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1. 05:02 AM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (TomTravis@aol.com)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (Jim Markle)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (DJ Vegh)
4. 07:23 AM - BS 1088 (Christian Bobka)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (dan john)
6. 07:38 AM - Wright Flight- off topic (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 07:44 AM - Re: Wright Flight- off topic (Michael D Cuy)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: BS 1088 (Jim Markle)
9. 08:03 AM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (catdesign@intergate.com)
10. 12:59 PM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (wry22@drexel.edu)
11. 02:01 PM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (JamesJboyer@aol.com)
12. 02:58 PM - Re: BS 1088 (Dave and Connie)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (Isablcorky@aol.com)
14. 03:24 PM - Re: Another fuselage width question (Ellie & Jim Sheen)
15. 03:32 PM - Re: BS 1088 (Kip & Beth Gardner)
16. 04:10 PM - Re: BS 1088 (Dave and Connie)
17. 06:03 PM - Re: BS 1088 (Kip & Beth Gardner)
18. 07:53 PM - Re: BS 1088 - Noah's (DJ Vegh)
19. 09:10 PM - Re: capstrip and Gusset plates (dave rowe)
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,
bobka@compuserve.com writes:
>
> Tom,
>
> Is the door skin waterproof?
>
> Chris Bobka
>
Hi Chris,
The specs all looked right so I got some and did a water soak test and there
was no delamination.
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
The plywood Tom and I have used from this source is "marine type to British
Standards 1088".....
I'm pretty sure that makes it about as close to waterproof as you can
get.... Good stuff.....
Jim in Plano....wishing I was done with beadblasting and powdercoating and
could get back to using the aforementioned (dang, I love those big words!)
materials.......
----- Original Message -----
From: <TomTravis@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> bobka@compuserve.com writes:
>
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Is the door skin waterproof?
> >
> > Chris Bobka
> >
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> The specs all looked right so I got some and did a water soak test and
there
> was no delamination.
>
>
> Tom
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
I get my 1/16 ply at www.balsausa.com they have excellent quality 1/16 ply
and a VERY good price.
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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----- Original Message -----
From: "hjarrett" <hjarrett@hroads.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "hjarrett" <hjarrett@hroads.net>
>
> WOAH!! Don't go to Home Depot or Lowe's for your wood unless you know
> exactly what you are looking for and can insure it's what you want without
> help from them. I tried to get some Doug Fir at Home Quarters (or one of
> those places anyway) and the guy in the lumber section told me they didn't
> sell fir there, that I would have to go to a sewing place to get it!!! I
> asked to speak to the lumber manager and found out he was! These guys
DON'T
> KNOW SQUAT about wood. Your best bet is to talk to some of the local boat
> or furniture builders and find out where there is a REAL lumber yard. As
> for 1/16 ply you will probably be best off to get that at the same place.
> There are places you can mail order but the shipping is pretty steep.
Read
> up on the grain requirements for the wood you will need on the internet
and
> you might want to get some cheap stuff and build a couple of ribs from it
to
> start. Might as well learn to rip the strips and make good glue joints on
> some cheap pine while you are looking for the good wood.
> Where are you located? Maybe somebody is close enough to point you to a
> good source of raw material. Are you anywhere in the South East VA area?
> Hank J
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Rives Young" <wry22@drexel.edu>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "William Rives Young"
> <wry22@drexel.edu>
> >
> > I am getting ready to try and start making my wing ribs again. Last
time
> school interfered. I am having trouble finding plywood thin enough to
make
> gusset plates. The plans call for 1/16 inch plates and nobody sells
plywood
> that tin. I am also having trouble finding Douglas fir to make the caps
> strips. I have tried home depot and Lowe's and neither carry Douglas fir.
> The reason that I haven't ordered spruce from aircraft spruce or wicks is
> because I will only be able to afford to do this a little at a time until
I
> am out of college. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Jim,
That is good stuff. It is what I used on the Waco Taperwing ribs. I even
think it is better than the U. S. made MIL-W-6070 plywood. The BS1088 is
mahoghany throughout while the 6070 is poplar core.
