---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/04/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. PM - Don't need no stinkin shelf (At7000ft@aol.com) 2. PM - Cabane Strut Length (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ - From: At7000ft@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don't need no stinkin shelf I am building a long fuselage Piet with a corvair engine and therefore don't believe I need the shelf in the upper front of the fuselage. I plan on using a full height firewall extending above the top longerons like Mike Cuy's in his video. Question is how to finish off the upper front of the fuselage. I am assuming I can just add triangular gussets to the inside top corners (like those shown on the plans at the bottom corners) and a horizontal cross brace (maybe 1" x 3/4") between the 2 (#1) front vertical struts just under the top inside motor mount brackets. Anyone see any problems with this? Thanks Rick Holland ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ - From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane Strut Length --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Rcaprd@aol.com In a message dated 12/31/03 5:36:52 PM Central Standard Time, wbeevans@verizon.net writes: << Jm, Mine are to plans. Guess if I had to do it over again, would have made them longer. Corky, yours are longer , aren't they. How does that work out? Know lots of guys made them longer. Can all respond? walt evans NX140DL I know, I myself couldn't get in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Markle To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: climbing in (the real story) How do the cabane lengths compare the the plans? I hope your's are shorter....this doesn't look good..... :-) jm >> My cabane struts are 2" longer than plans. I have yet to install the slanted struts, so I still have the 'X' cables on the right side of the front pit. Ya just wanna take a ride bad enough, and you'll get in. At 6', 210 lbs, I can get in, so I might not even go with the slanted struts. Chuck Gantzer NX770CG