubes and hoses are new, the valves all
close right, all new gaskets. The cylinders were done by an A&P so I do not
have an concerns with the cylinders. I actually swapped the offending
cylinder 3 with cylinder 1 and the problem stayed on number 3. I have brand
spanking new Slick Mags and new plugs.
>
> I would have assumed that a carb problem would have affected all 4
cylinders the same. Have you guys ever heard of anything like this? I have
cleaned the carb (soaked it) and inspected it - I don't see any problems.
>
> It makes GREAT power with the borrowed carb and all four cyls get hot as a
firecracker.
>
> But with my carb, number three stays cold as a clam.
> I"ve been scratching my head on this one.
>
> Who would you all recommend to send the carb to for overhaul?.
>
> Bert
> www.bconoly.tripod.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help |
with.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Sorry, I just re-lookd and noticed the distance part of the problem.
distance= seconds divided by degrees
420
7 min x 60 = 420sec _____ = 42
42x2mi/min = 84 miles
10
deg.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help
with.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
<bobka@charter.net>
>
> Navigation problem I need help with.
>
>
> Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the
correct answer.
>
> "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed
of 120 knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial
is crossed at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are:
>
> a) 42 minutes and 84 NM
> b) 42 minutes and 91 NM
> c) 44 minutes and 96 NM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A-65 question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com
In a message dated 11/24/03 2:30:08 PM Central Standard Time,
Isablcorky@aol.com writes:
<< the only way that #3 could be
starved other than manifold blockage is for the jet in the center of the
venturi
to have been bent slightly thereby depriving #3 of fuel. Rare but maybe. >>
Bert,
A bent needle in your carb, or maybe the carb was threaded crooked. Look
straight down the venturi, and see if the needle is in the center. This is the
first thing I thought of.
Chuck G.
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Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help |
with.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Tom, Dick, (and Harry too while I am at it),
Thanks for the answers. This was a homework problem for Washburn High
School. THe instructor sent it to me because he began to doubt his answer
was correct.
I think A as well. Just looking at the answers, if you know you are doing 2
miles a minute at 120 kts, then the only answer that allows this is A.,
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need
help with.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil"
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
>
> Hi Chris
> I'll give it a try.
> minutes to station=time in seconds divided bynumber of degrees
> 7x60=420
> __________ = 42 mi.
> 10
>
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
> To: "taylorcraft" <taylorcraft@topica.com>; "pietenpol"
> <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need
help
> with.
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
> <bobka@charter.net>
> >
> > Navigation problem I need help with.
> >
> >
> > Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the
> correct answer.
> >
> > "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true
airspeed
> of 120 knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350
radial
> is crossed at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are:
> >
> > a) 42 minutes and 84 NM
> > b) 42 minutes and 91 NM
> > c) 44 minutes and 96 NM
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Dick,
Greg and Dale are putting stitts silver on right now. The airplane is down at
Stanton.
We can get together after sunday.
I'll try to drag Greg and/or Dale with me.
Exactly where are you? Phone number? Best time? Are we in heated space or do
I dress warm?
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: Christian Bobka
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: inspection
I hope that DAR comes thru for you. How is that project with Greg and Dale coming
along? I am almost ready to re-weight and re-do W/B to send in App for
airworthyness cert.
I have had a couple of NWA A&I's looking things over during the project but a
TC would be helpful.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Christian Bobka
To: Richard Navratil
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: inspection
Dick,
No DAR. They want me to have built and flown an experimental and it needs
to fly 100hrs. Besides, FAA just funded the first training class for december
2003 for the DAR-AB where AB stands for amateur built.
I am piggy backing on to Greg C.'s and Dale J.'s piet in Burnsville to get
to be a builder and we hope to have it inspected in the spring and then fly it
all summer so we have 100 hours by next fall and I can turn in the application.
I am a Technical counselor and could do a TC inspection. It helps for the
DAR's inspection. Most will ask for the TC inspection evidence in your builder's
log anyway and it helps with insurance too.
Maybe you and greg C. can arrrange for one guy to look at two airplanes for
a better price.
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Navratil
To: bobka@compuserve.com
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:44 PM
Subject: inspection
Hi Chris
Did you ever get your DAR? I am going to need an inspection soon and didn't
see you on their list. There doesn't seem to be anyone near the Mpls area.
Dick N.
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