Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/25/03


Total Messages Posted: 18



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: inspection (Richard Navratil)
     2. 11:38 AM - Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems (Michael Fisher)
     3. 12:27 PM - Re: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems (DJ Vegh)
     4. 12:31 PM - Re: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems (Kent Hallsten)
     5. 12:52 PM - Yo DJ (Fred Weaver)
     6. 01:53 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Robert Haines)
     7. 02:28 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. (Robert Haines)
     8. 03:39 PM - Re: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems (Bert Conoly)
     9. 04:12 PM - Baffling Baffles (Craig Wilcox)
    10. 04:31 PM - Corvair videos (DJ Vegh)
    11. 04:33 PM - Re: Yo DJ (DJ Vegh)
    12. 06:41 PM - Re: Landing gear (Christian Bobka)
    13. 08:16 PM - w/b (Richard Navratil)
    14. 08:20 PM - Re: Baffling Baffles (w b evans)
    15. 08:44 PM - Re: Baffling Baffles (Christian Bobka)
    16. 09:45 PM - Baffling Baffles (Christian Bobka)
    17. 10:17 PM - Re: w/b (Christian Bobka)
    18. 10:59 PM - Last Minute...? (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:56:18 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: inspection
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Chris I am leaving town for 10-12 days starting this Friday, going sailing. I have a heated hangar at Crystal Airport. I'll be in touch when I get bacl. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> > > Dick, > > Greg and Dale are putting stitts silver on right now. The airplane is down at Stanton. > > We can get together after sunday. > > I'll try to drag Greg and/or Dale with me. > > Exactly where are you? Phone number? Best time? Are we in heated space or do I dress warm? > > > chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Navratil > To: Christian Bobka > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: inspection > > > I hope that DAR comes thru for you. How is that project with Greg and Dale coming along? I am almost ready to re-weight and re-do W/B to send in App for airworthyness cert. > I have had a couple of NWA A&I's looking things over during the project but a TC would be helpful. > Dick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christian Bobka > To: Richard Navratil > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: inspection > > > Dick, > > No DAR. They want me to have built and flown an experimental and it needs to fly 100hrs. Besides, FAA just funded the first training class for december 2003 for the DAR-AB where AB stands for amateur built. > > I am piggy backing on to Greg C.'s and Dale J.'s piet in Burnsville to get to be a builder and we hope to have it inspected in the spring and then fly it all summer so we have 100 hours by next fall and I can turn in the application. > > I am a Technical counselor and could do a TC inspection. It helps for the DAR's inspection. Most will ask for the TC inspection evidence in your builder's log anyway and it helps with insurance too. > > Maybe you and greg C. can arrrange for one guy to look at two airplanes for a better price. > > chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Navratil > To: bobka@compuserve.com > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:44 PM > Subject: inspection > > > Hi Chris > Did you ever get your DAR? I am going to need an inspection soon and didn't see you on their list. There doesn't seem to be anyone near the Mpls area. > Dick N. > >


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    Time: 11:38:49 AM PST US
    From: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net>
    Subject: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> you need to right click that video link and choose "save target as" then save it locally to your hard drive. It will play fine after doing that. For some reason which I have yet to figure out, some browsers do not like to play the video even if the proper quicktime codec is installed. do the save target as and you'll be able to view it. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper Dear Friends, QuickTime will not allow me to save anything to the hard drive unless I sign up for their $30.00 QuickTime Pro package. Since I'd rather spend my money supporting programs like the Pietenpol list, I'll probably not be able to view the Corvair test run. - - Too Bad. To change the subject, does the Bert Conoly with A-65 problems own Poplar Piet N7224X? This is one of the finest examples of an auto engined Pietenpol I have ever seen. It is built in the best tradition of equipping a light, strong airframe with an easily obtainable American, liquid cooled powerplant. The smart 20 year olds who were building and flying Ford powered Piets in the thirties are still around, but now they are tapping computer keys instead of lofting wing ribs and wielding glue pots and Oxy-acetylene torches. It's rare to see anyone under 35 flying a plans-built airplane, especially with an auto engine. Perhaps this will change. Happy landings, Mike Fisher