I had purchased mine at Aircraft Spruce about 9 years ago. They no longer
carry it.
Where did you guys get it again? Do you have an address in phone number? I
might have to do a long Dallas layover and buy some and ship it back to MN.
Chris Bobka
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>
> The plywood Tom and I have used from this source is "marine type to
British
> Standards 1088".....
>
> I'm pretty sure that makes it about as close to waterproof as you can
> get.... Good stuff.....
>
> Jim in Plano....wishing I was done with beadblasting and powdercoating and
> could get back to using the aforementioned (dang, I love those big words!)
> materials.......
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TomTravis@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> > bobka@compuserve.com writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > Is the door skin waterproof?
> > >
> > > Chris Bobka
> > >
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > The specs all looked right so I got some and did a water soak test and
> there
> > was no delamination.
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dan john <ballmell@yahoo.com>
I would suggest you join the closest EAA chapter and
ask the members about local sources for good wood.Most
chapters would love to help. John P.
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| Subject: | Wright Flight- off topic |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Oh, yeah- I forgot to mention (in connection with the Centennial of Flight)-
Mike Cuy built a beautiful and innovative "salute to nostalgic flight"
machine. I found the picture of it so delightful that it became my computer
wallpaper most of last year. You can see it at
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/two_wheels.jpg
Mike says he actually operated this thing, although it's hard for me to
imagine it being very stable.
Oscar Zuniga (do not archive)
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan.
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| Subject: | Re: Wright Flight- off topic |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Thank you, Oscar. I took an old junk bike from the garage and went to
Home Depot (just like the fisherman would be proud of) and built a
look-alike of the bike they ride around at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome
Museum. There is some black and white footage some of you may have seen
from the lat 1800's, or early 1900's that shows a guy with some kind of
Roman-candle/rocket-powered bike with wings trying to fly. He actually
did get airborne in the footage but as soon as the front wheel left the
ground he lost his steering control and ended up in a heap. I'll post
more pics on the matronics site (if they allow them)
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Plywood & Door
http://www.pdusa.com/contact.htm
They're located in Chicago, Dallas, LA and New York.
For comparison, I bought a 4X8 sheet of plywood (around 5/16" or 3/8" thick)
for about $50. Wicks/AS&S was well over $200 (plus shipping) for the same
size.
But I wasn't able to just walk in and buy. I had to go through a lumber
yard (the one where I buy my Douglas Fir). You can probably talk them into
selling directly to you. When Tom bought directly from them, he apparently
applied a higher level of schmoozing (some may need to look that up in
"Yiddish for Dummies") than I....... :-)
jm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BS 1088
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
<bobka@compuserve.com>
>
> Jim,
>
> That is good stuff. It is what I used on the Waco Taperwing ribs. I even
> think it is better than the U. S. made MIL-W-6070 plywood. The BS1088 is
> mahoghany throughout while the 6070 is poplar core.
>
> I had purchased mine at Aircraft Spruce about 9 years ago. They no longer
> carry it.
>
> Where did you guys get it again? Do you have an address in phone number?
I
> might have to do a long Dallas layover and buy some and ship it back to
MN.
>
> Chris Bobka
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
> <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >
> > The plywood Tom and I have used from this source is "marine type to
> British
> > Standards 1088".....
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that makes it about as close to waterproof as you can
> > get.... Good stuff.....
> >
> > Jim in Plano....wishing I was done with beadblasting and powdercoating
and
> > could get back to using the aforementioned (dang, I love those big
words!)
> > materials.......
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <TomTravis@aol.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > bobka@compuserve.com writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Is the door skin waterproof?
> > > >
> > > > Chris Bobka
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > The specs all looked right so I got some and did a water soak test and
> > there
> > > was no delamination.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "catdesign@intergate.com" <catdesign@intergate.com>
BalsaUSA is where I bought my rib plywood as well. They sell very good quality
birch plywood and Liteply (which I think is poplar plywood but I am not sure
about that). I
guess us model builder all think alike.
