---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/07/03: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Ski (w b evans) 2. 04:48 AM - Changing wingspan (rhartwig11@juno.com) 3. 04:52 AM - Wingspan (rhartwig11@juno.com) 4. 02:08 PM - Re: Changing rear seat-back angle (Catdesign) 5. 02:25 PM - Re: Wingspan (Catdesign) 6. 03:28 PM - Re: Wingspan (Mike Whaley) 7. 05:48 PM - Re: Wingspan (Dmott9@aol.com) 8. 09:36 PM - A good trivia question (Christian Bobka) 9. 10:53 PM - Re: A good trivia question (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:42 AM PST US From: "w b evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ski --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "w b evans" Chuck, Yeah, we're getting wholloped way too early. Had built skis for a U/L years ago, they're a real kick to fly on. New things to learn too. Like think ahead when it comes to taxiing in to stop before the next ride. If a plane with conventional gear has skis, you CAN'T pick up the tail and walk it around. It will twist the gear off. Also getting started by working the rudder from side to break the skis loose from the snow. They are fairly easy to make. Pull a wheel off and slide on a ski! walt evans NX140DL ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ski > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com > > Hey Walt E. - ya got your skis mounted ? I see the North East got their > first big snow storm. > > Chuck G. > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Changing wingspan From: rhartwig11@juno.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com Mike, Bill Rewey made his center section 3-feet wide instead of 2-feet. His wing panels are built as to plans. This gives him 1-foot more wingspan than standard. He made no other changes because of the increased wingspan. I am building my wings the same way. His plane has a Cont. A-65 and has been flying for several years and has hundreds of hours logged with passengers (many of them Young Eagles.) Bill weighs close to 200# and has flown passengers in the 235# range (on warm days!) Bill does not have e-mail, but if you contact me at rhartwig11@juno.com I can put you in touch with him. Bill is well known for his Pietenpol forums at AirVenture and Sun n' Fun. Dick Hartwig Original message Does anyone have any experience/knowledge about building Piets with varying wingspans? Seems to me that if one isn't going for speed, one may as well go for shorter takeoff rolls(?), shallower glide path(?), etc, and therefore maybe extend the wings just a bit. Would this require any changes to the tail surfaces? -Mike B. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wingspan From: rhartwig11@juno.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: rhartwig11@juno.com Mike, Bill Rewey made his center section 3-feet wide instead of 2-feet. His wing panels are built as to plans. This gives him 1-foot more wingspan than standard. He made no other changes because of the increased wingspan. I am building my wings the same way. His plane has a Cont. A-65 and has been flying for several years and has hundreds of hours logged with passengers (many of them Young Eagles.) Bill weighs close to 200# and has flown passengers in the 235# range (on warm days!) Bill does not have e-mail, but if you contact me at rhartwig11@juno.com I can put you in touch with him. Bill is well known for his Pietenpol forums at AirVenture and Sun n' Fun. Dick Hartwig Original message Does anyone have any experience/knowledge about building Piets with varying wingspans? Seems to me that if one isn't going for speed, one may as well go for shorter takeoff rolls(?), shallower glide path(?), etc, and therefore maybe extend the wings just a bit. Would this require any changes to the tail surfaces? -Mike B. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:47 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Changing rear seat-back angle --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" My back headrest is 3" taller and my seat is as low as I could go and still have room for the cables to fit under it. I also cut the knee holes in the front seat back higher (like mike). Instrument boards are 11" high. Chris T. Sacramento, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Changing rear seat-back angle > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: At7000ft@aol.com > > Thanks Chris > > I will try it on the mockup. Other small modifications in the rear seat area I am looking at to accomidate us taller people (I am 6') is raising the rear turtle deck an inch or two (as Mike Cuy mentioned on his video), and lowering the seat an inch or two as John Dilatush did. > > Rick Holland > > > > > I change the angled of my seat but I don't know by how much. This is what I > > did, I measured out the spacing per the plans then I moved the top of the brace > > (the edge facing to the front) behind the measurement mark and then the bottom > > (the edge facing to the back)in front of the measurement mark. Don't know how > > much of an angle change it was but it feels good to me. Also, notice the head > > rest is shown attached behind the top seat brace/fuselage > > cross brace. I am > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:49 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wingspan --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" You can find an article about Mark Anderson's Pietenpol here, http://members.aol.com/bpabpa7315/mark.html. It says his wing are 2 feet longer. Chris T. Sacramento, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wingspan > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: piet@pointdx.com > > Does anyone have any experience/knowledge about building Piets with varying > wingspans? Seems to me that if one isn't going for speed, one may as well go for > shorter takeoff rolls(?), shallower glide path(?), etc, and therefore maybe > extend the wings just a bit. > > Would this require any changes to the tail surfaces? > > -Mike B. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:24 PM PST US From: "Mike Whaley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wingspan --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike Whaley" There's someone over on the west coast of Florida who stretched the wings on his Piet. Can't remember his name and I can't find my notes right now but I sat in his plane at SNF 2003. It was stretched 4 feet (not sure if that was total, or per side) and the plane has been modified to look a bit like a Curtiss Jenny. Said it flew just like a Pietenpol... not sure the reason for the change though. -Mike > << Does anyone have any experience/knowledge about building Piets with varying > wingspans? Seems to me that if one isn't going for speed, one may as well go > for > shorter takeoff rolls(?), shallower glide path(?), etc, and therefore maybe > extend the wings just a bit. Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association http://www.ov-10bronco.net/ http://www.ov-10bronco.net/users/merlin/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:10 PM PST US From: Dmott9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wingspan --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dmott9@aol.com In a message dated 12/7/03 5:26:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, catdesign@intergate.com writes: > You can find an article about Mark Anderson's Pietenpol here, > http://members.aol.com/bpabpa7315/mark.html. It says his wing are 2 feet > longer. > > Chris T. > Sacramento, CA That URL is actually http://users.aol.com/bpabpa7315 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:35 PM PST US From: "Christian Bobka" "chilton" , "Flitzer" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A good trivia question --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" We have all heard of Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio. Is Wright Field named after both of the Wright Brothers or is it named for only one and, if so, which one of the Wright Brothers is Wright Field named after? chris bobka ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:16 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A good trivia question --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson http://www.ascho.wpafb.af.mil/wpinfo/wrightfieldlegacy.htm This should help. Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Bobka" ; "Flitzer" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A good trivia question > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" > > We have all heard of Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio. Is Wright Field named after both of the Wright Brothers or is it named for only one and, if so, which one of the Wright Brothers is Wright Field named after? > > > chris bobka > >