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    Time: 12:27:48 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> just for point of reference.... I'm 29 yrs old. My Piet will be powered with my Corvair. I started my project when I was 27. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Fisher Subject: Pietenpol-List: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> you need to right click that video link and choose "save target as" then save it locally to your hard drive. It will play fine after doing that. For some reason which I have yet to figure out, some browsers do not like to play the video even if the proper quicktime codec is installed. do the save target as and you'll be able to view it. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper Dear Friends, QuickTime will not allow me to save anything to the hard drive unless I sign up for their $30.00 QuickTime Pro package. Since I'd rather spend my money supporting programs like the Pietenpol list, I'll probably not be able to view the Corvair test run. - - Too Bad. To change the subject, does the Bert Conoly with A-65 problems own Poplar Piet N7224X? This is one of the finest examples of an auto engined Pietenpol I have ever seen. It is built in the best tradition of equipping a light, strong airframe with an easily obtainable American, liquid cooled powerplant. The smart 20 year olds who were building and flying Ford powered Piets in the thirties are still around, but now they are tapping computer keys instead of lofting wing ribs and wielding glue pots and Oxy-acetylene torches. It's rare to see anyone under 35 flying a plans-built airplane, especially with an auto engine. Perhaps this will change. Happy landings, Mike Fisher = This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit <http://www.halfpricehosting.com/av.asp>.


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    Time: 12:31:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems
    From: "Kent Hallsten" <KHallsten@Governair.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Kent Hallsten" <KHallsten@Governair.com> Try it again Mike, I just downloaded the free viewer at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ and it works fine. Didn't cost a dime. I did get a window asking for a registration number for Quicktime Pro but just leave it blank and click through it. And DJ's Corvair video is nice too! Kent > > QuickTime will not allow me to save anything to the hard > drive unless I sign up for their $30.00 QuickTime Pro > package. Since I'd rather spend my money supporting programs > like the Pietenpol list, I'll probably not be able to view > the Corvair test run. - - Too Bad. > > To change the subject, does the Bert Conoly with A-65 > p >


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    Time: 12:52:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Yo DJ
    From: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Fred Weaver <mytyweav@earthlink.net> Congrats... Your website is loaded with good stuff. A good modeler always makes a great homebuilder. Hope your project is successful. Weav On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 12:25 PM, DJ Vegh wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> > > just for point of reference.... I'm 29 yrs old. My Piet will be > powered with my Corvair. I started my project when I was 27. > > DJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Fisher > To: pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net> > > Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> > > you need to right click that video link and choose "save target as" > then > save it locally to your hard drive. It will play fine after doing > that. > > For some reason which I have yet to figure out, some browsers do not > like to > play the video even if the proper quicktime codec is installed. > > do the save target as and you'll be able to view it. > > DJ Vegh > N74DV > Mesa, AZ > www.imagedv.com/aircamper > > Dear Friends, > > QuickTime will not allow me to save anything to the hard drive unless > I sign up for their $30.00 QuickTime Pro package. Since I'd rather > spend my money supporting programs like the Pietenpol list, I'll > probably not be able to view the Corvair test run. - - Too Bad. > > To change the subject, does the Bert Conoly with A-65 problems own > Poplar Piet N7224X? This is one of the finest examples of an auto > engined Pietenpol I have ever seen. It is built in the best tradition > of equipping a light, strong airframe with an easily obtainable > American, liquid cooled powerplant. The smart 20 year olds who were > building and flying Ford powered Piets in the thirties are still > around, but now they are tapping computer keys instead of lofting wing > ribs and wielding glue pots and Oxy-acetylene torches. It's rare to > see anyone under 35 flying a plans-built airplane, especially with an > auto engine. Perhaps this will change. > > Happy landings, Mike Fisher > > > > This email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for > viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting > provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit > <http://www.halfpricehosting.com/av.asp>. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _-> _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 01:53:29 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help
    with. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com> Christian, It's almost a trick question, it's like test givers pride themselfs on confusing you with extra information. Example: If a train is heading to Boston at 120 miles and hour, and Corky is adding pinto beans to chilli at the exact same time, how much does a pound of feathers weigh? Sure you could figure it out with trigonometry, but the only answer that works is A based on your true airspeed. And I was all ready to pull out my E6B to correct for crosswinds! Robert Haines Du Quoin, Illinois Time: 05:02:09 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net> "pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net> Navigation problem I need help with. Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the correct answer. "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed of 120 knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial is crossed at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are: a) 42 minutes and 84 NM b) 42 minutes and 91 NM c) 44 minutes and 96 NM