Spruce came from Wicks pre cut to 1/4" x 1/2", ordered 93 pieces at 6 feet long
was only about $100 plus shipping. A USED textbook will cost that much......I
say don't wast your time trying to mill it yourself unless you happen to get
the wood for next to nothing and you have the tools handy.
Chris T.
Sacramento, Ca
Quoting DJ Vegh <djv@imagedv.com>:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
>
> I get my 1/16 ply at www.balsausa.com they have excellent quality 1/16 ply
> and a VERY good price.
>
> DJ Vegh
> N74DV
> Mesa, AZ
> www.imagedv.com/aircamper
>
>
> -
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hjarrett" <hjarrett@hroads.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "hjarrett" <hjarrett@hroads.net>
> >
> > WOAH!! Don't go to Home Depot or Lowe's for your wood unless you know
> > exactly what you are looking for and can insure it's what you want without
> > help from them. I tried to get some Doug Fir at Home Quarters (or one of
> > those places anyway) and the guy in the lumber section told me they didn't
> > sell fir there, that I would have to go to a sewing place to get it!!! I
> > asked to speak to the lumber manager and found out he was! These guys
> DON'T
> > KNOW SQUAT about wood. Your best bet is to talk to some of the local boat
> > or furniture builders and find out where there is a REAL lumber yard. As
> > for 1/16 ply you will probably be best off to get that at the same place.
> > There are places you can mail order but the shipping is pretty steep.
> Read
> > up on the grain requirements for the wood you will need on the internet
> and
> > you might want to get some cheap stuff and build a couple of ribs from it
> to
> > start. Might as well learn to rip the strips and make good glue joints on
> > some cheap pine while you are looking for the good wood.
> > Where are you located? Maybe somebody is close enough to point you to a
> > good source of raw material. Are you anywhere in the South East VA area?
> > Hank J
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Rives Young" <wry22@drexel.edu>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "William Rives Young"
> > <wry22@drexel.edu>
> > >
> > > I am getting ready to try and start making my wing ribs again. Last
> time
> > school interfered. I am having trouble finding plywood thin enough to
> make
> > gusset plates. The plans call for 1/16 inch plates and nobody sells
> plywood
> > that tin. I am also having trouble finding Douglas fir to make the caps
> > strips. I have tried home depot and Lowe's and neither carry Douglas fir.
> > The reason that I haven't ordered spruce from aircraft spruce or wicks is
> > because I will only be able to afford to do this a little at a time until
> I
> > am out of college. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: wry22@drexel.edu
Thanks to all that replied. Never even thought about a r/c hobby shop for the
plywood. Looks like I got my winter vacation planned looking for wood and fixing
our planer.
Will in North Eastern PA
PS. Corky, no fears about the GPA I am still trying to get the Army to let me fly
helicopters for them after I graduate. I know where my priorities are, now
it is just a matter of execution.
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: JamesJboyer@aol.com
Hi Chris, good point on the price of the wood from wicks. If its that cheap
then save the time milling it yourself. I did have fun doing it though.
How are you coming now on your Piet? Cheers, Jim
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
Chris,
I purchased it for a kayak at Noah's Marine in Toronto, Ont. Not a good
choice from Texas but good for the NY types.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65
At 10:15 AM 12/19/2003, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
>
>Jim,
>
>That is good stuff. It is what I used on the Waco Taperwing ribs. I even
>think it is better than the U. S. made MIL-W-6070 plywood. The BS1088 is
>mahoghany throughout while the 6070 is poplar core.
>
>I had purchased mine at Aircraft Spruce about 9 years ago. They no longer
>carry it.
>
>Where did you guys get it again? Do you have an address in phone number? I
>might have to do a long Dallas layover and buy some and ship it back to MN.
>
>Chris Bobka
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jim Markle"
><jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> >
> > The plywood Tom and I have used from this source is "marine type to
>British
> > Standards 1088".....
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that makes it about as close to waterproof as you can
> > get.... Good stuff.....
> >
> > Jim in Plano....wishing I was done with beadblasting and powdercoating and
> > could get back to using the aforementioned (dang, I love those big words!)
> > materials.......
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <TomTravis@aol.com>
> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: capstrip and Gusset plates
> >
> >
> > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: TomTravis@aol.com
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:01:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > bobka@compuserve.com writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Is the door skin waterproof?
> > > >
> > > > Chris Bobka
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > The specs all looked right so I got some and did a water soak test and
> > there
> > > was no delamination.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Isablcorky@aol.com
Pieters,young and old.
Several times I've entered the discussions of wood sources.
All I will say is: If you buy from a NW source in 2X6- 16ft lengths. Pay a
little freight charge you will come out way ahead ie For my Piet I used Doug Fir
@ $ 4.45 per bd ft. Of course I had to mill it but that was part of the
building fun. On Repiet I am going totally with select sitka spruce @ $8.50 per
bd
ft bought as 2X6-16 ft long. Again I had to mill it. I'm building Repiet out
of fine spruce. Entire plane will be less than than $900 in spruce. Calculate
Wicks and ASS and it will figure between $25 and $28 per bd ft. It's your
money.
Corky, the ole tight wad in La
If anyone is interested contact me direct for my source of materials
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| Subject: | Re: Another fuselage width question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Ellie & Jim Sheen" <sheenej@adelphia.net>
John,
I am working on the fuselage for the "Improved Air Camper" and compared
measurements with the "Original" And found the 9+" to be distributed
somewhat evenly throughout length of the fuselage. Check the drawings of
both versions and plan accordingly.
Good luck.
Jim Sheen
----- Original Message -----
From: "john e fay" <jefay@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Another fuselage width question
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: john e fay <jefay@juno.com>
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:55:01 -0500 At7000ft@aol.com writes:
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: At7000ft@aol.com
> >
>
> >
> > This is exactly what I was proposing. However in searching the
> > archives I can't find anyone who has done it this way, they all
> > widen from the firewall back. Has anyone built their fuselage this
> > way?
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I have not yet built my fuselage, but that is my plan also, to keep the
> fuselage the full 24" width to the back of the pilot's seat. One of the
> first Pietenpol forums I attended at OSH I asked Vi Kapler about this and
> he said it should be no problem, especially in my case since I was
> planning to build the long fuselage. The long fuselage (if I remember
> this right, but I haven't checked the plans about this for about 2 years)
> adds about 10 inches to the length of the total fuselage, and 6-8 inches
> of this is behind the pilot's seat. That shouldn't make the bending much
> more severe. But if you are worried about making the bends OK, another
> option is to laminate the whole longeron out of thinner strips, building
> in the bend.
>
> John Fay in Peoria
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 10:15 AM -0500 12/19/03, Christian Bobka wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka" <bobka@compuserve.com>
>
>Jim,
>
>That is good stuff. It is what I used on the Waco Taperwing ribs. I even
>think it is better than the U. S. made MIL-W-6070 plywood. The BS1088 is
>mahoghany throughout while the 6070 is poplar core.
>
>I had purchased mine at Aircraft Spruce about 9 years ago. They no longer
>carry it.
>
>Where did you guys get it again? Do you have an address in phone number? I
>might have to do a long Dallas layover and buy some and ship it back to MN.
>
>Chris Bobka
Chris,
You can also get the BS1088 from Noah's Marine (www.noahsmarine.com - I
think, if that doesn't work, I know they come up on a Google search of
BS1088).
They are in Buffalo & on the west coast somwhere. According to their web
site (the last time I checked, about a year ago), they will ship to
individuals & the shipping costs are no worse, if not better than
ACS/wicks. Of coures, the cost for the wood is considerably cheaper.
Everything they sell is metric (thickness), as I believe this stuff comes
from Israel, but it's not too hard to figure out what you need.
Cheers,
Kip Gardner
North Canton, OH
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
Kip,
Noahs doesn't actually sell out of Buffalo. What they do is ship it from
Toronto to Buffalo and you do the pickup there. You also get hit for the
shipping. If you are going to do a Buffalo pickup you may as well go the
extra 2 hours to Toronto and do some drooling at the store. It is just
under 3 hours each way for me. Canadians all drive like they are flying
low :-).