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    Time: 02:28:00 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help
    with. --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com> OK OK, I'm such a nerd... In 7 minutes at 120knots, the aircraft travels 14NM. This would be the opposite end of the right triangle (remember? opposite, adjacent, hypotenuse) and the distance back to the station off of the 350 radial would be the hypotenuse, since he is traveling 270. Sin of 10 degrees equals opposite divided by hypotenuse... so after rearranging that equation, hypotenuse equals opposite (14NM) divided by Sin of 10 degrees. After typing all that into my VERY high folutin' HP calculator, rearranging the pens in my shirt pocket, pushing up my thick glasses and blowing my nose, the distance is 80.6NM.... gesh, that's not even a choice! I guess at this point I could back calculate all the distances in the answers to find the actual distance traveled taking into account a crosswind, since of course all the answers are bigger and the triangle is bigger meaning that more distance was traveled in the 7 minutes meaning the aircraft had a tailwind. But since I don't know the direction or speed it is an infinite amount of combinations to actually equal the distances from the station given in the answers... I guess I could iterate through all the possibilities and find the crosswind directions and speeds that give distances and times (using the crosswind to correct for groundspeed) that match one (or likely more) of the answers... Meanwhile the student taking the test has just wasted twenty minutes on a 30 second question and although he knows the material, the testgiver just screwed him out of a good grade due to all these damn trick questions. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Haines" <robertsjunk@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need help with. > Christian, > > It's almost a trick question, it's like test givers pride themselfs on > confusing you with extra information. Example: If a train is heading to > Boston at 120 miles and hour, and Corky is adding pinto beans to chilli at > the exact same time, how much does a pound of feathers weigh? > > Sure you could figure it out with trigonometry, but the only answer that > works is A based on your true airspeed. And I was all ready to pull out my > E6B to correct for crosswinds! > > > Robert Haines > Du Quoin, Illinois > > > Time: 05:02:09 PM PST US > From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net> > "pietenpol" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [EAA Chapter 25] Navigation problem I need > help with. > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net> > > Navigation problem I need help with. > > > Could someone tackle this problem for me..I'm not sure if I have the > correct > answer. > > "While maintaining a magnetic heading of 270 degrees and a true airspeed > of 120 > knots, the 360 radial of a VOR is crossed at 1237 and the 350 radial is > crossed > at 1244. The approximate time and distance to this station are: > > a) 42 minutes and 84 NM > b) 42 minutes and 91 NM > c) 44 minutes and 96 NM > >


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    Time: 03:39:46 PM PST US
    From: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bert Conoly" <bconoly@earthlink.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Fisher" <mfisher@gci.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Apple QuickTime Viewing Problems > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net> >snipped > To change the subject, does the Bert Conoly with A-65 problems own Poplar Piet N7224X? This is one of the finest examples of an auto engined Pietenpol I have ever seen. It is built in the best tradition of equipping a light, strong airframe with an easily obtainable American, liquid cooled powerplant. > > Happy landings, Mike Fisher Poplar Piet was lost in an accident June 2002. The builder was Larry Harrison. For the record, the accident was NOT engine or performance related. The passenger inadvertently, somehow, pulled the throttle linkage from the left side of the fuselage, The engine immediately went to idle with no ability to control it and apply full power. It occured at the worst possible time. At about 200 feet AGL right after take off above trees with no place in site for a emergency landing. Larry managed to nurse it, nearly at stall, into the top of the trees. I believe NTSB reports say it was loss of power but it was because of the linkage being disconnected. I suggest we all put some protection for the linkage in place. Possibly a sheet aluminum "chase" or cover to protect it. Or Maybe a different cable arrangement of some kind. My 2 cents... It WAS a fine little plane. Bert Conoly > >


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    Time: 04:12:08 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com>
    Subject: Baffling Baffles
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> Guys - How have most of you affixed your inter-cylinder cooling baffles? The little ones that go between the cylinders from the bottom. I have got mine all cut and fitted in place - many bends!, but need to make sure that they will not fall out. Thanks - Craig Having fun, enjoying life! Craig Wilcox craigwilcox@peoplepc.com Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this?


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    Time: 04:31:21 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Corvair videos
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> I've got some more videos I took today of the Corvair. I have 4 hours on it now. I'm still fiddling with the needle settings on the AeroCarb, but overall it's running nicely! I'll post up the videos tonight and send a link to them tomorrow. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper -


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    Time: 04:33:26 PM PST US
    From: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
    Subject: Re: Yo DJ
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com> Thanks Fred....... I'll be starting wings this winter now that the Corvair engine is complete. If all goes as planned I may be flying this thing next winter. DJ Vegh N74DV Mesa, AZ www.imagedv.com/aircamper - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Weaver" <mytyweav@earthlink.net> > Congrats... Your website is loaded with good stuff. A good modeler > always makes a great homebuilder. Hope your project is successful. > Weav


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    Time: 06:41:37 PM PST US
    From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@charter.net> Some of you all might remember Dan Zigo from Ardmore, Oklahoma, who participated on this list up until about a year ago when he left for Iraq. Well, I sent an email out to his address and below is the reply I got. When he comes back, let's all give him a good welcome back... chris bobka ----- Original Message ----- From: ZigoDan@aol.com To: bobka@charter.net Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Landing gear No, he hasn't come back yet. His arrival in the States got pushed back by a few weeks. He will be home before Christmas and I will save your email for him. Thanks!


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    Time: 08:16:52 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: w/b
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> I did a safety re-weight of piet today and got a big suprise. The scale I originally weighed with was a bathroom type. When I stepped on, it agreed with my known weight 200lb. When I held 2- 5gal cans of gas while standing on it the reading was 20 lb off. I had weighed the piet at 265 on each main and 30 on the tail with a short fuse that would have been empty CG of 7.01 The actual weight turned out to be 297 on each main for a CG of 12.5. That error could have been very dangerous. Now I have to figure out how to deal with this. Dick


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    Time: 08:20:40 PM PST US
    From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Baffling Baffles
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> Craig, My mentor said that I didn't need them. walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> > > Guys - > > How have most of you affixed your inter-cylinder cooling baffles? The little ones that go between the cylinders from the bottom. I have got mine all cut and fitted in place - many bends!, but need to make sure that they will not fall out. > > Thanks - > Craig > Having fun, enjoying life! > > Craig Wilcox > craigwilcox@peoplepc.com > > > Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this? > >


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    Time: 08:44:34 PM PST US
    From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
    Subject: Re: Baffling Baffles
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Walt, Put them on. Chris Bobka ATP, CFI, A&P, IA, FE, AGI ----- Original Message ----- From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> > > Craig, > My mentor said that I didn't need them. > walt evans > NX140DL > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox" > <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> > > > > Guys - > > > > How have most of you affixed your inter-cylinder cooling baffles? The > little ones that go between the cylinders from the bottom. I have got mine > all cut and fitted in place - many bends!, but need to make sure that they > will not fall out. > > > > Thanks - > > Craig > > Having fun, enjoying life! > > > > Craig Wilcox > > craigwilcox@peoplepc.com > > > > > > Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this? > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:45:54 PM PST US
    From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
    Subject: Baffling Baffles
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Craig, Take a look at your handy copy of Bingelis Firewall Forward page 127 and 131 for patterns to make all the baffles for the small continentals. The oil cooling baffle shown on page 131 is highly recommended and it really works. The premise is to positively route cooling air along the lower side of the case where the oil is in the process of draining back to the sump. It is where the oil is hottest and is thus able to lose the most heat in the shortest time frame. This oil shroud also keeps you from having a high pressure air leak under the cylinders right where you want to have the air pressure lowest. High air pressure on top of the cylinders gets forced THROUGH the fins by the small baffles that are put on from underneath the cylinders. Walt Evans' airflow does not get forced THROUGH the fins but can conveniently pass through the big opening near the cylinder fins so he loses out on cooling that his mentor THINKS he has plenty of. For an engine the size of the small continentals, you can get by with no baffling as long as you make about 45 hp or less. The two nicest setups for the intercylinder baffles is either the Taylorcraft or the Cessna 140 with the Taylorcraft the better one. See if you can find someone with a Taylorcraft with a Continental that can show you the set up. Can you send pictures of what you have already? Chris Bobka ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> > > Walt, > > Put them on. > > Chris Bobka > ATP, CFI, A&P, IA, FE, AGI > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" <wbeevans@verizon.net> > > > > Craig, > > My mentor said that I didn't need them. > > walt evans > > NX140DL > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Craig Wilcox" <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> > > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Baffling Baffles > > > > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Craig Wilcox" > > <CRAIGWILCOX@peoplepc.com> > > > > > > Guys - > > > > > > How have most of you affixed your inter-cylinder cooling baffles? The > > little ones that go between the cylinders from the bottom. I have got > mine > > all cut and fitted in place - many bends!, but need to make sure that they > > will not fall out. > > > > > > Thanks - > > > Craig > > > Having fun, enjoying life! > > > > > > Craig Wilcox > > > craigwilcox@peoplepc.com > > > > > > > > > Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this? > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:17:41 PM PST US
    From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
    Subject: Re: w/b
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com> Dick, If you join EAA CHapter 25 for 25 bucks and donate another ten bucks, you can use the chapter certified and calibrated scales when I come look at your ship. We could also weight the ship with you in it to determine the EXACT location of the cockpit CG. We could also do the same with someone in the front 'pit. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: w/b > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> > > I did a safety re-weight of piet today and got a big suprise. The scale I originally weighed with was a bathroom type. When I stepped on, it agreed with my known weight 200lb. When I held 2- 5gal cans of gas while standing on it the reading was 20 lb off. I had weighed the piet at 265 on each main and 30 on the tail with a short fuse that would have been empty CG of 7.01 The actual weight turned out to be 297 on each main for a CG of 12.5. > That error could have been very dangerous. > Now I have to figure out how to deal with this. > Dick > >


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    Time: 10:59:54 PM PST US
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