The Okume ply that I bought was made in Israel from African wood and for
some reason was duty free into the US as long as it was for personal
use. You can also get back the 15% VAT.
Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65
At 06:34 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner
><kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
>
>At 10:15 AM -0500 12/19/03, Christian Bobka wrote:
> >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Christian Bobka"
> <bobka@compuserve.com>
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >That is good stuff. It is what I used on the Waco Taperwing ribs. I even
> >think it is better than the U. S. made MIL-W-6070 plywood. The BS1088 is
> >mahoghany throughout while the 6070 is poplar core.
> >
> >I had purchased mine at Aircraft Spruce about 9 years ago. They no longer
> >carry it.
> >
> >Where did you guys get it again? Do you have an address in phone number? I
> >might have to do a long Dallas layover and buy some and ship it back to MN.
> >
> >Chris Bobka
>
>Chris,
>
>You can also get the BS1088 from Noah's Marine (www.noahsmarine.com - I
>think, if that doesn't work, I know they come up on a Google search of
>BS1088).
>
>They are in Buffalo & on the west coast somwhere. According to their web
>site (the last time I checked, about a year ago), they will ship to
>individuals & the shipping costs are no worse, if not better than
>ACS/wicks. Of coures, the cost for the wood is considerably cheaper.
>Everything they sell is metric (thickness), as I believe this stuff comes
>from Israel, but it's not too hard to figure out what you need.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kip Gardner
>
>North Canton, OH
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip & Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
At 7:10 PM -0500 12/19/03, Dave and Connie wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie
><dmatthe1@rochester.rr.com>
>
>Kip,
>
>Noahs doesn't actually sell out of Buffalo. What they do is ship it from
>Toronto to Buffalo and you do the pickup there. You also get hit for the
>shipping. If you are going to do a Buffalo pickup you may as well go the
>extra 2 hours to Toronto and do some drooling at the store. It is just
>under 3 hours each way for me. Canadians all drive like they are flying
>low :-).
>
>The Okume ply that I bought was made in Israel from African wood and for
>some reason was duty free into the US as long as it was for personal
>use. You can also get back the 15% VAT.
>
>Dave
>N36078 '41 BC-12-65
Dave,
Thanks for the clarification. I'll be needing some wood from them a little
later, probably next summer. Don't know if I'll drive up or let them ship
it - it's a 'fur piece' from here to there, even if I drove like a Canadian
the whole way :).
Merry Christmas. Hope to see you at Barber this summer.
Kip
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: BS 1088 - Noah's |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DJ Vegh" <djv@imagedv.com>
I got all my 1/8 and 1/4 ply at Noah's. excellent quality and shipping
was very fast and surprisingly cheap to Arizona. I think 4 4x8 sheets were
around $50 to ship.
here's the link
http://noahsmarine.com/United_States/Plywoods-us/plywoods-us.html
DJ Vegh
N74DV
Mesa, AZ
www.imagedv.com/aircamper
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| Subject: | Re: capstrip and Gusset plates |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave rowe <rowed044@shaw.ca>
Demel Aircraft in BC sells aircraft grade ply as thin as 1mm, and Yellow
cedar is perfect for the wing ribs, I can mill enough 1/2 X 1/4 for all
the ribs in a day or two, cost here on Vancouver Island is about $3.00
per board ft.
William Rives Young wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "William Rives Young" <wry22@drexel.edu>
>
> I am getting ready to try and start making my wing ribs again. Last time school
interfered. I am having trouble finding plywood thin enough to make gusset
plates. The plans call for 1/16 inch plates and nobody sells plywood that tin.
I am also having trouble finding Douglas fir to make the caps strips. I have
tried home depot and Lowe's and neither carry Douglas fir. The reason that
I haven't ordered spruce from aircraft spruce or wicks is because I will only
be able to afford to do this a little at a time until I am out of college.
Any suggestions?
>
> Will
>
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